(18 now actually)
It’s 2011 all over again
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_PlayStation_Network_outage
PSN Is Still Down After 14 Hours And No One Knows Why
Submitted 4 weeks ago by simple@lemm.ee to games@lemmy.world
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AFreeLarryHoover@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
essteeyou@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Last night I thought “this happened a few years ago, too, and we got free games as an apology” and now you tell me it was 14 YEARS ago!?
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Yes, and I’m also telling you we’ll get no free games this time. Business is more of a “fuck you” attitude in 2025.
BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 4 weeks ago
B…but 2011 was like 6years ago?? No?
Anivia@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
It has happened more often than that. The one in 2011 was the biggest outage, but PSN also got DDOSed by lizard squad a couple years after the 2011 outage
Harvey656@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Your making me feel old… I remember when it happened. I was so missed I couldn’t play call of duty.
tonyn@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
You’re making ME feel old. I remember having to go over my friend’s house to play multiplayer.
Anivia@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
There was also a big outage on 2014 when Sony got DDOSed by Lizardsquad. So maybe you are remembering that one and don’t need to feel quite so old
simple@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
I remember being so happy that outage happened because they gave away free games. That’s how I got to play LittleBigPlanet for the first time.
bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 weeks ago
They gave out Wipeout and infamous for free out of that, I got a lot of play time out of those two games.
meowmeowbeanz@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Sony’s uptime delusions crumbling faster than a PSN auth server. Fourteen hours of radio silence while charging for the privilege of digital serfdom? Masterstroke. Remember 2011’s month-long outage? At least we got free games as consolation—now they’ll just send thoughts and prayers via shareholder memos.
”Premium service” my ass. Paywalls for multiplayer, cloud saves held hostage, and a walled garden rotting from neglect. But hey, keep funding Zuck’s yacht repairs while your PS5 gathers dust. The 2011 apology tour is dead—2025’s mantra is ”fuck you, pay more.”
Reboot the servers, Jim. Or just admit the cloud was a screensaver all along.
derpgon@programming.dev 4 weeks ago
The cloud is just someone else’s computer.
Doomsider@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
You just made a Techbro angry somewhere in the world.
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
They sent thoughts and prayers.
5 days of PSN for free.
lol
ech@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
If only there we a way to connect to a network without an intermediary like PSN. Damn shame that it’s impossible.
P1nkman@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I think ARPANET will have something like this once they got it working
Pika@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
This doesn’t bode well.
The last time this happened was when Anonymous hacked PSN and took them down for a month after they went after Geohotz(cant remember the spelling) for jailbreaking/reverse engineering the ps3.
Radio silence like before as well. I hope they weren’t breached again.
technomad@slrpnk.net 4 weeks ago
Oh yeah, I remember that now!
Kite@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
I’ve never thought about it before, but I wonder if the companies with games containing microtransactions can ask PSN for compensation for lost income due to long outages.
benignintervention@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I knew a guy who did this with Comcast for every minute his Internet was out. He’d call them every day for weeks until they cut him an account credit
nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 4 weeks ago
When I worked at a web host, we had people like that. Being support sucked. Like, yes, it sucks that your e-commerce site that uses horrifically outdated software is offline but, we don’t offer quad nines, especially not on a $35/year shared hosting plan. And, honestly Drew, your site gets single-digit visits per month and sells erotica based upon the premise of Edgar Allen Poe being transported to 1990s Brooklyn and working as an apartment building super. At best, you’re breaking even on that hosting bill.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
It is basically just a web form these days (just google “xfinity outage” or whatever).
They cut you off after a certain number of outages per quarter. And they decide how much money you get per outage. So if your next door neighbor has never reported an outage and you report every single one, they’ll get more for that one report.
toynbee@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I tried this in the first place I lived at where I paid for my own internet, which was Comcast at the time.
They said (paraphrasing because it was a long time ago) their contract specified they were not responsible for any outages, nor any income lost due to same. I don’t know if that’s true, but I was young and naive and accepted it at face value.
randon31415@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Musk is currently reviewing it for DEI terms. Also Trump just fired the Sony board and declared himself president of Sony.
themurphy@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
What?
ShepherdPie@midwest.social 4 weeks ago
That’s your body suffering from whiplash as we’re once again back in the era where you never know whether someone is telling the truth or not when they make a wild claim about the president like that.
Stamau123@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
a play on Trump purging the Kennedy Center and installing himself as chief
slaacaa@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Not my president! 😡
Tap for spoiler
(I live in Germany)
bokherif@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Inbefore magats: DEFUND DEFUND DEFUND
Will8250@lemmings.world 4 weeks ago
As of about an hour ago, it is back up
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 4 weeks ago
Damn reading the impact this has is some combination of hilarious and horrifying to see people bought into a service like this. If it was free or simply a monthly sub like Netflix I could kinda understand. But a sub to use things you also had to buy? Fuck that.
flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Not sure if this is still the case, but with Steam if you didn’t put the client into “offline mode” ahead of time the client wouldn’t open, let alone launch a game once the connection was lost.
Nibodhika@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
At least in 2013 when I started using Steam more seriously if your connection dropped it would prompt you asking if you wanted to switch to offline mode. And I know this because I had Steam on a laptop that I carried in my bag hibernating and I didn’t had internet in some places I went to. So that has been fixed for over a decade.
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
Pretty sure they did a while ago
Especially with the stream deck, you’re not going to have Internet available everywhere
emax_gomax@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Tbf all platforms have this. Steams not much better. Neither is the Xbox ecosystem. We truly are in the worst timeline.
CaptSpify@lemmy.today 4 weeks ago
GoG checking in with no arbitrary server requirements! Why reward companies for treating you badly?
When companies treat me like a sucker, I move on to companies that don’t.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 4 weeks ago
The difference is if steam goes down I might not be able to play a few games. If xbox (what is their service?) goes down you can’t play any games.
kryllic@programming.dev 4 weeks ago
Someone unplugged the Mac mini
Tronn4@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
DOSE, dept of Sony efficiency
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
Oh they upgraded from a raspberry pi?
ProIsh@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Finally picked up kingdom come 2 on my ps5 just to dust it off after not playing for years and this is my weekend. Well played Sony, well played
MintyFresh@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I was looking at that game. Looks really cool. I’m interested to see a more historically based rpg game without mages and whatnot. I think it’s based on some section of polish history?
AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It’s the sequel to the first one, and historical accuracy was like, at the center of of that one. Your character starts off the game not knowing how to read, because in medieval Europe, literacy was not widespread and the son of a blacksmith certainly wouldn’t know how to read, so books you pick up in the game are total gibberish until you learn to read.
frigidaphelion@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It’s Bohemia so like modern day Czech Republic
WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
That’s a single player game. You need to be online to play it?
ProIsh@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It’s like the anti pirating software. Drm? Can’t tell if I own it or not.
teft@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’ve been playing so much kingdom come deliverance 2 that I didn’t even notice PSN being down.
If you like RPGs try it.
TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I fell off 1. Is 2 an improvement to the charming eurojank?
teft@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I never played the first one. I just watched a story recap.
The gameplay isn’t janky just brutally difficult and unforgiving. It goes for realism above all. I’m really liking it but I’m only maybe halfway through the story.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 4 weeks ago
Isn’t it linear story based though? I prefer open ended, been playing a lot of bannerlord recently
A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Bungie devs who were desperately hoping for a good Heresy dungeon launch: …I’m getting fired aren’t I
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
“Did you remember to plug the server back in after vacuuming the server room?”
“Shit.” "Honey, gotta make a quick jump at the office! "
watson387@sopuli.xyz 4 weeks ago
It annoys me that you can’t even look at your trophies for games when PSN is down…
Olap@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Spoilers: it’s the weekend and some hard drive is full. Japanese uptake of the cloud was lagging, and I fully anticipate that PSN isn’t utilising any big cloud providers scalabaility and we’re now waiting on Jim, who is on a long weekend (and well earnt!) to reboot/add more storage/logrotate
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I know why, but I’ll never tell.
Maiq@lemy.lol 4 weeks ago
What is it, dragons?
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 4 weeks ago
I was just able to get into Helldivers II on my PS5, so it’s either coming back, or it’s going to real shit
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Boy, it sure is a good thing that Sony charges a subscription fee for any and all network multiplayer traffic.
dormedas@lemmy.dormedas.com 4 weeks ago
Looks like PlayStation’s Auth servers are down among everything else. Even if multiplayer was free, I don’t see how modern games would function without that service running. Who am I playing against? What’s their name? How did I get my account progress?
Just about everything multiplayer nowadays relies on account / Auth services. Especially in console.
Godort@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Sure, but if it were free it’s a “you get what you pay for” situation. People are a lot more forgiving when they aren’t personally losing money.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
You used to be able to type in an IP address whether or not the official server is running. Sometimes you still can, but seeing as Baldur’s Gate 3 has LAN and direct IP connection on PC but not on PlayStation, it sure seems like Sony is asking them to specifically remove the feature if they wanted it in the first place.
Then beyond that, you’ve got a mismatch behind what your money is actually for. It used to be for paying for their servers, but you often don’t even connect to Sony’s servers anymore. Plenty of games behind that same paywall have their own servers, like Call of Duty for instance, but Call of Duty’s multiplayer is behind the same paywall as Helldivers 2, which is running servers on Sony’s dime. And beyond that…the reason multiplayer is free on PC is because your purchases are funding them. The majority of game sales on consoles are now digital, just like Steam, and that is a trend that’s accelerating. Meanwhile, the subscription fee is probably one of a multitude of reasons that people are seeing that free online play on PC and leaving consoles.
herrvogel@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Nobody’s gonna dispute the necessity of some sort of server somewhere in the mix. But does it need to be something like PSN? A central 3rd party service that most games only use because they’re forced to?
0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Free your mind! There is another way. Video game servers should be open-source, and the games should permit you to choose a custom server. This way, games can survive the bankruptcy of their creators’ companies.
billwashere@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
And 99% of the games I “own”. So much for a relaxing Saturday playing games. Fuck you Sony.
TaiCrunch@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Really? We had a family game night last night with the purchased digital edition of Until Dawn just fine.
SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Boy, it sure is a good thing that Sony backed off charging a subscription fee for single player PC games
ech@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
To be clear, that was not a thing. Just the PSN account doesn’t require payment. The subscription is for playing in MP and (I think) access to online media like yt.
ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz 4 weeks ago
Subscription fee? Is this true? Do they have a PC Game Pass service now?
garretble@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Unless the game has its own subscription, like Final Fantasy XIV.
Unless that has changed over the years. I’m not sure.