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Breaking: BAD
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GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Tidesphere@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Potentially? In my experience people will flame you hard for not liking BB. Usually when people bring it up, if I mention I didn’t care for it, they get irrationally pissed.
One person even tried to tell me that the reason I didn’t like it was “because you’re young yet”. Like mf I’m in my 30s
JollyBrancher@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I felt thing after stopping at season 2 and hearing about it after s4 started. I decided to catch up. I enjoyed it over all, but still felt it was too slow. Out of any “slow burn” character-driven shows show I at least moderately enjoyed it by the end? I’ll forever rue watching all of Mad Men.
Similarly, I will never go back to finish The Wire, The Americans, or Homeland after this.
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I mean everybody is entitled to their own opinions, and after so many seasons, inevitably a show will have moments that are better and worse.
However, if you just shit on Vince Gilligan shows in general, what kind of shows do you actually enjoy watching?
Baphomet_The_Blasphemer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I don’t shit on Vince Gilligan shows, I just don’t enjoy them (was only even aware of two of them before I just googled him). I don’t think they’re bad shows, they’re just not the type of show I like.
As far as answering your question as to what I do enjoy watching, I tend to lean heavily into sci-fi, fantasy, or horror genres. Doesn’t matter if it’s live action or anime, if it has a well built world with engaging storytelling, then I’ll binge it.
Soulphite@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
I gave up on this show the day Vince Gilligan was born. I knew from that day forward he was destined to be a terrible screenwriter. I vowed to never watch anything he would create.
Dasus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Bet you can’t even write a single paragraph on why you think he sucks if you have to put in something objective.
Soulphite@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Im absolutely shitposting. To be clear.
I’ve watched Breaking Bad in it’s entirety over a dozen times, BCS at least 4 times, El Camino twice. Finished Pluribus already. The only thing I haven’t really got into fanatically is X-files, but I don’t dislike it.
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Bet they wear shirts for bands where they can’t even name their 20 top songs.
Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Pluribus is absolute kino though
PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
I like pluribus but it is extremely slow though
Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
I felt breaking bad would have been better as 3 seasons instead of 5. The middle just dragged on too long.
RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
You really did need to watch the entirety of malcolm in the middle after season 3 to get the full lore.
beejboytyson@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Not really everyone lives happily ever after
margaritox@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Wow, it’s interesting how different shows resonate differently with different people. I was on the edge of my seat through the whole series.
VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Everyone I know has stopped watching in Season 2, including me.
So glad I finished it though. It’s worth it after you get out of that rut.
MurphysPaw@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I thought it was brilliant
margaritox@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Me too.
danc4498@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I do not accept this. The first 3 seasons were incredible. The 4th season dragged.
b_tr3e@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
I lost it during third. There literally were episode where absolutely nothing was happening to proceed the plot. Just the usual characters doing their usual things.
CidVicious@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
Season 3 was when I really got into the show. The problem wasn’t that the first two seasons were slow, they were just really dour.
Azrael@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
I don’t know why so many people hate it. I thought it was really gripping. Sure, some of the characters were pretty stupid. I hated Jesse, and Hank missed some pretty obvious signs. The real DEA would have caught Walter by the end of the first season. Some parts were a bit dragged out, But regardless I found it entertaining. I was definitely rooting for Walter at certain points.
Aeri@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
All the characters just felt like sad upsetting people and I wound up disliking Walt because it was clear his ego was gonna get him killed. Especially after he killed the dude he was supposed to train.
Azrael@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Fair. Although Gus wanted Gale to replace Walter because Walter was a bit of a liability. So for Walter, it was kill or be killed.
hraegsvelmir@ani.social 2 weeks ago
I don’t hate it, I just never got into it. I watched a few episodes which didn’t really do it for me, and I just didn’t really feel any need to continue it.
DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
One of my favorite shows ever, but Walter was one of the biggest pieces of shit lol. I guess I can say I rooted for him when it came to going after Todd’s crew at the end, but he deserved everything bad that happened to him otherwise.
sirico@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
I like to rip on it but it still had character development
thezeesystem@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I couldn’t get through Episode one for how horrible it is. I absolutely cant stand that show it’s so just. Dumb in my opinion. It was so bad I wanted to watch something else just to stop it or do anything else.
TimeNaan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Judging any show based on the first episode is always a bad idea.
BlindFrog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I stopped halfway through Resident Alien just to start over from the beginning to try & clip funny moments, and damn
I forgot that Alan Tudyk was not a complete hoot in the first episode. Just my take, I think he really found his character’s voice another episode or two in once Harry was more confident in himself around humans.
Tidesphere@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I stopped after the first season, when they repeated the same plot in a row, I just kinda shrugged and moved on.
FatVegan@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
I loved breaking bad when it aired. I’m not sure how much i would like it now. People forget that the whole format was still kind of new back then.
FeatherConstrictor@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I watched breaking bad a couple years ago and thoroughly enjoyed it. What was new about the format?
MrPnut@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If you think breaking bad is boring, try better call Saul. A complete snooze fest, and chuck is the worst tv character ever too.
Scrollone@feddit.it 2 weeks ago
I think Better Call Saul is one of the best series I’ve ever seen (better than BB)
Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Really, it’s too slow. The 40 mins episodes could be condensed in 5 minutes shorts.
I rage quit during an episode where Kim Wexler asked “do you want a cup of tea?” And then proceeded of preparing it in FUCKING REAL TIME!!
Ok, it’s more cinematic, but usually when they do this they just take a cup prefilled behind the counter and move on, don’t need to show the whole process. Ok, probably it’s intentional, to show the detail how how empty and lonely were the cupboards but…
So, for me it’s too slow to be watched with full attention but at the same time there are too many important details that are shown “silently” to be watched while doing errands or something else
Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Maybe it’s just me, but they could have had an entire episode where Kim paces around a parking garage, smoking cigarettes and waiting for a phone call and I’d still watch to the end.
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
To me the odd pace and the cinematography of Vince Gilligan shows are part of the draw.
Like a lot of his shows feel like they’re meant to convey a peak into the beauty of niche monotony. It can definitely be difficult if not impossible to keep that entertaining while stretching out over several seasons.
When it’s done right, it kind of disarms you/hooks into your sense of empathy and reels you in. It’s more than just slice of life where you’re watching as part of the audience. You get to momentarily slip into the perspective of a stranger by feeling what they’re feeling.
For example, always feeling a bit out of place among your elite peers at a prestigious law firm. Convinced that no matter how hard you try or how successful you are, somehow they just know you’re not like them. And you’re not exactly wrong.
Finding yourself looking forward most to moments when you slip away from the job you fought so hard to land, for a quick a smoke break where you can finally let your guard down and just breathe and let it all out with the only other person who really gets it.
Or, finding yourself looking back at the end of your career as a dirty cop with deep sorrow and regret for all the things you did while knowing it was the wrong thing to do. Yet always choosing to take the easy way for your own sake. Then trying to start over new, by picking what feels like the safest most routine job you can find as a parking attendant, just trying to break good.
Even the little peaks into the lives of side characters tend to give little brief glimpses in their shoes.
There’s a throw away scene in the first episode of Pluribus before the aliens begin to take over that stuck with me. It shows a big group of industry scientists pipetting in synchronization while they toil away in a huge lab.
No lines, the characters are all extras, and it’s such a niche scene, but it also perfectly conveys the kind of hive mind flow that tends to become a normal tendency for all humans when you’re working together, and also foreshadows the entire plot of the show.
KeenFlame@feddit.nu 2 weeks ago
Maybe?
Did do you think they just oopsied that scene and just recorded him making tea?
From several angles?
Is this why direct action comedy works best for you?
Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Chicanery!
blady_blah@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I honestly can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic, but I kind of agree with those statements. I just couldn’t get into breaking bad or better call. Saul and I gave each of them a number of episodes to get there. I think it doesn’t help but I don’t like the characters and that makes me not want to hang around and see what happens.
kofe@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Thats part of what made me keep watching. It’s almost masochistic. Walts character going further into the narcissistic abuse with each season is horrifying to me, but it’s also so well written through that psychological lens that it fascinates me.
The difference between that and BCS for me was mostly that there was a ton more back story to see how Jimmy’s psychology developed. I had a lot more sympathy for him.
Both are interesting to me in the sense of how TV shows were starting to pivot away from these more traditional perfect protagonists into complex mixtures of horrible people that I still wanted to root for. But again, masochistic for me, cuz I want to see the good in everyone — and that has come at the cost of understanding when I need to set boundaries and walk away irl. I like to tell myself its like exposure therapy when in reality I need professional therapy 💀
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Blasphemy!
And Chuck was amazing!!
whiskybourbon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Jesse is what killed it for me. He was tolerable and even decent in the first season but after that I just started to increasingly loathe him more and more until the point I couldn’t even stomach the idea of watching another episode. I loved everything else about the show too so it’s unfortunate.
Xenny@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Jesse’s supposed to get completely dipshit-headed but he has a complete redemption by the end in my opinion
Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That was my problem with the show too.
Smart person decides to cook meth…
Step 1: Partner with complete dipshit
Step 2:
Step 3: Profit
It’s not hard to cook meth especially if you have a science background.
EVERYTHING in the show is there to make cooking meth harder because if it wasn’t hard it would be a completely boring story.
underscores@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
For me it was Skyler, I know she’s not supposed to be likeable but that doesn’t excuse it for me.
I hate her character and she makes the show just unpleasant for me.
I did finish breaking bad though, about it being the best show of all time is not something I agree with. it’s alright
electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I hated Skyler the first time I watched it. The second time through, I felt a lot more sympathy for her character.
sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I think Skyler is pretty universally disliked. I thought the kid was annoying too which pretty much undermines the whole premise of the show.
1984@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Ive learned that people have totally different opinions about what is a good tv show… So not surprised some people dont like this. To be its the best tv show ever made, along with Better Call Saul.
But some people like Star Trek Academy better, and thats shocking to me, but true and funny. :)
Zanathos@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Right there with you bud. I stopped after they killed the first drug lord in a wheelchair. I think it was the second season. Man what a boring show.
I kind of feel the same about Plur1bus, but at least that show is interesting to see very prominent locations completely void of population.
banazir@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I gave up after one episode and deleted my Netflix account.
UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I got tired of the characters doing stupid things… Repeatedly
ramble81@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I couldn’t even get by 2 episodes before I gave up on it.
roserose56@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Hey, look, I’m with you, and to tell you the truth, I didn’t even watched itm
titanicx@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I’m still stuck on like episode 7. I know it gets good. And it isn’t bad, is just there. One day I’ll get back to it. One day.
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I finished it and it wasn’t that good
Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I stoped at one if the ep where walter is with his family and its just depressing silence for a few minutes. Unbearable…
Enkrod@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
If it takes 30 Episodes to not be boring, it’s not a good show.
BB wasn’t bad though, I just was completely unable to connect with it.
FooBarrington@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The joke is that episode 30 “Fly” is famously the lowest-rated episode of the series. At 7.9/10.
Kiernian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Interestingly, that was the episode that made me stop watching.
I suspect I just don’t normally like watching shows about miserable people making other miserable people even more miserable, which made the fact that I really enjoyed Boardwalk Empire a surprise.
Guess there must be some other element to it.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
a slice-of-life of their insane and frustrating day to day locked away at that lab. it’s fine, it conveys exactly what it needs to.
vga@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
That’s 0.9 higher than the best episode of Starfleet Academy.
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s my fave ❤️😁🤌
cRazi_man@europe.pub 2 weeks ago
I gave it up at season 2 when I first started watching.
Then I watched Better Call Saul years later and it was one of my all time favourites. Then I went back to Breaking Bad and liked it even better than Better Call Saul. Breaking Bad didn’t resonate with me initially and I’m so very glad I have it another chance.
b_tr3e@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
The second season really became boring as fuck somewhere half through it. Totally missed the density and speed of the first season. I think the fact that they got a contract to produce three seasons made them stretch the plot to the point where basically nothing happened over certain episodes. Compare that with the speed in which the early plot moved…
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Did you watch the movie el camino after bb? We just finished both for probably the 5th time, will watch bcs again this summer.
Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Somewhat similar experience for me: I tried watching Twin Peaks in the late 00s, couldn’t get over the hammy melodrama of the first few episodes, abandoned it.
Fast forward to five years later, watch Fire Walk With Me, loved it. Revisited Twin Peaks and completely devoured it.
Sometimes coming back to something after you’ve grown/changed as a person can be nice.
Alternately, there’s a lot of stuff I thought was genius in my 20s that is absolute crap.
flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Exactly, well written, well acted but the absence of sympathetic protagonists killed it for me. I just couldn’t care.
RedMari@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
I liked that they weren’t afraid to have the main character so unlikable. It also made more sense after I realized it was a Neo-Western.
margaritox@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I don’t blame you for not being able to watch a show without any sympathetic characters. I’m the same way. But I disagree about Breaking Bad not having any sympathetic characters though. I felt like it did. Yes, they were doing heinous stuff. But I feel like they did a good job at showing the main characters’ humanity despite the poor choices they have made.
But I do understand why you would see it the way you do. Shows resonate differently for different people.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
one piece is awesome bro, i swear bro you just have to sit through about 150 episodes bro where it’s kinda bad bro, but eventually it’s good bro.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I don’t get why people hate on one piece so much
Enkrod@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Enies Lobby is where it really comes into itself bro!
tyler@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
I hate watching shows where you’re supposed to hate everyone. BB is one of those shows. Like how is that entertainment?
margaritox@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I agree about the fact that watching those type of shows is not enjoyable. But not everyone feels that way about Breaking Bad, including me. Yes the main characters do a lot of wrongs, but the writers do a good job at showing their humanity and didn’t portray them as “evil” people.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
do you MST3K comment on your shows or do you sit back and take them in?
aeiou@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
yesssssss
I hate those shows where the first 3-6 episodes are just dramatic shots with no plot whatsoever
or those where if you didn’t read the book you haven’t the slightest clue what’s happening for basically the entire first season
jaybone@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
BB was a little slow at times. For that reason I don’t think it was as great as some people make it out to be.
I liked Better Call Saul a lot more. Didn’t seem as slow. But also seems like they didn’t really finish it properly or wrap up all the story arcs, which was a bummer.
thenextguy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I remember watching it. I don’t remember anything about it.
toynbee@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I feel this very strongly - I could even have written this comment - but I’d like to mention that Adventure Time is amazing … Two seasons in. Before that, it’s not a good show.