I love paying for schools, because I hate being surrounded by dumb people.
We can play that game too
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Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
Frozengyro@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Jokes on you, I pay for schools and am still surrounded by dumb people!
phx@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
The underfunding or undercutting of education is a big part of why we’re in the current situation
salvaria@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 hours ago
“A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they shall never sit”
LillyPip@lemmy.ca 20 hours ago
So many people don’t understand why we live in a society, and apparently have no capacity for empathy.
They’re free to go live in the wilderness, with no roads, no fire department, no water or electricity, no services whatever, and find out how much they’re actually benefiting from our collective.
They won’t, because though they like to complain, they’re pussies who can’t be bothered to think for 5 minutes that the fact they can read and write their snarky bullshit is because they benefitted from free education, else they’d be illiterate.
But gods forbid they pay back the overwhelming amount they benefit from society in a small way. It’s fucking infuriating.
FireRetardant@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
As someone who works on private wells and water systems, its always baffling to me when someone with a “hunt camp” more luxurious than any house I’ll ever afford is complaining about the cost of our services. Like dude your “camp” is 2000 sqft and and 200 kms from the nearest city. Yea its gonna cost a bit to make your well water clean, clear, and safe to drink while running on a solar system.
They’ll even start to question my wage and why the bill costs so much (as if i have any say) completely tone death to the struggles of people outside their class. They imply if i was paid less their bill would be much cheaper despite me barely making enough to own my own tiny home and my wages really aren’t a major cost on the bill.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 17 hours ago
if you guys don’t have much competition, you should start treating those customers fairly
and by fairly I mean treat them how they treat you
davad@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Sounds like you need to raise your rate. And also not break out your wage from the other costs in the invoice.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 14 hours ago
You know the Mongols did this thing where they poisoned wells.
gaiussabinus@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
You are not free to do any of those things as the land is owned and you would be squatting. These people are removed by force. There is no choice except engage with society as there are no other options.
LillyPip@lemmy.ca 19 hours ago
You’d have to buy your own land, of course.
But you could buy a tiny plot in the middle of nowhere, not hook up any utilities or have roads, and just live off your land if you wanted.
There are small parcels in the middle of noplace that nobody wants because there are no roads, utilities, or other services.
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 17 hours ago
They’re free to go live in the wilderness, with no roads, no fire department, no water or electricity, no services whatever, and find out how much they’re actually benefiting from our collective.
That’s the neat part. They do try, repeatedly, and it always fails. A classic one is Grafton. It’s also known as A Libertarian Walks into a Bear because their little paradise got overrun by aggressive bears. Lack of public services will do that.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
we live in a society, while rich people live in an economy
ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 hours ago
They’re free to go live in the wilderness, with no roads, no fire department, no water or electricity, no services whatever, and find out how much they’re actually benefiting from our collective.
Where?
This is what I want to do, but I can’t afford to buy land on which to do it (and not just any land is useful for this either, it needs to be capable of supporting people before you can count it). Land enough to support a small homestead isn’t cheap, and zoning/local laws often restricts what you can do on it. So for example you may buy land, but not be allowed to drill a well, even if you have the means and knowledge to do so. Or if you buy land you can afford, you may not be allowed to build a permanent structure on it at all.
You’ll get kicked out (and possibly fined) of both state and national parks in the US if they find you “permanently camping”, which they are likely to do since there are frequently people out there. The only other option is squatting on private property. If you get caught before whatever time passes for squatters laws to take effect, you lose everything you’ve built up.
I mean don’t get me wrong, I don’t mind paying for things I’ll never use because it makes society as a whole better. All I’m saying is opting out of living in a society is nearly impossible for most people even if they are ok with not having all the stuff society funds like roads and fire control.
LillyPip@lemmy.ca 19 hours ago
Search off-grid properties. They exist.
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
God I hate boomers
bestelbus22@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
The rich and powerful are making us hate each other to distract us of the real problems of the world
AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 hours ago
Yes, but boomers are a chunk of the reason that the rich and powerful continue to be able to grasp and maintain power.
If boomers ceased to exist tomorrow and elections were held, I think there’d be a good swing left. Not a total swing, but substantial.
thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 13 hours ago
while that is true, it is also true that a majority of boomers I know are worth this feeling of contempt and loathing
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
I hate them too but boomers can fuck off as well. Logan’s run was onto something.
toddestan@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Not that I disagree, but 90 would be silent generation.
AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 5 hours ago
Fun fact, the guy who posted that (Caleb Hammer) is a YouTuber that allegedly hired actors to pretend to be broke people making bad financial decisions to get money off selling you a budgeting course when real people weren’t shocking enough for the audience, and also allegedly pressured a guy into doing OnlyFans after touching him inappropriately. Fun! /s
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/beware-austin-based-creator-caleb-hammer-victor-vulcano-bjzaf
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 5 hours ago
Common Caleb L.
hansolo@lemmy.today 19 hours ago
I attended a very rural school district and in 7th grade a bunch of retired people got their friends to elect them to the school board and at their first meeting they closed my school.
But hey, it’s OK. They’re all dead now.
Psionicsickness@reddthat.com 15 hours ago
I love a happy ending.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 14 hours ago
Voting needs a max age cap, and it needs to be lowered to 15-16 imo.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 10 hours ago
Should be 21-28 years only.
ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
If you’re 90 and that selfish, you shouldn’t have made it to 90.
52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 5 hours ago
Social security does need reform. There’s no reason we should cap contributions. We also need more nuance by ability and type of work one does written we device retirement ages.
Echolynx@lemmy.zip 11 hours ago
We sure do live in a society… why are boomers/silentgen like this?
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
Their parents didn’t hit them hard enough.
biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 3 hours ago
Username checks out
mp3@lemmy.ca 19 hours ago
Social security is the kind of thing that everyone should be glad to pay, and crosses their fingers they’ll never need it.
I’d rather have a part of my income goes there and have the ability to bounce if life gives me lemons than end up in a bottomless spiral of poverty I have no hope to get out of.
Stez827@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
This guy is not actually saying he doesn’t want to pay into social security he is pointing out how dumb of an argument it is “I don’t use it therefore I shouldn’t have to pay into it”. Although even if he is complaining about it it’s valid because until now it’s been something that you could pretty much count on for getting after you retire. But now for my generation we are probably all fucked
skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
I am happy to pay it so long as I have any sort of expectation that I will see a return from it.
It is becoming increasingly clear to working Americans that we will never see a dollar back out of the Social Security program when it comes time for us to need it.
silver@das-eck.haus 18 hours ago
90 and not happy paying taxes? Save us all some trouble and move on to the graveyard
nialv7@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Yes, of course you are. That’s why taxes are mandatory and you go to jail if you don’t pay.
Manjushri@piefed.social 20 hours ago
That’s a really dumb argument. A person complains about paying for something that they’ll never get, and the IndyStar’s response is to complain about paying for something that they’ve already benefited from, and that was paid for by others. I would further add, paying for schools is a great thing even if you don’t have and will never have kids. Without good schools, everyone else’s kids will probably grow up to be conservatives.
einlander@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Twitters UI sucks, indystars statement came first, the. The outer comment.
Manjushri@piefed.social 18 hours ago
Ah, oops. I should pay closer attention. I’ll leave the post and take my beatings.
ronl2k@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Current boomers have paid for 100% of their Social Security pension from payroll deductions from their working years. Social Security pensions are not dependent on young taxpayers.
Soulg@ani.social 13 hours ago
Okay, we’re still paying money into social security that we will never receive, so the anger won’t just go away
ronl2k@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
we’re still paying money into social security that we will never receive
You don’t know that you won’t receive Social Security. That’s just pointless scaremongering. In any case, vote for legislators who will manage Social Security better instead of blaming everything on boomers.
AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 6 hours ago
*specifically boomers between years 1946 and 1964, which have actually paid more than they’ll get in benefits.
The others are still taking more than they contributed. It’s fair to say that some current boomers have paid for their Social Security, but many others have not, and the situation isn’t getting any better.
To put it simply, there are just fewer workers paying in to the system than there are people taking money out, and that number only grows as people get older.
imageThis means only about 80% of existing benefit rates are expected to be paid to people when they retire later, and many of those benefiting from existing rates are already taking more from current generations than they paid in.
I don’t think we should universally hate boomers just because the economic situation they were in happened to favor them in some ways, after all, I want my grandma to keep being able to afford her retirement care right now before she dies, but it’s also just not true to say that all current boomers have paid for their social security in its entirety.
Only some of them have, and with the way things are going, it’s not looking like we’ll be any better as we grow older, as rates will have to decline just to prevent draining the entire fund, while people continue to pay the same % of their income into the system.
toddestan@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
That’s not how Social Security works. The money the Boomers paid into the system went to paying benefits for the previous generations. The benefits the Boomers (at least the ones that have retired) are getting now is being paid by the workers in the younger generations. While it’s true the program has run a surplus, if the young taxpayers stopped paying into the system that surplus wouldn’t last very long.
ronl2k@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
The money the Boomers paid into the system went to paying benefits for the previous generations.
False. The pension is fully vested by the workers receiving the pension, based on the taxes that they contributed. In fact, many elderly would be better off if the amount they contributed were invested in a hedge fund instead of Social Security.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 12 hours ago
Now that’s misinformation. They could not afford to survive off only what they put in.
ronl2k@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
They could not afford to survive off only what they put in.
That’s why many senior citizens live below the poverty line.
carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 hours ago
opinion: individualism is a plague and the generational war is a distraction
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 20 hours ago
Yep, the real war is the class war and the billionaires are winning.
slaacaa@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Exactly. Class is the biggest thing that divides us, the rest is a distraction.
turdas@suppo.fi 19 hours ago
Most billionaires are also boomers. The class war and the war against gerontocracy are one and the same.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
people should be able to have their own sense of choice and identity.
people should also realise that together we can make it so that everyone can reach their full potential, making society better.
pay your fucking taxes
Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 hours ago
I love taxes, I would gladly pay even more taxes if that meant everyone would be provided for.
Except at the moment our taxes here in Belgium are already quite high, and our tax system is a complete cluster fuck with plenty of loopholes for the strongest shoulders to not have to carry their weight. Some part of that is even fraudulent, and they’re trying to get a law through right now to find those cases of fraud more efficiently… But it is being opposed by parts of the govt with privacy as the excuse (which I’d normally agree with, except what they’re trying to change is not that egregious afaik and the ratio of found vs investigated fraud is insane)
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 10 hours ago
We can’t, because there is always a percent of people, a large percent, for whom suffering is the point.
We can’t, but something else can, and something more civilized will displace us.
Our evil dies with us.
piwakawakas@lemmy.nz 17 hours ago
There can be more than one issue, of which both of these are a problem.
The boomers and the rediculously wealthy have the same mindset: fuck you, I’ve got mine
fishy@lemmy.today 14 hours ago
It’s a myth that all the boomers got theirs. Don’t get me wrong, our deal is absolutely worse, but the rich have been fucking people for profit as long as there’s been rich people.