I choose death
Choose wisely!
Submitted 3 weeks ago by Godric@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
tourist@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Depending on how serious you are:
Choose weed instead
Or the crisis line. You probably already know where to find it. Help is available. You do not have to suffer alone. I love you homie.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
He’s an assassassin. He never said the death was his own…
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Just kidding, unless given that exact choice lol. Weed has been a great help this year. Love you too fam, appreciate the thoughtful comment.
andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Or the crisis line.
What happens is that they “triage” you, where depending on how you answer their script you get cops at your door and a trip to hell on earth, or you are on hold for 20 minutes to speak with someone who also is reading a script and doesn’t give a rats ass about you.
Maybe states that aren’t Oklahoma have mental hospitals which are preferable to drinking yourself to sleep, but who knows.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“Everyone and everything will end in my lifetime. I’ll be here to see it all crumble just before I am incinerated in the blast.”
is another popular escapist fantasy.
No one wants to believe they’ll just have to hobble through a slow and painful decline.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I really really hope my beliefs about climate change are delusional.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
We are all stardust though. Billion-year-old carbon.
halvar@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
yes but do you consider that important in any way? if you do you are closer to the person on the left
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I would say it is a neutral fact.
Imo there is no meaning to life, everyone decides for themselves what to live for.
If someone likes the fact that we are made from starstuff, why yuck that yum specifically? It is kind of a nice perspective to take sometimes when life gets stressful.
It is also a part of a nice song by Joni Mitchell and a nice speech by Carl Sagan, both people I admire, but not something I think about a lot…
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I do think human exceptionalism will cause the extinction if humanity unless humans figure a way out of the idea that humans arent just monkeys who figured out how to manipulate fire, rocks and electricity. There are individually exceptional humans no doubt, but we’re not really special from a biological standpoint, at least not more biologically special than say a sperm whale or octopus, etc
1984@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Just our bodies.
stepan@lemmy.cafe 3 weeks ago
we will make global anarchy by tomorrow. no more money, capitalism and suffering, trust
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The thing about Anarchy is that, for many people, the cashless society where you own nothing and are fully removed from the machine of industry is already here. Its just called “poverty”.
The problem is that this kind of poverty isn’t equally distributed. You’ve still got this large, heavily armed occupying force that preserves money, capital, and the painful prodding of induced productivity for everyone else.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
BrazenSigilos@ttrpg.network 2 weeks ago
I mean scientifically speaking, we are all made of stardust. Everything in the universe is. Including the existential crisis your trying to forget by disassociating.
dzsimbo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
And blue light does keep you awake. Are we team Esotheria?
seraphine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I have met the guy on the right irl. He was unbearable
GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Stellaris players: How it feels to have a Spiritualist empire on one side of your border and a Materialist empire on the other.
HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
im not even joking i will sooner become a shaman that lives in the middle of the woods than a techbro im so done with tech i swear
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
IMOHE that just means you are probably a software engineer
DoubleDongle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I just want to drop in and call out “death is a design flaw” specifically. It is not. Without death, there can be no evolution, and any change to the environment is extinction.
The mountains seem eternal, but there were forests before many of them, and though the trees will be different in the distant eons when the mountains are worn to nothing, the forests will live on.
MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
That’s pretty cool in nature, especially with plants and fungi that don’t think. But applying it to people is kinda eugenics-y
DoubleDongle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Oh, giving ourselves endless lifespans is a fine endeavor. We’ve got plenty of ways to adapt to changing environments without changing our bodies, and we’re pretty close to being able to do that without dying and evolving anyway. Shit might get weird, but it always does with us.
tomiant@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
This is interesting because you propose that eugenics is inherently bad because it requires a lot of sacrifice, is that right? Because it doesn’t have to. This line from Gattaca always stuck with me:
[Vincent’s parents are planning a second child, and are shown four candidate embryos]
Geneticist: We want to give your child the best possible start. Believe me, we have enough imperfection built in already. Your child doesn’t need any more additional burdens. Keep in mind, this child is still you. Simply, the best, of you. You could conceive naturally a thousand times and never get such a result.I could argue, could, that not doing eugenics on this level would be immoral. If we can use science to make people less prone to disease, to make them stronger and smarter, why wouldn’t we? I’m not a fucking nazi here, I’m looking for a serious debate. We are already doing this in a different categorical scope with modern medicine. If we claim that all births must be “natural”, then perhaps disease and death are also “natural” and we shouldn’t intervene, and do without medical science and just have nature run its natural course.
dev_null@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Hmm, why can’t there be evolution without death? As long as organism reproduce, genes are passed on, and some reproduce more successfully than others, why would it matter if existing individuals stay around or not? I don’t see how it makes evolution fundamentally impossible.
hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Without death you can’t have reproduction, you’d get way too many organisms to be sustainable in any way.
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
death is what paves the way for change. Old ideas literally die out, since the dawn of time.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So we could go visit our great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents and they’d look like Jabba the Hutt. Holidays would be a beast.
FluidBeef@quokk.au 2 weeks ago
Basically the dark shadows of the Hippy Age Of Aquarius and sandal-wearing tech Utopianism corrupted Into evil by the baby boomers ageing into the dominant political class in the West.
Bristlecone@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
At this point they basically have all the money and all the votes that they need, not to mention the cognitive dissonance they are capable of withstanding is absolutely INSANE
jali67@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
What’s option 3?
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Getting really into sleight of hand magic and smoking a lot of pot.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
I once liked the idea of being part of some new age, neo pagan group and mindset and being ‘outside the mainstream’ but the more time passes the more I regress into a hole of solititude that no one can breach.
Even last summer I wanted to see if I could finally go out and find a girlfriend… now I am seriously going back in my hole.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah I’m pagan, but like, I don’t attend pagan events for good reason
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’ve found that trying to find a girlfriend is futile. I’m 45 and have girlfriends whenever I want to deal with that level of drama and commitment.
The trick is to go out and find groups that are also into your hobbies. If you are actively improving yourself to get better at a hobby seems to be attractive to everyone, though I will admit that far more homosexual or bisexual guys hit on me than women, unless I should count the compliments I get, those come from women more often than men, but I don’t know how to gracefully receive a compliment. My standard response is “Thanks, umm [insert something complimentary towards the person in question.]”
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
We scoff at them both, but seriously pick one and get comfortable, looking reality right in the butt-cheeks is bad for the soul.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Stop looking at the cheeks, grit those teeth, and give that anus a good gander.
(Full disclosure: I am not a therapist, but it’s good advice.)
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Looking at the completely undesirable and incomprehensible bits of reality is bad for the psyche if you think that death is inevitable. Otherwise you’re just looking for clues.
Vupware@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
This is so overwhelmingly hyperbolic I’m not sure what to take from it
shalafi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I honestly think most of these bugfuck crazy views stem from we humans not having evolved to deal with the modern world. People feed us the simple answers we crave.
Godric@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
We were meant to subsist off of grubs, berries, and whatever your extended family could hunt as we trekked around, dying randomly of infections and bear attacks. Then some fucking asshole started farming and it’s all been downhill since!
Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
post-scarcicy society
RAM prices going up
Godric@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s funny, just yesterday I looked at RAM prices randomly for the first time in months, thought “wow, that’s high”, and today I see reference after reference after reference about how high it is.
capuccino@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Really? Are people out there that death is a design flaw? I know it’s shitpost, but it’s based on something after all
CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
Depends on how literally you mean it, in general, those most likely to say it wont think that humans are literally designed not to die and only do so because someone made a mistake, but more that humans might be redesigned or modified not to (or at least not from biological aging). Not a hard to find sentiment if you hang out in spaces with transhumanists, but I find the ones that overlap with AI bros, that tend to have an attitude like “this will totally happen in my lifetime and with no effort because the AI singularity is going to come and give us everything in a few years” impossible to talk to, because all too often they will cite even the tiniest listed improvement in any AI system as proof that literally everything possible or impossible is about to happen and then insist you arent paying attention when you give them skeptcism.
Godric@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes, there are people who believe we will find a way to transcend death via technology. I personally think a world ruled by immortal omniwealthy methusalas that will never let even death release their boot from the necks of the common man is a bad thing, but…
capuccino@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Once I read a creepypasta where the wealthy spent a lot of money paying research and development of immortality, only achieving a worse version of cancer. The wealthy obviously went dead.
binarytobis@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m also hung up on “Crypto is UBI”. Surely this is a one off crackpot quote and not a thing, right?
marcos@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This one is empirically falsified. I never heard it before, and even though I can believe somebody is saying it somewhere, it’s an incredibly stupid thing to say.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I participated in a few crypto UBI projects years ago. The tech isn’t there yet, but most people have decided to just pretend it’s fine to trust someone instead.
Any crypto UBI project (or any crypto IMHO) with a central party in any official capacity is doomed to fail.
blarghly@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I believe this is an idea most legitimately championed by Nick Bostrom. Here is a video explaining his perspective.
I feel like, at least from the stance of abstract philosophy, he makes some good points. And I’m not enough of a philosopher to refute them (though I’m sure some have). Personally, my stance is “I’ll cross that bridge when I arrive at it” - I expect to die before that happens.
mechoman444@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I don’t know how to put this to you guys but the one on the right is significantly more plausible than the one on the left.
Also I don’t like turmeric.
hansolo@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
OoooooooohPleaseNukeItFromSpace
early_riser@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
2910000@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I feel like “both” is also an option
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 3 weeks ago
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Well, I’m already sort-of the right one. I made an AI organize my documents, suggest articles for me to learn from, etc. I vent to AI, I ask AI for advice, AI is secretly running my life in the background.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 2 weeks ago
I always remember someone that came to my country, Chile, without getting a visa, because chat GPT told them they didn’t need a visa, they were denied entry and had to flew back.
Was that you?
and there is increasing evidence of a correlation of “AI therapy” and suicides, or AI emotional dependency in general, character AI is really good at killing autistic people too.WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Ok, I exaggerated a bit, but this depends on the person I think. For me, it is the only way to move ahead sometimes
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 2 weeks ago
I choose not to be an idiot.
I want science and progress, but progress at the service of the wellbeing of mankind, not to enrich idiots who outsourced their critical thinking to chat GPT.
socsa@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Post scarcity is kind of an odd man out here. The idea predates tech broism by a solid half century, and informs a lot of contemporary leftist theory. There is nothing inherently wrong with using utopian thinking as a guiding principle for iterative policy. I’d argue that anything which doesn’t do that is cynicism.
killea@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It occurs to me that I’d argue we’re heading towards a forced scarcity society rather than post scarcity. That’s the only way they can make sure we don’t get a Star Trek type future if/when we figure out fusion power. Hell, we’ve already basically been able to feed everyone for ages.
vateso5074@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Artificial scarcity is definitely nothing new. Look at the diamond industry, for example. Diamonds are common as hell, but they regulate the supply so severely in order to sell these cheap chunks of carbon for thousands of dollars.
If there’s no competition in a market willing to race others to the bottom in terms of price, there’s no incentive to actually produce a reasonable amount of something people want. You can just withold supply and charge way more.
ganymede@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
tbh i’m happy with most stances which at least acknowledges the tension between these two facets.
anyway my point was, imo the “there’s too many humans” propaganda is part of forced scarcity lobby. there’s perhaps too many humans to live as wastefully as we are, so why wouldn’t reducing waste be our #1-3 top priorities?
Godric@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
While post scarcity is excellent and I do believe it is possible in theory, it’s used as a buzzword to handwave away all the dystopian things being pushed.
dev_null@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
There is also nothing inherently wrong with “optimization” and “automation”. It’s just that they are buzzwords and how the tech bros approach these topics.