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  • OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I mean, this is how far our standard of living has fallen in the US.

    Like, back in the 80’s and 90’s it was pretty normal for a family to subsist on a single income, in a reasonably nice house, with all of their necessities taken care of. It was so normal that even a brainless loser like Homer could do it.

    Also because back then, kinda fat = automatic loser

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    • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Frank Grimes pointed out the insanity/luck of his living situation and your last part is true today “bumbling oaf” is still an archetype

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      • samus12345@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Ah, good ol’ Grimey (as he liked to be called).

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    • massive_bereavement@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That said, suburbia was built on borrowed money from the future , and the reason why most cities are broke.

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      • Kbin_space_program@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It has nothing to do with suburbia.

        It has everything to do with the politics of Thatcher and Reagan. Their policies of annihilating unions, human rights and tax cuts for the rich created this dystopian reality we now have.

        If we cut out the rich and restore what we used to have for rights and protections, we can try to save ourselves from extinction.

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    • bobburger@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      To be fair a nuclear operator can typically afford to support a family of 5 even today.

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      • Socsa@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        This. The show routinely makes fun of the fact that Homer is completely unqualified for his job and seems to keep it because he amuses Burns. They had a whole episode recently about how Homer got a new job over a nuclear engineering PhD because he Cyrano’d the interview via Fink. Meaning his job title is likely $200k+, though he likely makes less than that.

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    • ryathal@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The show quit caring about money because it’s not interesting. The early seasons have money as a constant issue. It’s just not that interesting to she them constantly needing money, so they just stopped.

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      • saruwatarikooji@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Except that idea was completely undone by Malcolm in the Middle… The Simpsons just didn’t do it right.

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    • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Like, back in the 80’s and 90’s it was pretty normal for a family to subsist on a single income, in a reasonably nice house, with all of their necessities taken care of.

      I wonder what “pretty normal” is, according to actual numbers

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      • Signtist@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I remember growing up in the 90’s, my classmates and I all thought that one of the other kids was a liar because he said he didn’t have a yard (he lived in an apartment). It didn’t make sense - everyone else in the class of 30+ kids lived in a house with a yard, so he must just be making stuff up. Obviously that’s anecdotal evidence, but still. It was weird for a kid not to live in a single-family home back then.

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      • EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You’d have to look at the size of the middle class back then, as that’s what the “American Dream” scenario is based on there, but as a kid born in 1990, I can say that when my dad was looking for apartments when he was around college age in the 60s, the rule was not to rent an apartment that cost more than 25% of your salary. By the time I was around that same age in the late 2000s/early 2010s, it was 50% of your salary. Now, it’s closer to 120% of your salary for those same apartments.

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    • itsnotits@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      back in the '80s* and '90s*

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      • OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        No, I meant 80-99 AD

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      • psud@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Many style manuals allow referring to decades with apostrophes before the s, and no apostrophes before the abbreviated year

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    • Hikermick@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It wasn’t normal

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      • Dagwood222@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Up until Reaganomics hit, ‘Middle Class’ was defined as one Union job supporting a family of four. In 1980, $1 million was still considered a vast fortune. By the time Bush Sr. left office, middle class was two jobs to keep the house going, and $1 million was what a rich guy paid for a party.

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  • xantoxis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    He’s not? There’s literally an episode about how Homer is so lucky in life that he drives a man insane.

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    • ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      And the man’s estranged bastard son!

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      • CorneliusTalmadge@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        He happened to like hookers.

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    • usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      In fairness, that entire episode was lampshade hanging

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      • state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        What is lampshade hanging?

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    • wise_pancake@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      He’s like Candid but doesn’t make you want to gauge your eyes out just to avoid reading the book, but it’s due in you philosophy class and you can’t afford to fail.

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      • oce@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        What’s the issue with reading Candid?

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    • fidodo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, I don’t think he’s portrayed as a loser, just as dumb. You don’t need to be smart to be successful in this world.

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  • intelisense@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Uhhhh… Homer has three kids, surely?

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    • anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why can’t I have no kids and three money??

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    • Death_Equity@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      According to the available tax information he has none kids, one of which is a Vietnam veteran.

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    • alquicksilver@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      C’mon, Marge, the dog doesn’t count as a kid.

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    • FfaerieOxide@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Uhhhh… Homer has three kids, surely?

      Only two of them, along with his wife, love him.

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      • MrGerrit@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Maggie hates his guts.

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    • DScratch@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      frinkiac.com/…/XPKvAup_vpZ7yNRZ41NQZcEc2vw=.gif

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  • Bytemeister@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wait, 2 kids? Which one died?

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    • MimicJar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Three! We have THREE kids Homer.

      Three noisy kids. Fish heads, fish heads.

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      • BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Dohhh, I have three kids and no money. Why can’t I have no kids and three money?!

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    • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Marge had a seventh trimester abortion this season.

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      • FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        To be fair, Maggie has been a baby for years. There was probably something wrong

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    • Speculater@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      One’s doing time for shooting someone.

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      • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        He was acquitted. Turns out the guy was just buried under a bunch of old newspapers. Luckily he was able to free himself using a vacuum cleaner and a baking soda rocket.

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  • CaptainHowdy@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My dudes… He has three kids.

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    • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Poor sod wishes he had three moneys instead

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    • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The dog doesn’t count as a kid!

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    • lseif@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      one is a baby so barely counts

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  • jonwyattphillips@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    OP lives above a bowling alley and bellow another bowling alley.

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    • ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why would you think that? I need an explanation for this joke.

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      • thedevisinthedetails@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s a reference to the episode with Frank Grimes. He’s a guy who does everything by the book and has little to show for it while Homer bumbles through life and gets everything. Frank is super envious of Homer. Excellent episode.

        simpsonswiki.com/wiki/Frank_Grimes

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      • jonwyattphillips@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        www.youtube.com/watch?v=axHoy0hnQy8

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  • PP_BOY_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Because he’s a little overweight, and in 1989, that was reason enough to laugh at someone.

    Plus, all of those were commonplace thirty years ago.

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    • Cruxifux@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Homer is like average North American weight now haha

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      • PP_BOY_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Please excuse the reddit image link

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    • Zehzin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      He’s also dumb, it’s why people like him in the first place.

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  • lseif@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    loser? no. stupid? yes.

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    • deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why do things that happen to stupid people keep happening to me?

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    • sadie_sorceress@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      And when I say stupid I mean stupid fresh

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  • blind3rdeye@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Isn’t Homer meant to be an illustration of privilege? Like, he’s pretty useless, but still gets essentially everything he wants.

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    • Syd@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Nah, it’s supposed to be funny and relatable. Times changed, not the cartoon.

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      • BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I watched an interview and they were talking about some song that gets sang where Bart can be anything he wants to be.

        I think the gist was they listed this litany of jobs that he could have when he grew up and twenty years later none of them were really viable anymore, kind of emphasizing how long the show has been on.

        Things have changed.

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    • randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If he wasn’t, he is now. They made a musical episode about it called “Goodbye Middle Class” where they illustrate this with him.

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    • psmgx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Is that the point behind Frank Grimes aka Grimey?

      “It doesn’t matter because I’m Homer Simpson”

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    • MalachaiConstant@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yep, and that’s still true even when he’s made to face the consequences of his actions. We expect so very little of him that we let him get away with pretty much anything as long as he loves his family.

      Hot damn if that’s not the picture of straight-white-male-between-18-and-50-years-old privilege.

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  • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I see your Homer Simpson and raise you Al Bundy, who works at a shoe store and raised a family of 4 on that salary

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  • sirico@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I live in a single room above a bowling alley and below another bowling alley

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  • the_rogue@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You missed how he is dumb as fuck and how all he have is by luck . As another person commented there is an episode in which a real hard working man gets mad how homer has everything even tho he does’nt deserve it and i agree he almost causes nuclear melt down atleast twice a day, abuses his son, ignores his daughter etc.etc.

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  • FiskFisk33@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    He is not, see the Frank Grimes episode

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  • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Hedonism and Wealth should not be your metric for evaluating people, anon.

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  • LEONHART@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    WELL, I DON’T NEED SAFETY GLOVES, BECAUSE I’M HOMER SIMP–

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  • Got_Bent@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m fifty one years old and just kinda wanna break down what I’ve seen in my life:

    My grandparents generation: Was able to buy housing, get healthcare, receive retirement. Note: They lived through the great depression, and categorically never spent any money that wasn’t necessary, even when they had several boatloads of it.

    My parents generation: Housing was achievable but not given (I remember a whole lot of single wides, apartments, and duplexes among the adults of my childhood). Healthcare was affordable. Retirement was promised but not delivered.

    My generation: Housing was achievable if you moved to the sticks and loved you some Jesus at the local Baptist Church, but not in the cities. We got a taste of healthcare twenty five years ago, but then yeah no. Retirement? Hahahahaha! We got 401(k)s forced in us, and they never materialized into dick. Many flatout vaporized when our marriages fizzled out.

    My kid’s generation. Seriously, just die in the street. You’ll get absolute fuck all nothing, and you’ll like it as the older generations blame you for our fuckups.

    My great contribution is that I’ll be able to leave my house free and clear of mortgage to my spawn when I check out. She can live in it, sell it, rent it, burn it to the ground. Whatever she wants, but damnit, I’m giving her the opportunity to do it, which most of her peers will never have.

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  • morphballganon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There are jobs that provide that kind of compensation, and it’s actually very realistic for an absolute moron to have one of them.

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  • squiblet@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    He’s portrayed as a loser due to being self-unaware and generally clueless.

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  • Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    He's not just a quintessential loser. He's a union man.

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  • remer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Nuclear plant salaries can be huge. Operators make $200k+ per year in the US.

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  • AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I am so smart

    I am so smart

    S-M-R-T

    I mean S-M-A-R-T

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  • eran_morad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    He’s no Al Bundy.

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  • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Because in the 90s that was like 30th percentile status, not 95th percentile status.

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  • MoonMelon@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The show was also conceived with Bart as the main character, with the world being from Bart’s perspective. As a kid Bart’s age of course your dad is dumb. Homer is the irl name of Matt Groenig’s dad.

    As the show progressed the writers ended up latching onto Homer more and he gradually became the core of the show. Also the characters “Flanderized” (literally!) more and more as time went on and he became more ridiculous. The Frank Grimes episode is pretty genius for capturing all this in a funny way.

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  • hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    …Fuck OP is right.

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