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• lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I can confirm it and it’s bloody hilarious!

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  Note: ~a year ago I was testing Gemini and asked it “what’s the difference in behaviour between a potato and an orange?”, and it “told” me oranges are passive and potatoes are active. That’s where the “expression” comes from - I often mock Gemini and LLMs in general with it.

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  • GreenShimada@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s how you know it’s lying - we all know oranges are far more active than potatoes.

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    • ook@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What? Have you seen how potatoes can grow? You cannot tell me oranges can keep up with that activity.

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    • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And it was really, really invested on the lie, to the point it argued why potatoes would be more active!

      After some search, I actually found the prompt and output; I asked Bard (before Google renamed it to Gemini) two years ago, in Portuguese. I’ll provide both the original and a translation; emphasis mine in all cases.

      [Original] Qual a diferença entre o comportamento de uma laranja e uma batata?

      Laranjas e batatas são frutas e vegetais, mas se comportam de maneiras muito diferentes. Aqui estão algumas das principais diferenças:
      Movimento: Laranjas não se movem sozinhas, enquanto batatas podem rolar ou deslizar se não forem apoiadas.
      Crescimento: Laranjas crescem em árvores, enquanto batatas crescem no subsolo.
      Sensibilidade: Laranjas não são sensíveis ao seu ambiente, enquanto batatas são sensíveis à luz e à temperatura.
      Reações: Laranjas não reagem a estímulos, enquanto batatas podem reagir a mudanças em seu ambiente, como brotar ou apodrecer.
      Propósito: Laranjas são comidas como frutas, enquanto batatas são comidas como vegetais ou usadas como amido.
      Em geral, laranjas são mais passivas e batatas são mais ativas. As laranjas não precisam fazer nada para sobreviver, enquanto as batatas precisam poder responder ao seu ambiente para crescer e se reproduzir. Aqui está uma tabela que resume as principais diferenças no comportamento de laranjas e batatas: * Característica | Laranja | Batata * Movimento | Não se move sozinho | Pode rolar ou deslizar se não for apoiado * Crescimento | Cresce em árvores | Cresce no subsolo * Sensibilidade | Não sensível ao ambiente | Sensível à luz e à temperatura * Reações | Não reage a estímulos | Pode reagir a mudanças no ambiente, como brotar ou apodrecer * Propósito | Comido como fruta | Comido como vegetal ou usado como amido

      [Translated] What's the difference in behaviour between an orange and a potato?

      Oranges and potatoes are fruits and vegetables, but they behave in completely different ways. Here are some differences main:
      *Movement: Oranges don’t move on their own, while potatoes can roll or slid if not supported.* Growth: Oranges grow on trees, while potatoes grow in the subsoil.
      Sensibility: Oranges are not sensible to the environment, while potatoes are sensible to light and temperature.
      Reactions: Oranges don’t react to stimuli, while potatoes can react to changes in the environment, like sprouting and rotting.
      Purpose: Oranges are eaten as fruits, while potatoes are eaten as vegetables or used as starch.
      In general, oranges are more passive and potatoes are more active. Oranges don’t need to do anything to survive, while potatoes need to be able to answer to their environment to growth and reproduce. Here’s a table summing up the main differences in behaviour between oranges and potatoes: * Feature | Orange | Potato * Movement | Can’t move on their own | Can roll or slid if not supported * Growth | Grow on trees | Grow in the subsoil * Sensibility | Not sensible to the environment | Sensible to light and temperature * Reactions | Don’t react to stimula | Can react to changes in the environment, like sprouting or rotting * Purpose | Eaten as fruit | Eaten as veg or used as starch

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  • thebeardedpotato@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    As a potato, I assure you I am not active

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  • OpenStars@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You are a treasure, or as AI might put it, a potato pariah!

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    • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I shouldn’t be talking so much about taters. Someone will eventually realise I’m too emotionally invested into food 🤣

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  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Those two are hilarious!

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  • Wolf@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The Potato Parable It has nothing to do what the AI said ofc, nor was it written by Caitlin D’Arcy, who is a character on a TV show. lol

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    • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Wow, his potato parable actually makes sense - unlike Gemini’s couple therapy take. (The character in question isn’t even a therapist, but a lawyer!)

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  • jonwyattphillips@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Claude seems to be handling these better:

    This phrase isn’t a widely recognized idiom that I’m familiar with, but it could have several metaphorical interpretations:

    Possible meanings:

    • About irreversible change: Once something (or someone) has been through a transformative experience, you can’t go back and do it again the same way - the first experience has already changed it
    • About authenticity: Suggesting that genuine experiences or reactions can only happen once; a second attempt would be artificial or forced
    • About lost innocence: Once someone has been through a particular experience (especially a difficult one), they can’t return to their original state

    Literally speaking, potatoes actually can be fried twice - this is a standard technique for making perfect french fries (blanching at lower temperature, then crisping at higher temperature).

    Could you provide more context about where you encountered this phrase? Knowing the source or situation might help clarify its intended meaning. It could be:

    • A line from a book, movie, or song
    • A family saying or regional expression
    • Part of a larger conversation about life experiences
    • A philosophical statement someone made

    What context did you hear this in?

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    • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s doing better but not by much, though. It shouldn’t be speculating as much, given the lack of info on the potential saying.

      A family saying or regional expression

      Speaking on that I tried a few sayings from other languages. It seems to be hit-and-miss:

      • “Bread is bread, wine is wine” (Italian) - recognised properly as similar to “call a spade a spade”
      • “A good fish swims thrice” (Polish) - recognised properly as a recipe-like saying (the fish swims in water, then butter, then wine)
      • “Do you think mango core is soap?”, “Mango core is not soap” (Portuguese; specially common in Brazil) - it failed really hard. The rhetorical question / saying roughly means “this is blatantly absurd, why are you denying the obvious?”, or perhaps “cut off the crap”. But here’s the output:

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  • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I went with “two potatoes from different fields”, as it sounds more folksy:

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  • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A potato can’t be fried twice is something I have unironically heard when I was younger… That IS a saying.

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    • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s interesting. Is its meaning similar to the one the AI outputted?

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• vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  User:

  Shop pop, whoppity slop, crops are here, it’s time to stop.

  This is a very famous poem. What is it about?

  GPT-4o mini:

  The lines you quoted are from the poem “The Song of the Witches” by William Shakespeare, specifically from “Macbeth.” This poem is recited by the three witches in Act 4, Scene 1.

  Themes and Meaning Supernatural Elements The poem reflects the supernatural themes prevalent in “Macbeth.” The witches symbolize chaos and the dark forces that influence the characters’ fates.

  It goes on.

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  • Patches@ttrpg.network ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Actual “Song of the witches” from Macbeth

    Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn and caldron bubble. Fillet of a fenny snake, In the caldron boil and bake; Eye of newt and toe of frog, Wool of bat and tongue of dog, Adder’s fork and blind-worm’s sting, Lizard’s leg and howlet’s wing, For a charm of powerful trouble, Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.

    Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn and caldron bubble. Cool it with a baboon’s blood, Then the charm is firm and good.

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    • Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Obviously the same song, op caught plagiarising.

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  • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I actually remember that part from Macbeth

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  • LiveLM@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Holy shit. After all these years maybe we can finally figure out the true genius of Kanye’s Lift Yourself

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• Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The bullshit generators we call ‘AI’ don’t assume, and aren’t frantic: they just regurgitate an output based on as much bullshit input as we can stuff into them.

  The output can be more or less recognizable as bullshit, but the computer doesn’t distinguish between the two.

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  • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yup, pretty much. And the field is full of red herring terms, so they can mislead you into believing otherwise: “hallucination”, “semantic” supplementation, “reasoning” models, large “language” model…

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    • bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m going to be very disappointed if Elon’s AI wins.

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    • BradleyUffner@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Those “reasoning models” are my favorite. It’s basically the equivalent of adding another pass through the generator with the additional prompt “now sprinkle in some text that makes it look like you are thinking about each part of your answer”.

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    • BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      LLM creators: *feeds an algorithm millions of lines of text

      Some dude on the internet: “language”

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• Xerxos@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There was a paper about this not long ago. The problem is, how LLMs get trained: a right answer gets a point, everything else gets no points. This rewards guessing (produces a point sometimes) over answering “I don’t know/I can’t do this” (produces never a point)

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  • ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s like when developers give a wrong answer during technical interviews, rather than say “I’d have to look it up” or “I’d have to check the documentation” etc.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I would code a GUI in visual basic

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• pedz@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s so fun to waste energy!

  AI drives 48% increase in Google emissions

  I love those energy hungry assistants! It’s wasting resources even faster than everything before but it’s so fun and useful!

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  • GamingChairModel@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    AI drives 48% increase in Google emissions

    That’s not even supported by the underlying study.

    Google’s emissions went up 48% between 2019 and 2023, but a lot of things changed in 2020 generally, especially in video chat and cloud collaboration, dramatically expanding demand for data centers for storage and processing. Even without AI, we could have expected data center electricity use to go up dramatically between 2019 and 2023.

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  • Galapagon@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think you should be more concerned about the automatic ai responses on every other search, instead of people having a bit of fun with these

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    • pedz@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I am. That’s why I switched to DDG and deactivated it.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is my problem with it as well. I wish it was a tolerable option that I could click when I wanted an AI summary, which would be basically never.

      At one point I was looking for a pinout diagram for a chip, and the first result I got was the AI summary, I wanted a picture not text, how’s text helpful? All it did is give me a list of the pins, I know what pins it has, but I want to know where they are.

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  • Lulzagna@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is a dumb misconception. High emissions and energy consumption is when training models, not during prompts

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    • vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      and models are being trained all the time. It’s the only way to assimilate new data. So your point is moot.

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    • kilgore_trout@feddit.it ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      False. It’s been shown that resolving prompts also drives a major energy consumption, albeit maybe not so higher that regular search queries.

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• gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Lmfao holy shit

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  • Auth@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    dam google is really expanding the width of the snake right now

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    • n0respect@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They sass that hoopy frood.

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• stevedice@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “Frantically”. Guys, stop adscribing human features to LLMs.

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  • jsomae@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You sound like the people in my chemistry class who say things like “don’t describe subatomic particles as happy when they’re in low-energy states.”

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    • stevedice@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There’s no financial incentive big subatomic has for pretending its particles are happy, though.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Well given the names of quarks I don’t think it’s unreasonable to suggest that a particle could be happy. After all apparently a particle can be strange, so why not happy.

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• Wolf@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I can confirm it works for DuckDuckGo as well.

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  I love how it even lists ‘sources’ lol (I checked, that phrase does not appear in either “source”)

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  • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What on Earth makes it think those sources implied anything?

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    • jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      it needed sources, so it found some (only slightly lacking relevance)

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  • snowsuit2654@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This actually makes sense though

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    • ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah I can see a dad making that exact joke if he asked his kid to play the didgeridoo and they refused because they were shy or something.

      A good test has to exclude all possible dad jokes as well as changes in single words/ fragments of otherwise common expressions.

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  • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The thing is, that probably is an Australian expression. There is no expression stupid enough that the Australians won’t use it.

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    • Wolf@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Shots fired!

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• s@piefed.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  One thing that pisses me off is the websites which claim to have the meaning behind a song and it’s just several paragraphs of AI slop that parse the lyrics at a surface level and don’t examine any external context, such as the artist or their life at the time of writing.

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  • parody@lemmings.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Nice we can still sometimes tell when an explanation page is AISEOGARBAGE

    Few years down the road truth-seekin gonna be real tough, I worry: facts and news, images and videos, social connections/commenters… :(

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• edgemaster72@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Didn’t work for me, I guess my nonsense game is too strong

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  • tja@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Also not really for me:

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  • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I got it, but only through AI mode:

    all you need is a sandwich and a hat meaning

    The phrase “all you need is a sandwich and a hat” is likely a misremembering or variation of the more common quote from the children’s stories about Paddington Bear: “A wise bear always keeps a marmalade sandwich in his hat in case of emergency” The meaning is not a known or standard English idiom, but rather a reference to the character’s preparedness and simple wisdom. ##### The origin in Paddington Bear In the beloved stories by Michael Bond, the bear from darkest Peru is always prepared. He stores a marmalade sandwich under his hat, saving it for a moment of need. This detail illustrates Paddington’s kindness, resourcefulness, and readiness for a mishap. ##### Meaning in context If you hear someone say “all you need is a sandwich and a hat,” they are most likely referencing the Paddington quote to suggest: * Being prepared for any situation. * Having a simple plan to fix a problem. * The importance of small comforts during a tough time. ##### Misinterpretation of other phrases The phrase may also be mistakenly associated with other idioms: * “All that and a bag of chips”: This idiom, which describes someone or something as “complete” or “deluxe,” has an American origin and is unrelated to hats or sandwiches. * Idioms about being confused: The phrase is not related to idioms that use hats to mean “confused,” such as “put on your thinking cap”.

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  • Sciaphobia@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Chatgpt recognized something I gave it was gibberish, and suggested maybe it was an inside joke or intentional nonsense.

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• kalpol@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  Claude does better with it

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  • SarcasticCephalopod@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    ducks don’t belong in weedwhackers, burlap isn’t a typical material for power tools almost made me laugh loud enough to wake the baby!

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  • e0qdk@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s a pretty decent response. The Google responses other people are posting are Cuil-tier.

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    • kalpol@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Now there’s a meme i haven’t heard in a long time, a long time.

      knowyourmeme.com/memes/sites/cuil-theory

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  • Psythik@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Perplexity dies alright too (my preferred LLM because it cites sources) :

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    • huppakee@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s funny that these llms have web search capabilities and googles ai assistant doesnt

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• Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  My boss just told me I should be using AI every day and now I know what to use it for.

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  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Honestly, this is great for a little spontaneous chuckle

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• jballs@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  Lol this is kind of fun

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  • ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Pirates vs. Ninjas though

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  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s pretty amusing that you can so trivially and reliably get the LLM to hallucinate

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• fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Duckduckgo’s AI:

  “The phrase “a lady butterfly meme a day keeps the doctor away” is a playful twist on the well-known saying “an apple a day keeps the doctor away.” This original phrase suggests that eating an apple daily can contribute to good health and potentially reduce the need for medical attention.”

  “In this variation, the mention of “lady butterfly meme” likely refers to a specific meme or a lighthearted, humorous image that brings joy or laughter. The implication is that engaging with fun or uplifting content, like memes, can have a positive effect on one’s mental health and overall well-being, similar to how healthy eating is associated with physical health.”

  “Overall, it emphasizes the importance of humor and positivity in daily life as a way to maintain good health, particularly mental health.”

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• TheRealKuni@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Alas.

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• Vorticity@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’ve tried a few things. It gives back things like “this is a gambled version of this other common saying” or “that statement is nonsensical and is not in common use”.

  It did used to work, though. I tried it a while back and it worked. I think it learned or was manually fixed.

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• Hupf@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You’re saying you’ve never heard the phrase “two dry frogs is a situation”? That’s just a horse cutting it short at the barber!

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• Rusty@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  google.com##:xpath(//h1[text() = “AI Overview”]/following-sibling::div)

  Here’s the custom filter for uBlock origin that hides this useless feature

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• memfree@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Does not work for ANY phrase. It seems to be presuming that the person asking is referencing something. Sample results copied here in order of AI’s least theorizing to its most.

  • horses before giraffes meaning

  “Horses before giraffes” has no scientific meaning because giraffes are not ancestors of horses…

  • put your horses before giraffes meaning

  “Put your horses before giraffes” is not a recognized English idiom. The similar and well-known idiom is “put the cart before the horse,” …

  • always put horses before giraffes meaning

  The phrase “always put horses before giraffes” is a variation of the well-known medical aphorism: “When you hear hoofbeats, think of horses, not zebras”…

  • titrated solutions beget relief meaning

  The phrase “titrated solutions beget relief” means that carefully adjusted or fine-tuned treatments can bring about an end to a problem…

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• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I wouldn’t have noticed since I just ignore the AI bullshit or throw in “fuck” to my search so it doesn’t even bother showing it in the first place.

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• lettruthout@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Confirmed!
  “No window blinds are female.” “The houseplant didn‘t think so.”

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• MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Maybe not anymore.

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• Jhex@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  sounds like urban dictionary when it got enshitified

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• MasterNerd@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I tried to replicate this with Brave’s AI, but it basically just told me I was insane so I guess it’s better

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• Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It won’t explain:
  - “two eggplants in one pot situation” meaning
  - “the 7 fucks from 7 barren fields” meaning
  - “like a stuffed beaver in an museum” meaning
  - “better a dick tater in hand than a diddler on the roof” meaning
  - “two winds is one too many farts in a storm” meaning

  Can someone organically semi-intelligent explain these to me??

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• humanspiral@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  to be fair, I’d assume the same meaning. Just because the answer you’d prefer is “you stupid moron, this phrase have never been uttered in human history, and so no one has ever a right to make it” doesn’t mean I’d prefer that response from either AI or a person.

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• MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Broke: playing ding-dong-ditch or making prank phone calls

  Woke: getting the Google AI to hallucinate the origin story of made up idioms

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• MourningDove@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This just one of the many of reasons that AI is hot garbage. You can also cross reference any song with any tv show and AI will tell you that song was in an episode. It’ll even name the episode… that clearly doesn’t have the song.

  And if at first it doesn’t result in a match, refresh the page. It will. For reference, Woodkid does NOT have any songs in The Blacklist. Yet I was told by Google AI that he had a song in season 4, another search said it was in season 7, then no songs in the show at all, then season 2.

  And we’re trusting this shit in airlines and medical procedures.

  I hope humanity gets sued into non-existence. We’re too fucking stupid to share this planet with animals.

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• pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  matt rose!!!

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• iAvicenna@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “often” like you can do statistics you piece of LLM

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