I hate to break it to you 4chan dwelling normie fucking stupid shit head, but that 25 hrs a week is not because of the Affordable Care Act. It’s because of greedy capitalist fucks who are squeezing you for every cent they give you to maximize profit margins well beyond what they need to for a healthy business model.
Anon lives on a budget
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jaykrown@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Tinidril@midwest.social 13 hours ago
It’s because of greedy capitalist fucks who are squeezing you
A healthcare system that makes everyone dependent on employers really makes it easy for them.
Medicare For All is about a lot more than just healthcare.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Yeah that stuck out at me too. I love how the conservative media has thoroughly convinced the average dimwitted moron from flyover states that all of their problems are because of Obamacare and not because of the greed of their employer and the laws that they have enticed Congress to enact in their favor to prevent them from having to employ people full time.
the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
Obama are includes a minimum hour exemption and it should have been obvious to the authors of the bill that employers would cut hours to hit that mark.
AppleTea@lemmy.zip 12 hours ago
It’s kinda both. The ACA was based on Heritage Foundation work that was done for the benefit of insurance companies. Not much consideration was put into the behaviors it would incentivize in employers.
BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
I lived in Massachusetts when we called it Romneycare. It was a Republican alternative to single-payer when it was originally designed.
drolex@sopuli.xyz 12 hours ago
So it’s because of Biden? I will not listen to your sourced explanation BTW
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 hours ago
They were keeping people below full time hours to begin with, it just got lowered to squeeze that extra penny from their buttholes.
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 11 hours ago
The capitalist fucks are swinging the whip. The 25-hour limit is the whip they are swinging. Both are a problem.
thefluffiest@feddit.nl 23 hours ago
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 21 hours ago
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 21 hours ago
Still not enough cookies. Nice improvement though.
thefluffiest@feddit.nl 23 hours ago
What does Obamacare have to do with working 25hrs a week max?
MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 23 hours ago
Obamacare mandates employers offer healthcare to people working 30 hrs a week. A lot of places will only allow you to be scheduled for less than 30 hours a week, even if you are able and willing to go full time. It’s stupid, but some people have convinced themselves that it’s Obamacare’s fault that their employer is shitty and the subsequent governments have been unwilling to close that loophole. It’s also worth mentioning that employers did this even before Obamacare because there are other things that full time employees are entitled to that part time employees aren’t.
thefluffiest@feddit.nl 23 hours ago
Thanks. So OOP just has a shitty boss. Got it.
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 hours ago
Obamacare didn’t start that…
pulsewidth@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Also called it Obongocare which made me immediately lose any empathy to them for the racism, but it is 4chan I guess.
99% likely they vote Republican based on the attitide also, which is the root cause of a lot of their complaints (min wage, shitty employee protections, expensive Internet [almost certainly one of the monopoly ISP areas], has to rely on a car because public transit is socialism).
Yeah, the Democratic party sucks by and large for many other reasons, but id rather live in a D city than an R one any day of the week. /end obligatory response to “but Dems”
PuddleOfKittens@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
99% likely they vote Republican based on the attitide also
Are you sure it’s real? Maybe they’re just doing the racism bit for the shock value. You can post anonymous shit in 4chan without actually having any opinions on anything, and half the point of 4chan (AIUI) is getting reactions from people.
Dayroom7485@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Also curious about that. Why not work longer hours and be less whimsical?
MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 23 hours ago
I commented above, but in the US some employers will refuse to give you more hours to keep you as a part time employee, since full time employees are guaranteed certain benefits. Those benefits include access to healthcare. They would rather hire 2 people part time than 1 person full time. This is not Obamacare’s fault, but for some reason people in the middle of nowhere who make very little money have convinced themselves that it’s Obama who’s to blame instead of the shitty companies and their shitty owners.
Fizz@lemmy.nz 9 hours ago
If he wasnt stuck working 25 hours a week and was able to do 40hr a week he’d be living pretty well.
Why is obamacare limiting him to 25 hours?
Ledivin@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Their employer is a scumbag. Instead of being mad the actual problem, they choose to believe their exploitative employer, who throws their hands up and claims “it’s not MY fault you aren’t paid enough!”
papertowels@mander.xyz 6 hours ago
Do you know if they get a second part time job and still qualify for Obamacare? If they can subsist on 25 hours a week, then adding another 15 would really help with savings.
lohky@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Part-time employees don’t get benefits, so they limit you to just under what is considered full-time employment because they hate you.
Isn’t being poor cool?
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 8 hours ago
For similar reasons in my current independent contractor role I’m limited to working less than 32 hours per week, presumably to prevent claims of being misclassified as a contractor.
Now as for why I’m an independent contractor and not a full time employee that’s down to freaking corporate politics following being laid off, leaving for another role and then being begged to come back because they needed my expertise and organizational knowledge (I’ve been heavily trained to pick up the torch for an employee who’s retiring in 2 years, which with the amount of undocumented nonsense and organization-specific decisions it would take a solid 2 years just to get anyone trained up on everything and I’m the only one with the technical and organizational knowledge in the organization right now) so in short they’d greatly reduce costs by bringing me on full time but the CFO won’t approve the job offer (and that’s literally the only stakeholder holding it back)
Captain_Patchy@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
It’s not, his boss is.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 hours ago
Don’t blame the ACA, those companies always had people working part time and just lowered the hours further.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Those companies would be screwing you regardless, you can’t get a company to do anything but acquire profit without government to restrain them, otherwise they run the show and would own you as a slave. Only government limits their power, which would be absolute otherwise.
Unfortunately, our government is now under the control of corporations and has been for some time (since at least “money is free speech” and “corporations are people” court victories), defeating it’s purpose. We used to break up monopolies and remove business licenses for unlawful practices! The good old days.
Hmmm, if corporations are people, and they make and employ AI, that means AI is people or something. So that’s kinda neat.
Inucune@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I will not consider a corporation or AI a ‘person’ until Texas publicly executes one.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Clearly government has failed in limiting their power.
gramie@lemmy.ca 18 hours ago
I just ran the numbers through a tax calculator for my province (Quebec). It says that on a salary of $18,000, I would pay about $1,200 for the pension plan and employment insurance. $0 paid for taxes, and I would actually receive a $4,000 as a tax refund.
And, of course Healthcare is free, Quebec has pharmacare so prescription drugs would be free, childcare is about $10/day if I need it, and since my salary is less than $90,000/year, I would qualify for free dental care.
There would also be a few things like the GST refund that would be about $500/year in my pocket.
Canada is not paradise, but I sure prefer living here.
UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 17 hours ago
Les enfants étaient un peu traumatisés quand on est allé à LA cet été. Beaucoup de gens qui se parle tout seul ou qui font dodo dans le gazon.
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 15 hours ago
Immediately identified the biggest problem with Canada right there.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 15 hours ago
$115 a month phone/internet? Are US prices really that insane? My phone is £4 a month for unlimited calls/SMS and got an unlimited data SIM for a 4G router that costs £24/month.
twack@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Yes, in fact that’s on the cheap side for unlimited with decent speeds for both services.
papertowels@mander.xyz 15 hours ago
WoodScientist@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
You can get home Internet for $40-$50/month.
That’s more like $100/month once the temporary pricing ends and the bullshit fees are applied.
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It’s not actually as cheap as they say, and what you’re getting isn’t really worth the price.
Regardless, when the thing being said is “wages are crap, things are expensive, people are trapped and can’t afford a future” it sorta misses the point to say that they could get substantially worse service for roughly half the price.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 14 hours ago
Why would you pay $30 for unlimited data and then pay another $50 a month on top of that for a second unlimited data? Unless you are running a bunch of servers for people outside of your LAN, what is the point?
GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
Anecdotally: I’ve lived in the sort of place he’s describing and the internet was an overpriced monopoly. Farmers and people in larger cities both paid much better prices for better service. But the ISP had some deal where they had exclusive rights to run equipment on the power poles (or other companies needed their technicians present first or some bullshit which they would delay to the point of impracticality).
At $115 he probably didn’t get the lowest speed and could have done like $60 for internet and $40 for phone but yeah, I can believe it.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 9 hours ago
4/5G, fuck their monopoly. If people leave they will have to actually compete. It’s fine for gaming too, been using 4G for years without an issue. At some point I should upgrade my router to 5G though.
chefdano3@lemmy.zip 13 hours ago
That’s about correct, idk what everyone else is on about, but my phone costs me $70 a month, and my Internet costs $60, and those were the cheapest plans I could get. Not to mention that the reason my phone bill isn’t higher is because I had to buy my phone outright at $600.
Shits expensive here, for no reason other than corporate greed.
piccolo@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
Phone service is only expensive because your paying for the privilege of priority. Go with MVNOs and its reasonable, just the service is slower in congested areas.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
that’s cheap. i oftne pay well over $150 a month for basic interent and phone plan for single person.
papertowels@mander.xyz 10 hours ago
Oh wow, what companies do you use?
Wolfram@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Most ISPs and cellular plans charge out the ass for arbitrary data limits and faster speeds in the U.S. Some areas have decent ISPs not trying to nickel and dime you but not super common.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 8 hours ago
Can you only get regional 4/5G plans?
Shortstack@reddthat.com 1 day ago
And this is why some people are voluntarily living in their cars, you can’t save for shit when rent eats 2/3 of your paycheck
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 21 hours ago
“Voluntarily”
Shortstack@reddthat.com 16 hours ago
For many, they get the air quotes
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 hours ago
Which seems like a decent plan, untill your house breaks down in the middle of nowhere, or your apartment gets impounded while you’re at work, and then auctioned off after the mail notice they sent to your last physical address was not responded to in time.
Its basically not legal, anywhere in the US, right now, to live in a car and park it almost anywhere.
You have to be hypervigilant, to survive this way, and … that just is PTSD, it’ll make you worse at your job, more likely to lose it.
So we’re basically just making a permanent, sub-proletariat class, thats just gonna get funneled into jail or some kind of concentration camp, probably just turned into some kind of functional, if not formal slave class, whether by debt or criminal conviction or both… within, I dunno, 5 years or less?
Shortstack@reddthat.com 16 hours ago
I wish we lived in a society where the common belief was that a rising tide lifts all ships, instead of this pull yourself up by your bootstraps rugged individualism nonsense.
Funny thing about that one, the original meaning of that bootstrap idiom was to mean basically impossible, and yet it’s used about as unironically as trickle down economics was
chunes@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
“American experiment” I hate that phrase. It’s just an arbitrary area on the ground that we happened to be born inside. It’s not a fucking experiment; it’s five corporations in a trench coat pretending to be a country.
itsprobablyfine@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
This is what people mean by that:
“Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure.”
In its conception is very much was an experiment. “A republic, if you can keep it” so to say.
chunes@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
They’d already failed the experiment before the ink dried: 34 out of 47 founders owned slaves. I guess the natives weren’t too equal, either. Oops!
Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 hours ago
All governments are experiments in how we organize and order society. Some experiments (governments) lead to greater flourishing than others, like socialism and communism (in theory). We’d have better evidence that those forms of government actually bring what they promise if oligarchies didn’t shut that shit down as soon as it takes route (see South America).
rockerface@lemmy.cafe 1 day ago
The American experiment has succeeded, because the suffering is the point and the system is working as intended.
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 21 hours ago
It’s a nation of individual freedom taken to the extreme. That includes the freedom for wealthy individuals to exploit everybody else. And Anon is on the side of the exploited. Anon does seem as a person that will always argue for complete freedom, so finally maintaining the exploitation of themselves and the situation they find themselves in.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 20 hours ago
Why am I not free to ingest what drugs I want if we are so free?
hanrahan@slrpnk.net 21 hours ago
It’s a nation of individual freedom taken to the extreme.
It is ?.Have you not lived with a HOA ?
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
It’s weird to see this kind of comment and also a Ukrainian flag in the username.
rockerface@lemmy.cafe 16 hours ago
It’s weird to see this kind of hypocrisy and also… no, wait, it’s the same account who thinks adult women can’t have small breasts. Kindly fuck off.
djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 hours ago
The 4channer should just get another part time job so they can work 50 hours a week and not have any time to themselves, that’s the new American Dream
Kolanaki@pawb.social 18 hours ago
How is Obamacare limiting your hours? Are you a truck driver?
stray@pawb.social 18 hours ago
I can’t recall the details because it’s been too long since I worked in the States, but it was something like if you work more than 30 hours per week the employer has to pay certain benefits. It’s cheaper for them to hire two 20hr workers than one 40hr worker, and then the two employees aren’t seeing any of the benefits they’re supposed to be getting. I assume that loophole is by oligarchical design.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 18 hours ago
That shit was true long before Obamacare.
taygaloocat@leminal.space 17 hours ago
It never ceases to amaze me the way Americans are dealt such a shitty hand these days
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
It happened to me a decade ago before I switched careers. I did substitute teaching and once I hit 29 hours for the week they’d send me home so I wouldn’t qualify for healthcare. I was regularly told I was one of the good subs, and I loved working with the staff and kids.
I tore my rotator cuff one summer and just had to grin and bear it for a year because I had no coverage and was worried about the bills. Thanks Uncle Sam!
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
I was working floating hours (unpredictable shifts, can’t work second job easily) for a computer store chain, I did this for the promised health care plan after six months employment.
I was fired one week before my insurance was to start; I was accused of stealing by a manager (who was doing the stealing himself).
I have had the exact same thing coincidentally happen at two other shit jobs, all three times it was actually the night manager. So they all had insurance and much higher pay, and they still stole from the business and screwed over their poor coworkers who had to be available for three different shifts every day of the week.
Things are much worse now, sorry kids.
Krauerking@lemy.lol 11 hours ago
This really puts to heart one of the issues with our current perception of minimum wage.
People will look at that and say… Yeah but they can afford to live and not realize that we have made a slave out of the worker who can neber better themselves or get more.
They have barely enough to have the barest essentials and tell them unironically to just better themselves or figure out how to be more productive and they can be rewarded while the reward just being a nicer endenturement.The american experiment was to get people to be able to grow and develop more because of the new efficiency giving more spare money amd resources to create more. When you have more spare money you can buy more things at the end of the day.
Now its ablut how long can we keep it chugging along with nothing changing so the same people and same groups can keep everything as it is.This is no longer a wage that makes us all equal but gives us the right to fail of our own accord but makes it so that you must struggle to keep going at all.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 hours ago
OOP can live alone and pay bills on part time minimum wage is insane
kandoh@reddthat.com 17 hours ago
Something tells me if they gave him 40 hours he’d be posting about how he has no free time to enjoy his life.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
I was born into one of those nowhere low wage “right to work” shitholes and I have some advice for people in them.
Leave. GTFO. Get a passport or move to a state with a high minimum wage. Your family doesn’t matter. Your education options don’t matter. You will be better off somewhere else, I guarantee it.
x00z@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Besides fighting the system, a good solution in cases like this is to find roommates. You can easily drop your rent and utilities cost to a third of what you’d normally pay.
LBP321@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
My husband and I are moving from California to Yucatán in April. Hopefully the cost of living there gives us a better quality of life.
blarghly@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I mean, I don’t want to say that the american system is perfect - or even good. But anon is really missing out on some significant and obvious financial options, and really this is due to the defeatist, doomer attitude they express in their last few sentences. They are effectively resigning themselves to the life of poverty they envision because they don’t want to consider that there might be things within their control to inprove their situation.
HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 hours ago
Only good capitalist is a dead capitalist.
PuddleOfKittens@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
Isn’t it weird how half the paycheck goes to rent? It’s not like housing is a new invention, why’s it so expensive?
IMO, it’s some combination of ideologically-driven failures of town planning (the distance from buildings on one side of the street to the other is legally mandated to be ~20m wide, when it could be about 2m), financial fuckery (investors drive housing prices through the roof by buying housing as speculative vehicles, and investors do so because investors are driving housing prices through the roof by buying housing as speculative vehicles - an ouroboros of shitfuckery) and lobbyist-driven partisanship on public transport (car companies hate trains, so they wage propaganda war against them and in support of overly-large roads with mandatory lanes for vehicle storage).
KombatWombat@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
That situation sucks but something that could get you a bit more money is donating plasma. It’s a couple hundred bucks a month if you do it twice a week. It can be done in less than an hour if they aren’t busy and you can be on your phone while it’s happening.
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml 8 hours ago
you’re coming a long way, anon. start studying socialist theory. actually, how do i study socialist theory in a way that makes it easy and fun?
Tracaine@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Compared to Now: I would LOVE to have $100 a month all to myself.
FatVegan@leminal.space 21 hours ago
Seems like it works just as intended
WanderWisley@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
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Anon needs to redirect his hatred.
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
Hmmm
burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 15 hours ago
Putting it in context, it’s probably right. There are a lot of different swathes/classes of boomer, and the ones that would be able to do the listed in lines 7-10 are probably not the ones that were targeted for conscription in vietnam.
brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
My dad was born in 49, he never had to fight in a war. On the other hand it would have been a hell of a ride for him to tramp to Woodstock from western Europe.
IronBird@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
you could pay not to fight