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wpb@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

If you can vote for politician A and politician B, and both of them are bought by the fossil fuel companies, to what extent are you to blame?

And if citizens can be held accountable for the actions and choices that their goverment has made, and that government has committed war crime after war crime abroad, killing literal millions, does that mean citizens are a legitimate target for retaliatory attacks? Was the Dresden firebombing justified? Was 9/11 justified? Were the atomic bombs dropped on Japan justified?

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davetortoise@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Your options are much greater than voting for politician A or politician B

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- wpb@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I was responding to
  
  Tbf they voted for them
  
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  - davetortoise@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Sure, but I dont think they as a generation did nearly enough regarding climate change specifically.
    
    And as far as voting goes, they pretty regularly made up the core voter base of administrations which denied or ignored climate change
    
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    wpb@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Have you considered directing your ire at the folks who’ve bought our politicians to advocate for pro-fossil fuel policies, and the folks who bought our media to popularize pro-fossil fuel positions instead of at their victims?
    
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gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Not everyone is an American

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- wpb@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I figured people could extrapolate, but here goes for your benefit:
  
  If you can vote for politicians P1 through PN where N is an integer greater than or equal to 1, and all of them are bought by the fossil fuel companies, to what extent are you to blame?
  
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  - gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Some nations are less corrupt, and even actively have more renewables than any other source of fuel and energy.
    
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MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Democrats have a better record on climate than Republicans do

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- wpb@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Sure, but making it worse at a slightly slower rate is still making it worse. The most recent democratic presidential candidate was pro fracking.
  
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- Denfa@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Only so much as was necessary to keep the carrot on the stick
  
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teuniac_@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
That only holds true for the US. Plenty of choice where I grew up.

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