Charlie Kirk in his own words.
Submitted 3 weeks ago by Vadyazl@lemmy.world to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
https://files.catbox.moe/do6eyg.mp4
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JoMiran@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
GraniteM@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Proverbs 11:10:
When the righteous prosper, the city rejoices; when the wicked perish, there are shouts of joy.
plyth@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
That’s a circlejerk. Everybody believes that they are on the good side.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Really dumb take, and simply not true. Plenty of bad people know they are doing wrong, and they do it anyway, because they want what they want, and they are going to get it. Every criminal knows they doing wrong, that’s why they try to hide it.
nonentity@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I don’t condone what happened to Charlie Kirk, but Charlie Kirk condoned what happened to Charlie Kirk.
RaoulDuke@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
He wanted public executions and for kids to watch it.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
he was unaware he was calling for his own, by someone further right from his own party.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
People often use the word “Ironic” wrong. A person who encourages gun violence, dying of gun violence, is a perfect example of true irony.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
It’s like a bulleeeeeeet in the neck when all you needed was a fork
Auli@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I could care less what happened. And hope a couple more go. They want the guns don’t care about shootings. Well maybe if a couple of them die instead of kids they well start caring.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
They’ve never cared about the victims of gun violence before.
heavy@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I’m further insulted by the fact this person got such a platform to spout off absolute trash.
Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
So many welcoming arms 😡
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
like shapiro, crowder, CANDACE owens, and others. they are propped up by Putin, through a SHell corporation. it isnt by accident, also plus the amount bots/AI to spread thier edited Videos on Youtube.
TheBat@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
As Charlie Kirk said, Candace Owens took a white man’s job.
FerretyFever0@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
The gall for this piece of shit to have called another person unintelligent or sociopathic, holy fuck. No tears will be shed by me.
Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You can see him distort his face even to make some of his claims. I couldn’t watch past several seconds. That doesn’t strike me as being confident. Though he clearly wanted to say those things. Real piece of trash.
PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 3 weeks ago
Holy God man. I expected it to be bad and it was so much worse.
I do understand saying deliberately wrong things just to get attention, and I think assassinating anybody is a horrifying and wrong thing to do, but out of all the variety, the thing about Clarence Thomas being greater than MLK Jr makes me want to go punch his corpse in the face.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It is even worse. That clip at the end where he says “it’s worth it”, was in response to school shootings.
Dasus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Sitting in a tent labeled “prove me wrong” in the US while arguing against gun control is just… well, let’s just say the only disqualifying thing for him is actually the fact he has children.
If someone can prove their not his then we may have a winner.
Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Its also heavily edited to make it look so much worse.
Ive give the first example, the “If I see a black man flying a plane…” one. The context was DEI. He was talking about the resent the cases where DEI initiatives were putting people into positions either in jobs or in colleges based not on their qualifications, but on their skin colour and/or sex/gender. It wasnt just a blanket statement that black people cant do jobs at high levels, it was statement about how shitting employment and enrolment practices are, that we are no long getting the best person for the job.
An example of this in my own country is the RAF. They were caught passing over more qualified straight white men for promotion because they wanted more women and people of colour. The excuse given at the end of the investigation was that it was “positive discrimination”, so therefor it was totally fine to do it. Turns out, it wasnt.
Another example here is George Abaraonye, the president elect of the Oxford Union. His grades didnt meet the requirement to even be considered for a place. But he got a place anyway based on… you guessed it. The fact that hes black. And even though hes made many public statements that call for violence over debate, hes now the president elect of the Oxford Union. A debating society.
So while Kirk is/was still a bellend, he didnt say what the video makes it look like it said most of the time. Why are people doing this? I dont know. Because the shit he actually said was bad enough. It didnt need this fiction that everyone repeats.
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Ok add the context: He was responding to the article that United was going to add more women and people of color to their… TRAINING program. Is there anything wrong with adding DEI to a training program as an opportunity? Both groups are drastically underrepresented, like in the under 10 percent range or so.
The qualifications are the same, they can’t be a pilot without the qualifying. So either Charlie is lying, stupid, or just plain racist. He does not get a pass on that. He was definitely saying they cant do the job.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
And the clip at the end about it being worth it was about school shootings. He thinks school shootings are worth it for gun rights.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
honestly I think he makes himself look plenty bad editing aside. have seen plenty of clips of him talking about women and minorities - there’s no ‘context’ that makes calling people of color DEI at every turn OK.
Frankly I find your fixation on the DEI thing - both in the RAF and otherwise telling - you’re so busy worrying about what other people accomplished perhaps you should focus on your own fuckin lane.
no one took your opportunities.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Well, no. Kirk was still a shit. These conartists will take a sliver of truth and build a racist narratives around it. Anyone who could cut though the bullshit and deliver a good faith discussion on DEI gets drown out by the charlitins because there’s no audience for that. Kirk was both proving a shit produce to his customer base and increasing that customer base because he always had to ratchet up his rhetoric because he’s competing against the other shitspinners.
Another example here is George Abaraonye, the president elect of the Oxford Union. His grades didnt meet the requirement to even be considered for a place. But he got a place anyway based on… you guessed it. The fact that hes black. And even though hes made many public statements that call for violence over debate, hes now the president elect of the Oxford Union. A debating society.
How do you even fucking know that? Why are you worried about a “debating society”? Are you worried that someone unqualified to be a debater has the position now and we’ll all have lower quality debates on the shelves of grocery stores? The only reason you give a shit about that is because someone told you to.
PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 3 weeks ago
MA!
They’re posting weird shit on the internet again!
Ilandar@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
The DEI pilot clips were also edited alongside his comments about Michelle Obama and a couple of other prominent black women (the “brain processing power” clip) to make it seem like he was saying black pilots are stupid. However, the DEI argument is not an intelligent or nuanced one and you are falling into the trap of giving it more respect than it deserves. It’s an obvious trojan horse for racism and paragraphs of anecdotes from a different country don’t change that.
0x0@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
DEI initiatives were putting people into positions either in jobs or in colleges based not on their qualifications, but on their skin colour and/or sex/gender
…they just added those to “being good at sports” as far as US colleges go…
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I’m an atheist. I see ‘demonic’ things. It’s the religious white supremacy Americans. It goes against everything Christianity stands for. Spreading hate, indoctrination, racism, misogyny, child abuse, deportations, violence, crimes against humanity, etc. They don’t even know what, their own religion is about. These people are just pure evil and justify everything they say and do by a fictional man in the sky.
Banana@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Didn’t Christians talk about false prophets and the devil pretending to be holy?
blargh513@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I keep putting it off, but I’m creating an LLC so I can start a damn church.
I can’t get a fucking job to save my life, so why not just profit from the ignorance and stupidity of the lumpenproletariat?
My time is now.
Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
They did. Several hundred years ago. Then it fell out of fashion.
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
As someone who was raised Christian and considers myself one, I think Christianity has a few fundamental philosophical flaws (every religion does).
The major issue is hinging everything on an abstract ideal of faith. Under Christian doctrine one can only get into heaven by believing in Jesus. He is the only path to salvation.
This creates a mkral quandry. Could the worst person in the world beleive that Jesus is their Lord and Saviour and get into heaven? Perhaps not, they must also aspire to live a Christ-like life.
Let’s instead imagine the most Christ-like and righteous person in the world. If they do not believe in Jesus, they will burn on hell for eternity according to Christian doctrine.
What you end up with is a religion where it starts to feel like only one thing matters - do you believe in Jesus? It doesn’t take long moral principles are thrown out the window and people to start judging others less so by their thoughts, words and deeds but instead on just how much they beleive in Jesus.
Other religions have their flaws but particularly Eastern religious philosophy at least tries to tackle how do you live a good life a little more head on.
The deeper you go into the Christianity, the more obsessive it becomes about faith and the less concerned it is with how to live a good life.
Which is pretty warped if you think about it - shouldn’t the whole point of religion be to learn how to live well?
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
What I think is flawed with the religious MAGA is that they forget one of the biggest fundamental thing of christianity: forgiveness. They don’t care about that. They just use their religion as a basis for their hatred towards others so they can create their perfect world. It’s like they only want to be a good christian if the setting is up to their standards. And they are willing to do anything to reach that setting, no cost is too great. Christian values only apply when you’re dealing with other Christians. When they aren’t Christian (exactly the way you want them to be, like white cis hetero) you can dehumanize them and do whatever you want to them with a clear conscience. Like, how fucked up are these people?
Religion is a way to show people how to live. Many people need it so they don’t have to think about it themselves. They need the structure. Sure, I can understand, even though I think it’s dumb. Why the need to believe in something unnatural, a fantasy, to know how to live like a proper human and how to treat others? But ok, sure some people need that apparently. But MAGA does that only selectively, whatever fits their agenda. It’s the same with pseudo-science. Instead of trying to find ways to destroy your theory (and if that fails, the theory becomes more solid) they try to find ways to support their theory while neglecting the rest. This is nitpicking. That’s not how it works.
Either you’re a christian or you’re not. You can’t be half christian and use it as support for your actions, while your actions go against everything christianity stands for. Same goes for other religions of course. But there are always extremists who abuse it. Whether it’s a religion, a system, whatever.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Which is pretty warped if you think about it - shouldn’t the whole point of religion be to learn how to live well?
Surely not the whole point, since you don’t need religion to do that. This is a question that philosophy has been tackling for thousands of years.
Another problem that I see is people neglecting the good life on earth for their anticipated good life in heaven. Why bother trying to live well on earth when you’re only going to be here for a short time, and you’ll have an eternity of living well in heaven?
AA5B@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Let’s instead imagine the most Christ-like and righteous person in the world. What if they don’t believe in Jesus? According to Christian doctrine, they will burn in hell for eternity.
That’s not just a moral failing of judgementalism over actual morals, but a logical inconsistency
This guy disagreed with that tradition and tried to reset his church toward empathy, care, morality
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
PMmeTrebuchets@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Whatever is in them files has to be world ending levels of shit for them to be doing all this. Like they’re riding this assassination to DEATH and trying so hard to further divide us and distract us.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Pretty much what I expected tbh. Surprised it wasn’t worse
F_State@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Almost all of the people paying tribute to him didn’t care at all about him a couple weeks ago will stop caring about him completely in a few weeks.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Bingo.
To steal the term: ‘virtue signaling’
F_State@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Eh, I’d wager alot of these people got seduced by self-righteous outrage. It makes people feel good about themselves.
barkingspiders@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
jesus christ it just keeps going…and going…and going
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
And that is the tip of the iceberg because Seneca could have put together a series-worth of hate quotes from Kirk. He spent years and years spreading hate, fear, and stochastic terrorism.
pfr@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Good riddance.
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 3 weeks ago
Conservative Talking Head “Charlie Kirk had the views of any mainstream Republican”
Clip show of Charlie Kirk saying hateful things
snooggums@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah, he sure did.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Frequently wrong, never in doubt.
harcesz@szmer.info 3 weeks ago
It Polish we ask “co mu strzeliło do głowy”* when someone voices stupid ideas and it think its beautiful.
*literally “what has shot into his head”
NichtElias@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
In German we ask those people “Hast du Lack gesoffen?”
Literal translation: Did you drink varnish? (Large amounts are somewhat implied)
harcesz@szmer.info 2 weeks ago
To that end I highly recommend “Moscow-Petushki”.
SARGE@startrek.website 3 weeks ago
Well… Neck. Close enough?
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 3 weeks ago
“co mu strzeliło do głowy”*
I really need to know how to say this properly.
teft@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Click the little speaker icon on the polish side and you can hear how it’s pronounced.
kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Same
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
No comment on genocidal replacement theory or Christofascist rationale for Zionaziism. Why omit the absolute worst of Kirk?
rothaine@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
…Simone Biles is weak? The fuck?
I knew about a lot of the other shit he said, but that one is just… baffling
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
she is black and a woman, that is enough of a reason for the righties.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Apparently she’s only the GOAT because of DEI, or maybe Critical Race Theory.
I guess thousands of hours in the gym since she was a baby, then winning dozens of tournaments and Olympics, have nothing to do with it. The only reason she’s considered great, is because her gymnastics judges from all over the world decided to apply DEI and Critical Race Theory to ALL her performances, and give her better scores then her white (or other black) teammates/ opponents, and they did it at every tournament, for YEARS.
That’s how she became the greatest of all time. Not because she really is. That title should go to a white gymnast, just because she’s not black.
garretble@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I imagine he was talking about her decision to pull out of competition for a while due to mental health. (And now she’s back and crushing it again.)
Still makes him wrong. And he was still a racist asshole. But I bet that what he was on about.
jve@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
She took a break from gymnastics for mental health reasons. I expect this is why she is “weak”.
I’m sure the real reason to attack her is to convince others to see metal health struggles as weakness, so they don’t stop producing capital.
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Way more than mildly infuriating. The celebration of this guy is one of the most upsetting things to have happened in my lifetime.
LillyPip@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Aye, Charlie, you were dealing with MAGATs, vermin, and swine, but enough about your followers.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I have sound off and that’s enough to know about him.
MrSulu@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Pretty much every NAZI trope
plyth@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Half!
So it doesn’t help to shun his supporters.
Take back their hearts. The racists stole them. Fight the ideology, not the people.
6stringringer@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
The masses are asses.
Eldritch@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
Thank you for posting this. I had family that was confused about my repulsion and disgust concerning Kirk. Only encountering him in the limited capacity that he would be talked about in church. Digging on the web or YouTube even just returns a deluge white washing of his character. Even knowing the clips to look for, it was hard to find actual examples of them. Due to all the flood of bullshit coverage. Saved and Shown.
Peanutbuttergrits@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
Like I said before, “Good Riddance!”.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
ALL PRAISE BULLET JESUS OR ELSE
realitista@lemmus.org 2 weeks ago
How can I share this outside of Lemmy? I know just the guy.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Isn’t the context of the whole black thing about DEI/Affirmative action though?
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Jokes on them I’m unemployed
individual@toast.ooo 2 weeks ago
what is up with that ear ring?
RaoulDuke@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
I’m sure glad he’s dead.
TemplaerDude@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Me too! Fascists deserve bullets!
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m certainly not losing any sleep over it. Lived in hate and died because he didn’t hate enough.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
well the erika is too, she dint shed a single tear, and was selling MERCH at his funeral, plus the "memorial was a political rally for trump.
Samskara@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
He is being turned into a martyr for the cause. Schools and streets will be named after him soon.
glowie@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
You’re a piece of shit
Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Behold: A snowflake.
LillyPip@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I will not celebrate his death, but I can’t muster up any sympathy for the fact he can’t spread this disgusting, hate-filled vitriol anymore.
If you think he was anything but a net negative to society, corrupting young minds and fostering vile ideologies, you can kindly go fuck yourself.
I am not happy he was killed, but I will not mourn a virulent fascist.
foggy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
And we all think you’re a piece of shit for not being glad he’s gone.
Which of his views were near and dear to you, comrade?
Linktank@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
No. You.
Tippy@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Waaaah waaah fox news told me all lefties are soft and scared and easy to bully, they aren’t allowed to say mean things about US, this is bullshit I’m going to hide under mommies skirt
All the leftists I know watched ol kirky get aerated on repeat and MST3K’d that shit. Guess we’re just tougher and less empathetic than your pansy republican ass, just like he would’ve wanted
Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
athatet@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
no u
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
trump, and the gop is doing everything in thier power to do 3 things: distract from epstein, grift from the stupid voters, buying thier merchandise(especially at the funeral), shore up domestic alt-right support(must keep the propaganda going somehow), while not acknowledging the shooter was more right wing than he was.