Oh man I miss the time when I thought this man was actually gonna be like the next Tony Stark.
If you read his reddit AmA he sounded like a pretty cool dude who wanted to advance science.
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Oh man I miss the time when I thought this man was actually gonna be like the next Tony Stark.
If you read his reddit AmA he sounded like a pretty cool dude who wanted to advance science.
The rumor is he had PR people (which he fired at some point) probably doing stuff like this for him with exactly this goal to make him look like Tony Stark or a pretty cool dude who wants to advance science.
Yeah he had quite a few people in the geek / tech world that liked him or at least were indifferent. Then he started losing his shit quickly followed by getting all MAGA political.
He probably would have been happier had he not gone all Nazi, or if he always was that way, at least kept it to himself.
Now he is sad everyone hates him lol.
I think the first time people (like me) started realising how he truly was when he called one of those Thailand rescue divers a pedophile. He went fully mask off in barely any time after that.
It seemed more sudden and severe than just “oh some people didn’t not like him and then things changed”.
I didn’t know much about him really but he seemed to be investing in tech that could really shape the future, which I thought was “progressive”. Like when the first Tesla hit the market “big oil” had been suppressing the EV industry forever and putting your money behind something like that was bold and progressive.
Now he’s a Nazi supporting conservative nutty governments all over the world.
Yeah, I was one of those. I actually thought he was a cool dude. Especially his “I’ll do something I thought of this morning, no idea if it works maybe it’ll cost me billions lol” attitude is something I almost admired. I was also kinda happy when he bought twitter because I really thought the platform would improve.
But yeah, I then noticed the platform would not improve and when he went into politics, I lost every ounce of respect I had for the dude. Now I’d like to see him running headfirst into a chainsaw.
Yeah, and all he had to do to maintain that image was keep his mouth shut and let the pr people talk for him, but no that wasn’t good enough for his ego.
I wonder what this timeline would be like if he had accepted that his submarine idea was naive despite the good intentions and just paid to have a nice setup with comfortable tents and catered food for the divers and kids as they got out of the cave (plus their families). Instead of attacking the guy and showing the world who he was, kicking off a cycle of him lashing out at his falling popularity, resulting in it falling even more, then more lashing out, etc.
Even if he was like that the whole time, he might have kept his mask on instead of leaning into it, probably would have never made that offer for Twitter, might have tried to appear neutral instead of joining Trump’s campaign.
Though hard to say because the self-driving bs and cybertruck would have still happened and might have kicked off that cycle anyways.
I think of him more like the next John McAfee.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but McAfee must have been at least somewhat skilled in the past, no? That doesn’t sound much like Musk.
I guess there is one way he could become the next McAfee…
one of the most retroactively embarrassing moments in my life is in like 2015 or '16 I was doing some dumb team-building thing for some school-adjacent activity, and the task was to create a “new Mount Rushmore,” basically as a group nominate four people who are doing good and important work in the world. I suggested musk. at the time most people there hadn’t heard of him, so I gave a little spiel about how he was the “founder” (which I thought was true at the time) of PayPal, Tesla (which people were just becoming aware of), and SpaceX. every time I remember it I cringe and hope nobody else does. although most other people in the group suggested Beyonce as someone doing “important work for humanity” so idk if they have much of a leg to stand on to criticize my choice
It’s fine. He has potential, and he really did move fast and break things to make Tesla what it was. I don’t think EVs would be where they are today without him.
The pedophile thing really was the turning point. It was possible to see before then, but it wasn’t even the event itself that did it. He just changed fast around that time period. Whether his views changed or he just started revealing and acting on them much more is debatable.
every time I remember it I cringe and hope nobody else does.
Haha you wish!
A lot of peole are thinking back to that enthusiastic spiel as the first time they heard of Musk. Then they say something like “man, I had no idea at the time that u/arctanthrope was an alt-right lunatic, seemed so normal”.
(Just kidding)
I really appreciated him around that same era, as he seemed to be the only rich person actually showing any real care or action to try to do something about climate change. Up until him every rich person and every politician seemed to be actively dismissing climate change as a concern. It feels like around 10 years ago was when political discourse finally stopped trying to argue whether or not climate change is real and instead shifted to trying to argue that any actions to prevent climate change were unrealistic or futile
Remember, Musk was building up an electric car company, a home battery company and a solar roofing company through the 2010s. Plus he was pushing for cool space stuff. We were going to have a colony on mars by 2020! Incredible!
It was the whole hyperloop thing that killed it for me. It quickly became apparent as his Las Vegas “hyperloop” was just Teslas in a tunnel that he was full of shit and it put his other lies and half-truths into perspective. Honestly his antics over the last couple of years have killed my interest in space flight. I fucking loved watching rocket launch live streams. I stayed up until 2am to watch the Artemis launch. And now I just can’t bring myself to get excited.
I appreciate that he brought Tesla to profitability and Tesla proved to other automakers and consumers that electric cars are viable and cool. I appreciate that SpaceX has completely changed the rocket industry for the better and now every rocket program worth it’s salt in the world is trying to replicate the Falcon 9 rocket boosters. But that’s all I’ll give him. He didn’t do the work, he just funded it, and I appreciate that he did fund it when nobody else would but that’s it.
one of the vocally pro-nazi people I still have on Facebook did a paper at university on “Elon Musk: a case for transformational leadership” and has that posted on his company website. he also has clippy as his fb pp, and his profile tag line or whatever has “I am devoted to the well being of the people”
it’s an interesting mix of beliefs
mind you this guy is Canadian. he’s gradually been becoming more and more right-wing because he has been radicalized by his view of the left through mainstream media. however when it became clear that he was pro-Nazi was when he posted about how the people who were calling Nazis Nazis have blood on their hand for Good’s murder and that it was entirely clear it was justified self-defense
Musk thinks he is Tony Stark but he is really Justin Hammer.
Dollar General Justin Hammer maybe…
Sure I can answer him: because there was no better way to push your white supremacist nazi propaganda and launching a child porn abure tool as a stand-alone app would have landed you in jail.
You’re welcome!
Doesn’t grok also have a standalone app? US politicians just explicitly and vocally support child porn, these days.
“He stands for free speech as enshrined in pur Constitution”
is the new
“Triggered much, libtard snowflake?”
Did he really post that? I can’t lie that’s pretty funny
elon being funny? gotta be fake
I highly doubt the man is off ketamina
It would be the least convincing yet most welcome heel-face turn of the century tbh
There was a time, in December of 2016, where I really thought that trump might come out as a democrat after taking office. I think I’d still prefer Gore had been inaugurated, if we’re changing the presidencies of this century, but trump coming out swinging for progressive causes (or at least socially progressive causes, because he’s been too rich for any actually leftist fiscal policies) would have been nice
I looked and couldn’t see it.
What is a k hole?
It’s when you take ketamine and dissociate
a dose of more than 150 mg is required to enter the K-hole.[3]
I love the fact that is actually a phrase you can read in a Wikipedia article.
If you take K while you’re already disassociating from something else, say, trauma and depression, will it cause you to reassociate?
Asking for a friend.
this might help en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-hole
Hey, since nobody’s answered you yet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-hole
Not enough links
Here you go: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-hole
He’s been on ketamine
I had to look it up myself: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-hole
Wikipedia page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-hole
Fedizen@lemmy.world 38 minutes ago
I do wonder how his ketamine use will play in custody court.