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  • jBlight@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ah yes, ph.d intelligence, but the wisdom of a toddler.

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    • Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Why yes, you CAN put a tomatoes in your fruit salad. It is a fruit after all.

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      • Gork@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        By this logic I can finally add pizza to my salad!

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      • whereBeWaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        After all… why not? Why shouldn’t I not eat one small rock a day?

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    • shneancy@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      mmm, unironically sounds like me. According to my iq test i had PhD level intelligence at 18, and what am i doing at 24? unemployed, playing video games, and crying

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      • Noodle07@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s alright, you can keep going for a bit, I’m about to hit 30 playing video-games and crying

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      • blazeknave@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Wait until you’re 40 talking about that IQ test like the Al Bundy of brains

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    • cm0002@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      but the wisdom of a toddler.

      Sounds like an improvement to me lol

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    • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Book Smart Street Smart

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    • Wooki@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Wisdom implys it has intelligence, it does not. Its a word predictor.

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    • SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They’ll give it all the social interaction and wisdom scraped from YouTube clips.

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    • Mac@mander.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      PhD intelligence but in all the other subjects.

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  • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    PhD level intelligence? Sounds about right.

    Extremely narrow field of expertise ✔️ Misplaced confidence in its abilities outside its area of expertise ✔️ A mind filled with millions of things that have been read, and near zero from interactions with real people✔️ An obsession over how many words can get published over the quality and correctness of those words ✔️ A lack of social skills ✔️ A complete lack of familiarity of how things work in the real world ✔️

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    • repungnant_canary@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “Never have I been so offended by something I 100% agree with!”

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    • SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You just listed out the reasons I stopped at MSc! I’m all of those but only like half as much.

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  • kn0wmad1c@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Translation: GPT-5 will (most likely illegally) be fed academic papers that are currently behind a paywall

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    • pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I guess then we would be able to tell it to recite a paper for free and it may do it.

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      • A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Or hallucinate it, did you know that large ammounts of arsenic can cure cancer and the flu? According to my GPT it does!

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    • twice_twotimes@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I mean, GPT 3.5 consistently quotes my dissertation and conference papers back to me when I ask it anything related to my (extremely niche, but still) research interests. It’s definitely had access to plenty of publications for a while without managing to make any sense of them.

      Alternatively, and probably more likely, my papers are incoherent and it’s not GPT’s fault. If 8.0 gets tenure track maybe it will learn to ignore desperate ramblings of PhD students. Once 9.0 gets tenured though I assume it will only reference itself.

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  • fubarx@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    NFTs will keep their value forever…

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  • BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Will GPT-7 then be a burntout startup founder?

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    • homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ah. The synchronicity.

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  • HexesofVexes@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wow… They want to give AI even more mental illness and crippling imposter syndrome to make it an expert in one niche field?

    Sounds like primary school drop-out level thinking to me.

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    • Min7_f43sh_j5@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m planning to defend in October and I can say that getting a Ph.D. is potentially the least intelligent thing I’ve ever done.

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      • cabron_offsets@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Same, bruh. But I transitioned from biophysics to money & people management and shit’s pretty okay.

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    • SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I know three people that dropped out of primary and did quite well. They all ended up taking remedial studies later in life. Two were in trades and the other was a postie. All three were smart as fuck. Just because life gets in the way of going to school doesn’t mean a person is dumb, just uneducated.

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  • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It would have to actually have intelligence, period, for it to have PhD level intelligence. These things are not intelligent. They just throw everything at the wall and see what would stick.

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    • sukhmel@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You are correct, but there’s a larger problem with intelligence, we don’t have a practical definition, and we keep shifting the goalpost. Then there’s always a question of a philosophical zombie, if someone acts as a human and has a human body you won’t be able to tell apart if they don’t really have intelligence, so we only need to put LLM into humanlike body (it’s not so, but you get the point)

      reminds me of this, although the comic is on a different matter

      www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2014-11-25

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    • Spacehooks@reddthat.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I believe guardian of galaxy 3 did a take of that. Rocket was special because he innovated while the others just mimiced.

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  • jas0n@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    All aboard the hype train! We need to stop using the term “AI” for advanced auto complete. There is not even a shred of intelligence in this. I know many of the people here already know this, but how do we get this message to journalists?! The amount of hype being repeated by respectable journalists is sickening.

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    • Ashen44@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      people have been calling literal pathfinding algorithms in video games AI for decades. This is what AI is now and I think it’s going to be significantly easier to just accept this and clarify when talking about actual intelligence than trying to fight the already established language.

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      • jas0n@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        While you’re not wrong, I don’t ever recall people en masse believing a game AI was truly intelligent. Everyone was always aware of the truth. There just isn’t a great name for the computer players. I think it’s an important distinction here because people do believe ChatGPT is intelligent.

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    • dutchkimble@lemy.lol ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Too late, the journalists have been replaced by advanced auto completes already.

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      • Neon@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If you can be replaced by advanced autocomplete, you’re not really a “journalist”

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      • LeFantome@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Well, the “journalists” have not been replaced. But most of the content creating industry were not really that and have, as you say, started to be replaced.

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    • Zacryon@lemmy.wtf ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What is intelligence?

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      • embed_me@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        My organic neural network (brain) > yours (smooth brain)

        I jest

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    • thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I know many of the people here already know this, but how do we get this message to journalists?!

      Journalists have this information, but articles about it probably generate 10% of the clicks, shares and eyeballs->ad revenue that either the hype or the scaremongering does.

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  • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    PhD level of intelligence

    No it won’t. At some point, some AI will, but that point is still far away.

    I’m sure it’ll know how to string words and sentences together real nice, even to the point where it makes sense. It will still not have a clue what it’s talking about, it’ll still not understand basic concepts as “understanding” requires a whole lot more than just an advanced ability of pushing words together.

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  • Mango@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No it won’t.

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    • vane@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes it will

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      • Mango@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        NO IT WON’T

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  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    GPT-10 will do my mom

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    • LeFantome@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If she wants it to. At some point, all the chat bots are going to be given bodies. We all know it.

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  • Matriks404@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What a bunch of bullshit. I’ve asked ChatGPT recently to do a morphological analysis of some Native American language’s very simple sentences, and it gave absolute nonsense as an answer.

    And let’s be clear: It was an elementary linguistics task. Something that I did learn to do on my own by just doing a free course online.

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    • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Was it GPT 5?

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    • jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yesterday, I asked it to help me create a DAX measure for an Excel pivot table. The answers it gave were completely wrong. Each time, I would tell it the error that Excel was displaying and it would respond with “Sorry about that. You can’t use that function there for [x] reasons.”

      So it knows the reason why a combination of DAX functions won’t work but recommends them anyways. That’s real fucking useful.

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  • Prandom_returns@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    GPT-7 will have full-self-driving.
    But that’s next year.

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    • Tryptaminev@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You know the Chineese? They talk about this ChatPT 7. But we Americans. My uncle, very smart man. Smartest in every room except on Thanks Giving. I always had Thanks Giving and my Turkey, everyone loved my Turkey. He said we will soon have Chat 8 and the Chineese they know nothing like it.

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      • thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        TIL, Trump is just autocomplete.

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  • scytale@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Now it can not only tell you to eat rocks, but also what type rock would be best for your digestion.

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    • I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I prefer moon rocks, they’re a little meatier

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      • bronzle@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        One of these days Alice, bang, zoom, straight to the moon.

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  • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    A PhD makes a person knowledgeable, not intelligent. And GPT-4 was already extremely knowledgeable.

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    • nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s even better at seeming knowledgeable about things that it may or may not be knowledgeable about.

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    • LeFantome@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We agree 100% on that. I wonder if we agree on the implications.

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  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So copying everyone else’s work and rehashing it as your own is what makes a PhD level intelligence? (Sarcastic comments about post-grad work forthcoming, I’m sure)

    Unless AI is able to come up with original, testable, verifiable, repeatable previously unknown associations, facts, theories, etc. it’s not PhD level…using big words doesn’t count either.

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    • sukhmel@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think they had some specific metric in mind when they said this. But on the other hand, this is kind of a “you’re here” situation, AI can’t do that now, there’s no telling that they can’t make it do that later. Probably it would be a much more useful AI at that point, too

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    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I look forward to when AI can extrapolate, rather than interpolate.

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    • And009@lemmynsfw.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Precisely, AI is far away from creativity.

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  • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    PHD in what?

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  • kemsat@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Having a PhD doesn’t say you’re intelligent. It says you’re determined & hardworking.

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  • skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    the only thing this chatbot will be able to simulate is unreasonable persistence

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  • iAvicenna@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I like how they have no road map on how to achieve general artificial intelligence (apart from lets train LLMs with a gazillion parameters and the equivalent of yearly energy consumed by ten large countries) but yet pretend chatgpt 4 is only two steps away from it

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  • clearedtoland@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is it weird that I still want to go for my PhD despite all the feedback about the process? I don’t think I’ve ever met a PhD or candidate that’s enthusiastically said “do it!”

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  • zloubida@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The fact that I have a PhD while I knew that I wouldn’t use it quickly after I begun, thus loosing years of my life is the proof that I’m dumb as a rock. Fitting for ChatGPT.

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  • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Which GPT will take my job? I would imagine it’s only a year out, at the most.

    Then what? I leave my tech job and go find menial labor?

    Fuck our government for not laying down rules on this. I knew it would Hakeem, but goddamn…

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  • sassypablo@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oh… that’s the same person (in the image at least) who said “Yeah AI is going to take those creative jobs, but those jobs maybe shouldn’t have existed in the first place”.

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  • gjoel@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah? Well… GPT-7 will be a CEO on LinkedIn!

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  • plinky@hexbear.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    could chatbots approximate shareholder behavior? thonk

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  • TheFriar@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Would these even matter if it also randomly spits out nonsense they can’t figure out how to stop it from producing?

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  • Rubisco@slrpnk.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So when it helps out with a recipe, we won’t get a suggestion specifically for Elmer’s, but rather the IUPAC name for superglue?

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  • SonicDeathTaco@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I can’t imagine looking at the world and thinking we need more industry. Also, I know a lot of PhDs. Knowing a lot of things about a particular subject in know way correlates with intelligence.

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  • Etterra@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If AI was that capable then using human workers would eventually become cost prohibitive. If we’re still stuck having to work to live under a capitalist system by then, there’s gonna be serious problems. A post-labor economy doesn’t need to charge for even a modestly comfortable standard of living, and the overwhelming majority of people will go looking for things to do no matter how many politicians swear otherwise.

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