Gimme some evidence that anyone at all in the government is pushing back on Trump with any effectiveness at all. Someone throw me a bone here. 😬

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I’m starting to really consider the whole “reality is a simulation” angle, and whoever is running the game has put in a cheat code. (not really really, but more than I ever have before)

It’s like a shitty unrealistic movie plot has unfolded over the past decade. And every time it looks like maybe things are heading back on track, BOOM, we get another event that just turns us right back on the track to crazytown.

I’m having a hard time coming up with anything I can cling to in the hopes that Project 2025 isn’t going to go exactly as planned down to the last detail.

How are we not going to become real-world Gilead (but with more racism)?

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SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
You are experiencing what they want you to experience in this situation: A state of shock.

This is “Shock and Awe.” It’s a blitz to make the enemy feel like the task to fight back is insurmountable and to give up before trying.

Shock and awe (technically known as rapid dominance) is a military strategy based on the use of overwhelming power and spectacular displays of force to paralyze the enemy’s perception of the battlefield and destroy their will to fight

This is not a military battle, but it is clear that Trump is *practicing rapid dominance. He is using the Project 2025 pre-written Executive Orders to execute rapid dominance over the US government and make us feel shocked, confused, and desperate.

Naomi Klein wrote The Shock Doctrine in response to the Iraq War, and this is the Shock Doctrine being used on the US citizenry to whip them into submission.

We must resist this shock. The feeling you have, that it is hopeless, that no one is pushing back, is exactly how they want you to feel.

Get involved in Mutual Aid. Give back to your local community. Check out of national politics, we can’t affect it anymore. Focus on building parallel systems (food banks, community gardens, community mesh-networks, community first aid) for people to rely on since we can no longer rely on the systems that Trump is actively trying to dismantle or twist to harm the American populace.

Losing hope right now means losing the long-term battle against this. Losing hope is what they intend to force you into, broken, submissive, no hope. Do not go silent into that good night.

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- octopus_ink@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Thanks, lots to think about there and just the sort of thing I needed.
  
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  - SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    You’re welcome. There’s lots of other real efforts, too. There’s been various successes at people preventing ICE from getting at people. I know a lot of people in /r/Seattle were doing the legwork of communications to help people avoid getting snared by ICE. The West coast will be a hold out. A school in Chicago also successfully repelled ICE agents from entering the school. Look for the helpers, they won’t be from the government anymore, they will be people like you and me.
    
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- crusa187@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Naomi is brilliant and you’re right, her book perfectly describes what is happening to us right now. Thanks for elevating it into the conversation!
  
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- Azteh@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I agree with all except the “Check out of national politics” part. You cant decide who is President anymore, but you should still keep an eye on what Nation laws they may pass or should be prevented from passing
  
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- Twig@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  There is !keeptrack@lemmy.world to help keep track of all these things
  
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- bunkyprewster@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Have to be honest, the shock is working on me.
  
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- Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Yes, OP’s asking where they are.
  
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- in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Yeah grow a food coop for the first band of fascist thugs that show up with guns. We need to arm ourselves and train just as much as decentralize our food. If you think they’ll go away peacefully and leave our gardens alone you’re horribly naive.
  
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- lightrush@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Thank you! 🙏
  
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- tryagain@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I literally went and bought her audiobook after reading this post A few chapters in and it’s hard to believe it was written 20 years ago and not, like, last week.
  
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- Strayonaise@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  A best of post right here, thank you for the run down
  
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billiam0202@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
The Inspector Generals that Trump is trying to fire basically told him to fuck off.

Under a law passed in 2022 (you know, when the Dems were doing nothing 🙄) the president has to give Congress 1) 30 days notice of firing an IG and 2) enumerate the reasons why that IG was being fired. The second any reason is given to Congress these people are going to sue for wrongful termination since it’s blatantly obvious to everyone Trump is trying to rid the government of anyone who could hold him accountable.

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- PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  What is the consequence of not following these rules?
  
  If the only consequence is a lawsuit he doesn’t have to pay personally, then I don’t think he cares.
  
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  - NvrLmp@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I suppose if the firings are regarded as “official acts,” the courts will support POTUS on this one.
    
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  - CileTheSane@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Currently the consequence is they aren’t accepting the termination of their enjoyment and aren’t leaving.
    
    If the consequence of not following the rules means it doesn’t get enforced then he cares very much.
    
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- octopus_ink@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Oh yeah I saw that headline when I got up this morning and it made me happy to see. But talk me down the tree a little further if you can.
  
  In the current state I don’t see how it matters. I’m glad they did it. I appreciate the gesture, and I think it was an important one. But I feel like were all still pretending that laws and norms matter when clearly they no longer do for Trump and anyone under him.
  
  What exactly stops him from having these people forcibly removed and/or their access to government resources cut, their paychecks held, their clearances revoked, etc? Who is in charge of those things that can stand up to that?
  
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  - billiam0202@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    What exactly stops him from having these people forcibly removed and/or their access to government resources cut, their paychecks held, their clearances revoked, etc? Who is in charge of those things that can stand up to that?
    
    What stops him is people willing to ignore obviously illegal demands, and the more people that stand up to him the more people will be encouraged to do the same. Now, if Trump openly defies court orders and the executive branch has enough sycophants in it that they’re willing to help him, then it becomes up to us to solve that problem.
    
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  - CileTheSane@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    What exactly stops him from having these people forcibly removed and/or their access to government resources cut, their paychecks held, their clearances revoked, etc? Who is in charge of those things that can stand up to that?
    
    Trump doesn’t directly do any of those things, he would have to order other people to do so, and the risk of doing so is that if he encounters more resistance people start to notice that the emperor has no clothes.
    
    The more people resist the more it encourages others to do the same. The president is not a king that can dictate commands, and the more people stop obeying the more Trump runs into those protections that stop him being a tyrant.
    
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  - RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    My concern as well. Trump really doesn’t seem to give a damn this go-around. There were people in place that hit the brakes on him last time, but this time nobody’s doing shit.
    
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eran_morad@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
There’s the Reagan-appointed federal judge who near instantaneously ruled that trump’s birthright citizenship EO was unconstitutional and expressed disbelief that anyone recognized by the Bar Association would bring such a lawsuit.

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- crusa187@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I don’t think they expect this one to hold water, but it does serve as an excellent distraction from all the other nefarious shit coming down the pipe. Don’t lose sight of that other stuff - especially attempts to liquidate the treasury into $doge, $trump, or any other shit coin. That is the monumental heist they’re gunning for, make no mistake.
  
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  - Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    It’ll be like Roe. Where they lose at every level because it’s obvious until they get to SCOTUS. Who will decide in the GOP’s favor based on the Papal Bull of 462.
    
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- argueswithidiots@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  He only issued a TRO, though. I am unfortunately confident they will find a way around this.
  
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- octopus_ink@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Thank you this is what I’m talking about! (Holding my breath to see if he’s somehow overridden or disbarred.)
  
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That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
It’s the rich buying off both major political parties in the US. One is paid to implement a fascist oligarchy. The other is paid to pump the breaks on the fascist oligarchy when the population freaks out.

In both cases, political bribery has run amok and unchecked. Neither party is beholden to the will of the people. Low voter turnout means Republicans and oligarchy wins. High voter turnout means Democrats and the same oligarchy wins.

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- ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  The world could really do with a few more Luigis.
  
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djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Not a single soul in the government is going to help or save you. I’m sorry you’re only realizing this now, but the U.S. government has never been your friend or given a shit about you. It was captured by corporate forces at least 20 years ago, and set down this path to fascism over 40 years ago by Reagan. At this point, you will have to be one of the ones to resist, and you should reach out to local organizations to resist with them.

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- marcos@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Can the US government just fire anybody they want for whatever reason? (I’ve seen lots of things implying they can, but I’ve never seen anything stating it clearly.)
  
  Because if that’s the case, yeah, nobody there will help. You’ll just see a lot of people exiting it.
  
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  - DunkinCoder@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Not really. The goal aside from probationary employees is to make the workforce miserable so they quit and starve itself in the process. RTOs (especially for those hired remotely, say states away), is one example.
    
    “Hey the government is even more inefficient, let’s fire all the low performers.” - To the employee left doing 5x usual workload at 50% efficiency.
    
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  - Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    Can the US government just fire anybody they want for whatever reason?
    
    Only when a Republican is in office. When a Democrat is in office, we have to keep DeJoy running the post office.
    
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  - echolalia@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    The first day of his inaguration, Trump put forth an executive order that will attempt to make all federal employees Schedule F, basically, the same protections as a political appointee instead of a civil servant. This will make them basically at will employees.
    
    DunkinCoder is correct they are also making it really awful to work for the federal government with RTO and freezing of funding. And the hiring freeze. But it’s not the complete picture, its actually much worse.
    
    There will be court cases with federal employees trying to keep their jobs. I suspect they will fail, due to how the courts are republican controlled right now. The firings haven’t started yet. Expect them soon.
    
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  - earphone843@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Who’s going to stop them?
    
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Snowclone@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Some reporting is saying impeachment is being floated, suing the president has been a matter of course since Obama took office and hasn’t stopped since, he’s already issuing orders that are blatant illegal and clearly violate the constitution. There are a lot of openings to fight back right now. Is anyone? Idk.

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- DesertHermit@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I doubt this to the point I would bet money against it if I could.
  
  Did you not see that a proposal to amend the constitution for 3 terms was ACTUALLY proposed by a Congressperson from TN?
  
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  - PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    The republicans do not have enough of a majority in either house to get that through.
    
    I sincerely doubt they are going to convince a third of the Dems to support it either
    
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- digdilem@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I’m beginning to think this term is more about Vance more than Trump. At least, that’s the plan by those behind Trump.
  
  Let Trump go mad and do everything evil at a hundred miles an hour, which is what’s underway. Create utter chaos and make it impossible for anyone to draw breath and structure a defence. Then when the country finally pushes back (Maybe after about year) and he’s impeached, slip in JD Vance as a more moderate leader and everyone will be so grateful the Republicans secure several terms by turning against and blaming everything on Trump.
  
  I could be wrong. Anyone making predictions in this chaos is guessing.
  
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- xenomor@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Are you un-ironically suggesting that impeachment is actually a viable check on a US president?
  
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jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

– ~~The Gospel According to Matthew~~ Liberal Talking Points

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- tronx4002@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  There are trumpers that read the bible. I always wonder what goes through tier heads when they read the teachings of Jesus.
  
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  - gil2455526@lemmy.eco.br ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    In verse 40, “brothers and sisters of mine”, they think it means white, middle class, cisgender, heterosexual, neurotypical, conservative people.
    
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  - tomenzgg@midwest.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    They really love using
    
    Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me
    
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Prime_Minister_Keyes@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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nothingcorporate@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I hate white Jesus

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- Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  And I hate flappy lipped, diaper-wearing, orange peel wannabe Jesus.
  
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- AgentOrangesicle@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Yeah, white Jesus is kinda a dick. We should deport him.
  
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- cantankerous_cashew@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Indeed. Western portrayals of Jesus are likely historically inaccurate, it’s more probable that he was dark skinned
  
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uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I want to add a running theme in GRRM’s A Song of Ice and Fire is that doing gross and inhumane things may horrify us in the moment and make us feel overwhelmed but tends to turn around on those who would resort to such methods despite Tyrion Lannister’s opinion that those method are not to be excluded from all options considered.

The most well known example in the series was the Red Wedding, the marriage of Edmure Tully, Roslin Frey, which was followed by the massacre of Rob and Catelyn Stark and many others, while under the protection of the tradition of hospitality. If we ignore the GoT Season 8 revenge by Arya Stark, reputation of fell deed figured in House Frey losing allies and trade, and Frey casualties far greater than those inflicted on Stark and its allies.

IRL, Trump’s heavy-handed response to the George Floyd protests in 2020 only doubled the protest sizes in the following days. Notoriously after Putin-style LGMs (unmarked uniformed men in military gear abducting citizens without due process) and brutal police action at the ICE building resulted in the moms joining the protests and then the dads (who brought their wireless leaf blowers).

An example that will be applicable to the US is the rise of the French Résistance during the German occupation of France. Despite efforts by German administrators to advice soldiers to stay polite, they couldn’t help themselves and were brutal to the French civilians. The people started engaging in light direct action, tearing down or defacing German propaganda, slashing tires, cutting phone lines, until they found each other and organized. Within two years, they were a formidable fighting force.

Yes, the find out portion of the upcoming era is going to be harsh. People who need services and supplies will not get them. Police will be cruel to folks at the border, and may even hunt down migrants and Trans folks like the SS after Jews. It will be fucking scary, but it will turn bystanders into resistance sympathists, sympathists into activists and activists into militants. And yes, it appears police just can’t help themselves but be brutal, and the resistance will not only feel justified in cutting them down, but will eventually hunt them to the ends of the earth to assure they see tribunal, even when the last guard and bureaucrat is ninety.

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- tryagain@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Plenty of despots around the world stayed in power for decades and died peacefully in their beds. Tyranny as a means of maintaining power is a “solved problem” and Americans are no smarter or more sophisticated than the citizens of North Korea, Cameroon, Congo or Uganda. Or Spain or Portugal for that matter.
  
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  - uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Yes. And if we go down that path, not only will millions perish in the purges, but then China will take us economically, and may be the Allies to our Axis.
    
    And much like Germany, the brain drain and infighting at the top ranks will slow them down and become an exploitable weakness.
    
    If we’re not careful, we’ll organize a rebellion and overthrow the Trump regime only to have it replaced with another despot, and then (as the pattern goes) another and another and another until everyone knows someone who’s perished in the fighting. And that’s no guarantee of a democracy.
    
    It’s one of the reasons I’ve advocated we do something that (AFAIK) we’ve never tried before, and create a constitution before we try to overthrow the government. Make it public; get legal experts to pick at it for loopholes and exploits to close until it’s ironclad. And then, unlike the constitutional framers of the US, don’t let the fighting leaders take place as administrative officials.
    
    But I’m a novice at history and sociopolitical studies. Maybe we are doomed to a century of tyranny and all we have wrought will burn in fire. But I know instances have occurred in which something different happened, via non-violent resistance, even.
    
    At this point get involved with your mutual aid orgs and community orgs. The more of us that organize to resist, the more likely it will actually succeed.
    
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  - rayyy@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    One BIG thing to consider is that in other countries citizens weren’t nearly as well armed as the U.S.
    
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spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Project 2025 won’t go exactly as planned, but at least half of it will and the rest will sow enough discord during the attempt to run the country into the ground. We will most likely still be the most powerful nation unless we split, just because of the massive population and resources available.

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- trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  There are two countries on this planet with more than three times you population and enough resources to take over your position of most powerful nation if they stop fucking around and you guys screw up badly enough.
  
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  - TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    China? Maybe. India? Fucking no. We’re not even going to hit middle income trap like China. We’re going to remain underdeveloped country for the foreseeable future.
    
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Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
You can’t push back against the person who doesn’t care. These “trump” things aren’t likely coming from trump. All he wants is attention. So as long as someone spins an idea to him that will get him attention, he will sign it. He hasn’t had an original idea in decades. So you won’t see push back in public much. It will happen between the people behind the scenes.

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- Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  This is something people should point out more often. For me, in terms of policies, the real president are Vought and Peter Thiel. Two very dangerous men because unlike Trump, they are very smart and actual ideologues. The one foil they have is that their ideologies are only compatible so long as they have a common enemy in liberals. If they managed to beat the liberals they would inevitably have to fight one another for ultimate control over the ideological direction of the party (at this point in my hypothetical future perhaps the only party in America)
  
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  - Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    The next election will be very interesting.
    If trump is still functional (in the goes to rallies for a successor sense), will there be someone he can or will transfer his popularity to. I kind of doubt it. Anyone able to take on that popularity is a threat to him. Maybe he would do it for one of his kids, because he might think he could control them, but I still doubt it. So he might submarine his own party.
    
    That would open the door for another boring centrist from the democrats that “plays ball” with the party elites.
    
    If trump is too feeble to do any rallies and such. That would allow a trump like replacement to pick up the republican torch. This would push the dems toward needing a progressive trump like populist to try to win. The dem “party” (the people behind the scenes) would fight that. Just like they did when Bernie was up against Hillary. And could end up handing it to the new trump like person. This would be the path to your future one party system.
    
    The third scenario would have trump die in office somehow. Vance would “play ball” with the rep party elite in a heartbeat. And he is more like a pre-trump politician. We saw that in the vp debate. But the party elite would probably back him. It could end up with the return of the pre trump days with boring poloticians who just do what the party elite say, with the party elite m9ving back into the shadows.
    
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BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Buy a gun and practice marksmanship, you limp-wrist coward. Complain online while doing nothing and watch the world burn or do what I do and join an LGBTQ marksmanship club

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- rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  How fucking dare you demand that people casually buy guns. They are a massive responsibility and require total vigilance of all safety rules at all times when being handled or carried. Get armed, but only if you’re willing to handle the responsibility. Not everyone can own a gun, it’s always best to advocate for educated self defense with an emphasis on de-escalation.
  
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- JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Using a slur and telling someone to join an LGBT group is certainly a choice.
  
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  - Godric@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Join a LGBT+ friendly group, don’t be a a fuckin fairy about it.
    
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  - Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Is “limp-wrist coward” a slur? Seems more like an insult of someone’s habits.
    
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SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I dunno, man, it just feels like the ol’ fascist/totalitarian tactic of flooding the zone with shit until people get exhausted from fighting it has worked, people are exhausted, and there’s this energy of elated resignation, like, we can’t swim upstream anymore, so fuck it, riding the current is kind of fun (and the inevitable waterfall is out of sight and out of mind for the moment).

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- IzzyJ@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Thats all fine and well until youre shot on the front lines or happen to be one of the minorities being drowned
  
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ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I don’t have an article about it on hand, but there was one judge who blocked Trump’s attempt to remove birthright citizenship.

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- trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I don’t know if its different in the US, but over here a judge would not be considered “in the government”.
  
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  - LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Yeah we have three branches of government.
    
    Executive Judicial Legislative
    
    The President heads the executive branch. The Legislative branch is split into the Senate (2 representatives from every state) and Congress (number of representatives depicted by state population size). (The Vice President actually sits as the head of the Senate). The Leader of the House (Congress) is third in line for the presidency. The judicial branch is mostly known to be the Supreme Court but also contains the Federal Judicial Center.
    
    Basically. For a law to exist you have to get a Majority vote from Congress and the Senate. Then the president signs it into law, or can Veto it. (If Congress has 2/3 vote the president veto would be overwrote). Same is required to amend the constitution itself (2/3)
    
    Also if the people don’t feel representatives have gotten their issue to the floor there are petitions. If a petition gets a lot of signatures it requires a formal response by the legislature. During the Obama administration he opened a website called We The People that allowed signatures for petitions and if 100,000 signatures were garnered it was required to get a formal response. This website was shut down during the first Trump administration in 2018.
    
    So the Judicial branches job is to review any bill being signed into law and ensure it is not in conflict with previous laws, or deemed “unconditional” which would block the law and send it back to the legislature requiring them to acquire a 2/3 vote instead of just a majority.
    
    The legislative branch also holds the power to oust the President if they overstep. Essentially if over 50% of Congress believes the president should be removed they can impeach him. Which sends it to the Senate. (Most every president has removed themselves upon a majority of Congress but they aren’t required to yet). When it goes to the Senate they hold a trial. A 2/3 vote of the Senate implements the presidents removal. (The Republicans in the Senate did not vote to remove Trump, and thus they never had 2/3s of the vote and he refused to step down.). John Tyler and Richard Nixon both resigned before the Senate voted.
    
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  - stankmut@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    In the US, people consider any public sector job to be working in/for the government. Judges, Legislators, the president, TSA security, Park Rangers, Cops, Clerks at the driver’s license office, etc. would all be considered government roles. Sometimes you need to clarify if you mean federal government or state government.
    
    The president, his staff, and his political appointees are called the administration.
    
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IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I AM the one who knocks ~out~ ~your~ ~nazi~ ~face~ ~to~ ~the~ ~pavement~

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cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Most of the safeguards were removed in trump’s previous term, and now the way’s open.

Good luck.

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maplebar@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

I’m starting to really consider the whole “reality is a simulation” angle, and whoever is running the game has put in a cheat code. (not really really, but more than I ever have before)

🙄

I have some reeeeeeal bad news for you: the American voters handed Trump and the Republicans not just 1, not 2, but ALL 3 fucking branches of government, on top of a media in which at least 33% is in his fucking pocket and at least another 33% is too stupid to see through his bullshit.

I’m not sure what kind of push back you’re expecting or who you’re expecting it from exactly, but to whatever extent there IS push back it’s gonna be 90% performative gesturing and hand-wringing until at least 2026. And that’s the best case where people are smart enough to vote in their best interest, which knowing how fucking stupid you all are, I’m not gonna hold my breath.

GLHF.

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jaybone@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
MAGA ICE Jesus no hablo ingles

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PanArab@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
As effective as they were in pushing Biden left

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dx1@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
If it makes you feel any better, the reality of Biden and Harris being equally complicit in genocide as Trump reveals that the same people were in charge under the last Democrat administrations as well.

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Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
When Johnstons lips met trumps ass he pushed back real hard.

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MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
All I’ll say is you’re not taking the “reality is a simulation” angle far enough, because you still believe that there is some sort of outcome that is both objectively good AND long term stable. But the only such outcome is that the simulation goes on, with or without you.

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Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I actually have more hope. Every fascist regime ultimately fell and outside of the billionaire controlled media it will be difficult to burn the records.

The reality is that a two tiered justice system will always create a group of people who feel emboldened. The correct response is to document these people’s crimes, and stay mad. If the opportunity to hold them accountable comes, take it.

The democrats still aren’t taking this seriously because they will be among the last to be targeted directly. Their friends are still people like Netanyanhu who flout a similar multi tiered justice system.

Work toward building local governments who will push back and provide resources for people who need it.

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Death_to_cumskins@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Did you not see Obama and Trump joking around? If it was serious Obama wouldn’t be joking like that. He’d be busting heads.

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Shardikprime@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
The stun lock keeps on as planned

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nifty@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Can I ask a real question here? We know from being here on Lemmy that some people have a real hard-on for Marxism/Stalinism/Leninism. Why do these people think their pov is morally or ethically superior?

The whole DEI stuff seems a bit like a Trojan horse to sneak in Marxist propaganda. Forcing people to accept immigrants with different cultural pov in a democracy is dangerous because you can end up relinquishing your country to another country’s agenda.

Should people be more humane and considerate? Yes, fucking definitely. Should there be more regulations against some damaging effects of capitalism? Certainly.

Does that mean people want to give up the means of production? Absolutely not. Does that mean people want to live in a China-like situation where you cannot own the land your property is on? No.

Countries should be free to control immigration. That’s what sovereignty is. But the truth is simply this, all countries need immigrants, the natural competition created via the current state of capitalism demands this.

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TangledHyphae@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I mean Jesus did literally walk into temples and flip tables over and kick people out for bad behavior, so this isn’t far off.

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bunkyprewster@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Who is Mike Pineapple?

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BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
You are still on the acid trip, just ride it until it’s over. It’ll be more fun if you just let it do its thing.

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