No war but the class war.
You’re just working for the billionaires when you post divisive nonsense like this.
103°F in Los Angeles all week
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TrackenDaKracken@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
solitaire404@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
True, but it is hard to ignore that the a certain class seems to be centralized/condensed to one generation specifically. And that generation also consistently and energetically supports them to the day they die.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I don’t think members of Green Peace switched to supporting it.
boonhet@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
People over 55 own 73% of the US, heavily outweighing billionaires. Boomers alone outweigh billionaires assets by nearly 10x. Any time you see BlackRock, Vanguard, etc as major shareholders of a company, that means it’s mostly boomers’ 401ks and pension funds.
Gen X might be the last generation to retire in the US, for millennials it’s starting to look unlikely. There just aren’t enough people to exploit anymore. Ideally everyone should have 3 kids, but as an interim solution you can start importing workers from 3rd world countries.
Other western countries may not have it as bad with the imbalance, but most are growing worse over time.
Hawanja@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Well idk, most of the billionares are rich and white and old also. Meme still kinda fits.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s scary and yet many people refuse to believe in climate change. I’ve had argument with a denier on social media. I can tell that the person is not being deliberately malicious, because he did let up on some points, but he’s the type to kick the can down the road and hopelessly hoping to deal with the problem later on.
mirshafie@europe.pub 2 weeks ago
I’ve been the weird environmentally conscious kid for more than 30 years. People’s attitudes haven’t changed. The arguments haven’t changed. You’ll still find people who immediately get excited about global warming, because they like warm weather.
Some people are just astonishingly stupid, and yet, they walk around and talk and have jobs and can appear to be normal. That’s because they are normal. It is normal to be stupid.
justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
it reminds me of this quote from game of thrones, is not the same thing, but it gives the same vibe about the scope of people’s thinking and worries: “The common people pray for rain, healthy children, and a summer that never ends. It is no matter to them if the high lords play their game of thrones, so long as they are left in peace. They never are.”
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I know scientifically minded people who view it both as ‘hysteria,’ and for what remains, something that geoengineering can solve in the future.
In other words, look up the WSJ article advocating for fossil fuel production maximization as a net economic optimization in the long term, as basically ‘better to maximize efficiency now, to better geoengineer solutions in the future.’
…I read geoengineering papers. They are horrific, as in “well, in our state-of-the-art-solution, maybe the ice caps will go extinct under acid rain and we’ll have to evacuate millions, and it’s still economically unfeasible, but maybe it will blunt things some?” I’m offended such arguments are being presented.
But I can see where those opinions come from. All the conspiracists are right.
Gonzako@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Here they claim it as a “natural process”. Good ol denial
Brimstone@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
It is a natural process as humans are natural.
And we are releasing natural stuff that is accelerating the change of the climate.
It’s much easier to pretend humans aren’t impacting it if people are allowed paint humans actions as outside nature. We are a huge part of nature, there’s 6 billion of us.
MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My dad believes in this
PokerChips@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Marketing gimmick so the evils can keep on eviling
wraekscadu@vargar.org 2 weeks ago
It’s grandma’s fault IF she voted for climate unfriendly folks. Else, this is just edgy genz ageism. Ageism isn’t cool.
LemmySuxNow@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Plot twist, none of them actually do anything about climate change
boonhet@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Who do you think owns those companies doing all the climate unfriendly things?
If you see the likes of BlackRock or Vanguard in the list, that’s mostly retirement funds, meaning it’s mostly old people retiring off those companies. Grandma is an Exxon-Mobil shareholder and a Meta shareholder and absolutely invested in the AI industry through her nvidia holdings. She just doesn’t know any of it, but all of it is being done for her benefit as part of the ownership class.
People over 55 own 73% of all the assets in the US.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Millennial and genz ageism. Which makes me wonder what’ll happen when the last GenXer dies, millennials are still whining about student loans and not being able to afford a house
Malica@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
No it isn’t.
MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Tbf they voted for them
wpb@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If you can vote for politician A and politician B, and both of them are bought by the fossil fuel companies, to what extent are you to blame?
And if citizens can be held accountable for the actions and choices that their goverment has made, and that government has committed war crime after war crime abroad, killing literal millions, does that mean citizens are a legitimate target for retaliatory attacks? Was the Dresden firebombing justified? Was 9/11 justified? Were the atomic bombs dropped on Japan justified?
ElChinchilla@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Fossil fuels, petrochemical refining and usage, industrialized meat “farming,” clothing/fast fashion, cement.
btsax@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Ah yes, I remember when my grandmother spent a century undermining scientific research on climate change through a massive campaign of exaggerating scientific uncertainty and overwhelming news media all while increasing consumption worldwide to 103 million barrels per day and promoting the development of the military-industrial complex to secure her interests
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Did your Grandma vote for and openly support the massive campaign of exaggerating scientific uncertainty and overwhelming news media all while increasing consumption worldwide to 103 million barrels per day and promoting the development of the military-industrial complex to secure her interests?
If so, then yes she is also at fault for the reason it isn’t Cold in October anymore.
btsax@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Oh another thing my grandmother is personally responsible for is fomenting working class infighting to keep people squabbling and not looking upwards at the people who are the real cause of problems. That was also her specifically.
Gaslov@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My grandma was not allowed to vote in the Chinese nor Indian elections.
Aneb@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Speak for yourself I’m wrapped in my blanket, but thats because of massive draft in my apt
Dhs92@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
My parents keep saying “it’s always been like this here”
Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Funny. My parents say the same thing. “This is just fear mongering. We had warm Autumns in my childhood.”
Then I go look into the actual data of what their warmest years were and it’s nowhere near what we’re experiencing these days.
chaogomu@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My father watched the snowcaps melt off the mountains, and still supports the sort of people who want more drilling.
YragNitram1956@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
ImageThe Trump administration officially eliminated the 2009 EPA “endangerment finding,” stripping the federal government of its legal authority to regulate greenhouse gas emissions.The administration rolled back regulatory requirements for automakers, loosening curbs on gasoline-powered vehicle pollution. Trump has heavily promoted a “drill, baby, drill” energy agenda, easing limits on industrial pollutants and attempting to keep aging fossil-fuel infrastructure online. He routinely mocks climate science on social media, frequently pointing to severe winter weather or downward revisions in worst-case climate projections as supposed evidence against global heating. ImageThe most uneducated buffoon in history stands at a podium, bloated with self-importance, lips pursed like a carnival barker ready to sell turd milk to the unsuspecting. He grins a grotesque smirk stretched across his face as he scrawls his name onto a hollow decree, a sham celebration of the dismantling of knowledge itself. The Department of Education falls, not with a bang, but with wheezing verbs, suffocated under the weight of his own staggering ignorance. Surrounding him are the usual suspects: cowards in expensive suits, servile sycophants clapping like trained seals, and racist opportunistic ghouls picking clean the bones of democracy. Liars, fools, and thieves all parasites fattening themselves on the hardships of the many. They stand in rigid formation, dead-eyed and soulless, their allegiance sworn not to country, not to principle, but to power, and the dark, festering rot that clings to it. And there he is the convicted wrong, the living embodiment of septic tank spew, his voice a noxious fog of grift and grievance. He lectures the world on right and wrong, irony clawing at the walls, desperate to escape the grotesque theatre of his moral void. The stomach turns, the air curdles, and for a moment, history itself recoils watching, in horror, as the great American experiment teeters on the precipice, led by a man who couldn’t spell “precipice” if his life depended on it.’
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I don’t hate 'Muricans (with about a 60% notable exception for those who voted orange, or sat idly by)
But I HATE 'Murica
It has always been a shitty, cruel, vulgar place
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
The physical country itself is actually beautiful, aside from the urban dystopias.
someguy3@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So this is the start of Super El Nino “winter that wasn’t”.
Syndication@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
I already didn’t get a winter last year. It was 60°F almost the entire time 🫠
cheat700000007@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Canadian here. Haven’t turned on heating in a year and a half at least. Sitting beside an open sliding glass door and currently considering turning on a fan. It’s almost 9pm.
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus 2 weeks ago
wintern’t
someguy3@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Winter is not coming.
heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
The Winter of 2000 was also like this. We were working on our cars with t-shirts, in Minnesota, and it was 42-50(something) a lot of the winter.
Jiggle_Physics@quokk.au 2 weeks ago
But that was abnormal. When I was a kid in PA there would be snow by Halloween, and come december you expected snow to stay until march. There were occasional exceptions, like 60 degrees in februrary, or 100 something in mid summer, but those were like once a decade events. Now we barely have snow that lasts more than like a couple weeks before it gets warm enough to melt everything.
modestmeme@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes, grandma started the industrial revolution 200 years ago. Thanks Na Na…
axx@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Meh. Can we have the same meme but with old rich men?
If you want to represent the generations that fucked the climate up for gain, let’s pick folks who look a bit more like those who did.
berno@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Sent from my iPhone
sips Starbucks
SecretiveVault@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
💯💯💯
Hawanja@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I agree. Let’s put the blame where it actually belongs.
orioler25@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
you guys are seriously gonna throw g-maw under the bus before you adopt systemic criticisms
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Class warfare? Naaah
Generational warfare!!! WOOOH
snoons@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
+40 C°
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
Impose voting rights restrictions that reduce their access. Take the average life expectancy in your country, reduce the number by whatever the voting age is in your country. Cut off their right to vote by that number.
In the USA, where you can vote at 18, if the average life expectancy is 81 (made up a number), voting would end after 63. Pretty good way to ensure longterm thinking prevails.
dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Damn, GG was CEO of a fossil fuel company? or a billionaire?
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes they embraced the revolutionary technology of cars, which enabled post-WW2 suburbia to boom, which established the economic base of the rest of industry progress to what we have now.
…so do we blame them? Because if you blame them, the look forwards to Gen Alpha blaming you for letting AI take hold.
Zachariah@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
yes, blame us for ai
tigermountain@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So are boomers responsible for everything that’s wrong in the world now or just climate change?
CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Gramma’s walker probably runs on coal for no goddamn reason
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“Honey, but all I did was work for Denny’s”
“Time for your MAID appointment grandma”
fenrasulfr@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It easy always blaming the baby boomers and Gen X. But the millenials and Gen Z are nearly just as cupable of global warming.
The amount of time we spend on the internet and the wastefull use of products contribute a lot to global warming.
Denfa@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Don’t panic yet. Give corporations and their store-bought politicians time to convince us it’s normal.
Polisheocket@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I lived in SoCal for 15 years and it was always hot the first couple weeks of October. Not usually this hot but hot. Super El Niño I’m sure is helping with that
wazoobonkerbrain@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This meme is poorly worded. It says that it’s grandma’s fault that October used to be cold. It should say that it’s Grandma’s fault that October is no longer cold.
lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Your kids are Monday morning quarterbacking. And your grandkids will be tearing you a new butthole for all the stuff you’re not fixing right now.
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
To be fair to the granny, usually not even her fault, but some corpo bastard that she didn’t have the power or will to fight against
Saryn@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“Entirely”
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
I don’t understand why people think that October is supposed to be a cold month, it’s never been a cold month, it’s not until late October the leaves start turning brown. The coldest months are January in February.
I blame Charles Dickens, he was the one that decided it had to snow in December, even though it never does. r.
crbn@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
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gewindestift@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
It baffels me how many here seem to think that climate change is a billionaire problem. Are you really serious about this? (genuine question)
What makes you think that way? Its so obviously not true.
Look around you. Imagine you can see CO2. Coming out of the cars around you, the airplanes overhead, trucks and cargo ships delivering your consumer goods, tractors and harvesters on the nearby fields. Are the cars Ferrairs? The planes private jets? The trucks and cargo ships transporting exquisite furniture? The farmers producing kobe beef?
Must be comfortable in your world…
YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
Blaming older generations instead of the powerful and wealthy is dumb and counterproductive.
One_Honest_Dude@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The older generation ceded our power to the wealthy. They went gleefully along with tax policy designed to move money to the top, anti union legislation, increasing costs of education, stymieing environmental regulation, not pursuing and enforcing trust busting measures, offshoring industry, etc , etc. They weren’t the driving force, you could claim they were tricked, but it was their own short sighted greed and often bigotry that allowed them to go along with it. And they by and large continue to support all that same shit.
BooBees@fedinsfw.app 2 weeks ago
It’s the continued support and denial instead of contrition that makes this meme fine for me. Don’t want to be targeted? Make it right.
DeckPacker@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
And Gen-Z helped elect Trump in 2024.
Saying that problems are because if a certain group of people is just dumb analysis. It is always about broader systems of power. Capitalism has it’s ways to bend democracy to it’s will.
The ruling class wants you to blame the elderly for the problems in the world. Because then you aren’t focused on the real issues.
If we really wanna fix problems instead of fighting each other, we need to really stop bigotry in all it’s forms and start becoming class conscious.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Did they actually? Or are you just saying that?
The Americans who believe their democracy is real are as bad as the ones who believe climate change is fake.
Rothe@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
So by your nonsensical logic the current young generation is at fault for ceding more power than have been ceded in a long time to fascist oligarchs in the US.
It is plain bullshit nonsense. And you have gobbled up all of the ageism propaganda created by the oligarch propagandeers to make you completely forget the actual issue of class war.
dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 2 weeks ago
Older generations also elected FDR four times and created the only social safety nets we have, created the EPA, eliminated smog, cleaned up our rivers, created the endangered species list, etc.
I’m getting really sick of how easily some of you fall for these obvious divide and conquer tactics. Wake the fuck up and actually think critically for once. Climate change is far more of a class issue than generational one.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Generational warfare is a way to obscure class war, and a way to disconnect people from being inspired by the HISTORY of class warfare.
The 8 hour day? Unions? The wellfare system (such as it is), maybe Grandma was on the picket lines for some of that too.
FishFace@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I’m not enjoying being in the first generation to be poorer than my parents’. This is not a distraction; it’s a big fucking deal.
My parents, personally, have not really contributed to the problem. They vote sensibly, they have been climate conscious (especially my dad) for wayy longer than most people. But those are individual stories amongst the overall picture.
On the wider point, being on the picket lines fighting for workers’ rights doesn’t have much bearing on whether you then voted to take money out of the public services your parents created, which you benefited from, so that you could enrich yourself personally.
I think you might have a slight fuzziness in your history here, too. The labour movement, at least in my country, reached its peak in the first decades of the 20th century. Boomers were born around the 50s, reaching adulthood around the 70s. We already had a minimum wage, 8 hour days, weekends, paid holiday, sick leave, etcetera. We already had a welfare system. Around this time, the “post-war economic consensus” was being dismantled, and public services were being sold off to private investors. If we’re just looking at the resolution of generations, the prototypical grandma wasn’t doing the things you’re talking about - they were done by her mother or grandma or others.
Again, this is a broad brush with room for variation within generations. But there’s a section of the online left that wants to remove all responsibility for anything, especially climate change, from ordinary people. As if we can but do the bidding of billionaires. But if a population votes for climate change, or votes to dismantle public services, they deserve the blame.
hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
somebody voted GOP to have Trump in charge and paying companies to NOT block wind farms, somebody keeps buying giant trucks and voting to rip up bike lanes etc
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Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So no young people voted for Trump?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Environmentalists from the prior generations aren’t real. Nobody has ever done anything about climate change ever before and they’re not doing anything now and they never will.
That’s why the best way to fight climate change is to divide into generational cohorts and scream “Your Fault!” at everyone older.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Also, those priir movements did nothing to pave the way for todays established organizations.
tidderuuf@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ya, my grandma never had a private jet or a megayacht. Not sure how her 300sq ft bungalow she lived in for 40 years and tending a community garden plot led to the environmental and socioeconomical issues we face now.
StabbingSky@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
But they did elect the politicians who caused the damage. A majority, anyway.
someguy3@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They voted for it.
Rothe@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
No they fucking didn’t. Fascists voted for it, not age.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s hilarious that people blame boomers and nepotism for the problems of the world without seeing the contradiction.
vivalapivo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Ok, I will blame you then, yta4qcam2a9j7EfTgHrh