doesn’t harm organic tissue
Which is totally why Bayer has settled their lawsuit for several billions of dollars over claims that it causes lymphoma.
"Science isn't political!"
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officermike@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Also, the stomach’s microbiome isn’t plants…
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Your stomach microbiome is plants
This is why I spend a solid 3 hours a day facing the sun with my mouth held wide open. Gotta let my tummy plants photosynthesize somehow.
Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
You say that as a joke but I’m pretty sure this clown is also one of the quacks who regularly talked about the “health benefits” of butthole tanning.
thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 2 weeks ago
I once saw him (in person) give a drunken, sloppy, rambling speech to a bunch of high schoolers back in 1999. Calling him a clown is an insult to clowns.
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Bacteria is not in the kingdom plantae.
_stranger_@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Your stomach micro biome is plants.
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
That’s interesting. I wonder where the sunlight gets in to my stomach for all those plants to photosynthesize.
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Non organic plants at that
fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Funny that in Spanish it’s called “flora intestinal”, not “fauna intestinal”. Always though that it’s a but of a misnomer.
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Intestinal flora is a common phrase in English, too. Or “gut flora”. It’s one of those old 19th century scientific phrases which has stuck around.
Like this, err, gentleman (who apparently wants to drag us back to that past) we used to believe gut bacteria to be plant-based. Science caught up, but the term has had sticking power. It seems to be a favorite of marketers of probiotic supplements.
“Microbiota” or just the straightforward “gut bacteria” would be more accurate and modern.
Hexarei@beehaw.org 2 weeks ago
We also just call it “gut flora” in english too
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Funny that you believe RFO Jr believes in bacteria. Dude doesn’t believe in germ theory
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Well it’s only a theory has anyone actually met a germ?
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Sometimes I have this weird theory that RFK Jr is really like a Dr. Zoidberg type alien in a skin suit. He just kind of guesses at how human anatomy works because he isn’t human himself and isn’t professional enough to get a real education on the subject.
Juice@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
“I took the liberty of fertilizing your caviar”
– RFK jr
VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
At least Zoidberg means well, RFK Jr. has more in common with the brain slugs or the gas station egg salad sandwiches
rockerface@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
If it’s his brain worms speaking, that would explain a lot.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s hard to say whats more farfetched, that he is a Zoidbergian alien, or that The Kennedys were just raised that far from any level of anything resembling actual human reality?
Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
heredetary power is a form of abuse.
glimse@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Here’s the new theory I’m pushing:
Have you ever seen RFK in the same room as the Necronomicon? Just something to think about.
SunshineJogger@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Eerily accurate
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
well actually the aliens in the MIB controlling the meat suit.
Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
this is the best response ✅
judgyweevil@feddit.it 2 weeks ago
He contradicts himself even in his own wacky theories
Goodeye8@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Considering wacky theories have a tendency to contradict each other it would be far more impressive if his wacky theories weren’t contradictory.
RobotToaster@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
I can’t tell if this is supposed to be for or against glyphosate?
fossilesque@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
Depends who is making money.
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
He seems to be… pro-celiac?
RamenJunkie@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Real red blooded manly Americans only eat the rawest red meat directly from the carcas and have no need to worry about celiac disease like some girly communist liberal soy boy would.
/s
NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Same! If it’s an errant argument against glyphosate, I guess I’ll take it? Or is it a stance that celiac is no big deal and we should put more glyphosate in our food?
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
" it is unequivocal that exposure to glyphosate produces important alterations in the structure and function of the nervous system of humans, rodents, fish, and invertebrates."
melfie@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Glyphosate has also been linked to gluten intolerance: pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3945755/
Maybe at some point, all the “gluten free” products will switch to “glyphosate free”. Until then, I’ve been buying imported flour from Italy, where its use is significantly more regulated than here in the US, although not entirely banned.
Batman@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So following this logic, am I a plant?
TeddE@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Who told you to say that‽
Who do you work for!?!
Loce@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
One with frontotemporal dementia that has rapidly shrinking brain, the other one with half a brain eaten by the worm… in what fucking timeline do we live… feels like Rick and Morty episode… fuck. me.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
destroyed by HEROIN worms.
Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Heroin-fueled brain worms, allegedly contracted from (knowingly and voluntarily) eating rotten meat on a semi regular basis*
S4m_S3p1l@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
The timeline where Americans collectively lose their minds and make shit loads of money uploading youtube videos about it.
YoiksAndAway@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
I remember that when Roundup first came out, glyphosate was being held up as a brilliant example of herbicide design since it inhibits a vital metabolic pathway in plants that animals don’t have. They even claimed that the surfactants in Roundup were more harmful than the glyphosate itself. I guess that claim didn’t hold up too well.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
some weeds already have become resistant to it, not all but sooner or later more and more will be selected for it.
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Everything is political, and there has never been a time that proves that better than now.
ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
The fact that all of a sudden writing with a Sharpie is a political statement is baffling.
yesman@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Of course science is political. Knowledge is power and all power systems are political.
But ignoring philosophy, Science is a charity. By in large they must beg for their money. You don’t suppose that the people providing the money have any influence?
And I’m not talking about junk science, biased studies, or even fraud. A perfectly run study may still be political simply because it was chosen for funding over something else.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
It’s a little more complex than that. Some things:
- …lse.ac.uk/…/book-review-dark-academia-how-univer…
- massivesci.com/…/chaos-in-the-brickyard-comic-mat…
It’s a structural problem, but still the same problem plaguing the rest of society at the moment.
Chakravanti@monero.town 2 weeks ago
It looks like you all snuffed some TetraFunkoTetris
Slashme@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
By in large
L7HM77@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Awfully big words, for someone who doesn’t believe in germ theory.
Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
holup, what? This guy is working on Victorian era medical knowledge? Is his idol Robert Liston??
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Theodoric of York.
You know, medicine is not an exact science, but we are learning all the time. Why, just fifty years ago, they thought a disease like your daughter’s was caused by demonic possession or witchcraft. But nowadays we know that Isabelle is suffering from an imbalance of bodily humors, perhaps caused by a toad or a small dwarf living in her stomach.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Who would’ve predicted modern toxic bro culture leading to the resurfacing of miasma theory? But at this point I wouldn’t be surprised to hear him start talking about imbalances of black bile and phlegm.
glorkon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
As if denying millions of Americans access to proper healthcare wasn’t enough, they appointed an anti-science, anti-vaxx idiot as if to make sure even more harm would be inflicted on them.
psycho_driver@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Sounds legit. Where do I sign up for my glyphosate injections?
xep@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
What I think he’s saying is that Glyphosate affects the shikimate pathway, which is a biological pathway in plants. This doesn’t exist in human cells, but it does exist in our gut microbiota.
We also know now that Glyphosate is a glycine analogue and can displace glycine anywhere in protein synthesis, with unknown effects. It’s also likely an endocrine disrupter.
Filiforme@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Ofc the digestive flora is plants. Man the level of stupidity. Just as dumb as the orange dumbass talking about asylum seekers being release from mental asylums… What a time to be alive.
DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
WTF
GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Someone should.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
RFK has never been about science.
He was a paid antivax advocate, for money, now he’s a paid glyphosate advocate, again for money.
lobut@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Ah yes, he’s on the show with the very tall and smart scientist Dr Rogan /s
Sickos@hexbear.net 2 weeks ago
Only wearing crop tops to help the little greenhouse in my belly
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
So does it go after organic tissue or not, because last time I checked I’m pretty certain that plants are organic. No one has plants in their stomach either. What a prat.
realitista@lemmus.org 2 weeks ago
Any scientists want to weigh in here? It’s a theory I’ve heard that does sound plausible even though it’s coming from this moron’s mouth.
figjam@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
My mother developed an allergy to Roundup that she thought was celiac until she discovered that organic bread didn’t bother her at all.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So what does he think he’s found a cure for this time? We’ve done covid, fatness, and autism - is this supposed to be a cure for gluten allergy?
FishFace@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Science itself is not political, this is not a science meme, and having looked at your post history I won’t be missing anything by not seeing you again.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
RFK jr uses brain worms all out attack! It was highly effective on himself…
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
is he not aware that most celiacs sufferers are mostly white people, of northern european descent. With some ME, and indian ancestry.
Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Science is only political because scientists have to continuously convince politicians reality exists.
It’s frustrating that something like climate change is even a political discussion at all. Don’t Look Up captured that frustration really well.
Tiresia@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Convincing people your interpretation of reality exists is literally all that politics is.
Unfortunately, despite being correct, science is also an interpretation of reality.
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
What? No. No, no, you naive fool… many politicians, if not most, don’t believe most of what they’re selling, and don’t give a flying fuck about it.
They’ll sell whatever line the party they’re working for wants them to sell, and they’d just as happily sell the opposition party’s line if it paid better and they could switch without being called a turncoat.
Also, it’s not about convincing people about specific beliefs; most people are mostly already convinced of their worldviews and if they change them it won’t be because of some politician. It’s about convincing them, despite all evidence to the contrary, that the politician shares those beliefs, and will impose them on people who don’t if they vote for them.
Again, no. Science (except for mathematics, but that’s it’s own thing) doesn’t and shouldn’t ever claim to be correct.
It’s the most accurate approximation we have so far of how nature works, but it’s constantly trying to achieve better approximations, and will happily throw away the old ones when it finds a better one.
It also should always make very clear that it’s an approximation or a description, not an interpretation. Science should always be objective, never subjective, and interpretations are by definition subjective.
Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Convincing people is war. Exerting power is politics.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 weeks ago
I think we need politics to go beyond one reality, and embrace a subjective multiverse where people can perceive what they want to perceive.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
You can invent a vaccine, but getting people to take it is a different matter entirely.
starlinguk@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Andrew Wakefield managed to fuck up people’s attitude towards vaccines quite well without politics.
RobotToaster@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
They also have to continually convince politicians and other politically minded people to give them money, and risk having it taken away if their results are politically inconvenient.
Slashme@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Whether climate change is occurring, what damage it’s doing and what’s causing it are scientific questions. How to address it is a set of political questions: How do we get humanity to emit less greenhouse gases? How do we get countries on the same page? How do we make sure that the effects of these changes don’t increase global inequality?
The scientific questions have been answered very well, and are continuing to be answered in more detail all the time.
The response to the political questions has been an abject failure so far.
Vegan_Joe@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
Upton Sinclair
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
161st upvote