Intelligent Design

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• finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  Also, Appendicitis is when your Appendix, a vestigial organ which produces small amounts of Vitamin C, randomly explodes and kills you.

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• AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Bro myopia is the least stupid part of our eye design problems. Our retinas are built entirely backwards for no other reason besides evolution making a mistake and then duct taping over it too much to fix it later.

  If your retina was the right way around (like cephalopod eyes) you would have:

  • No blind spots
  • Higher fidelity vision even with the same number of receptors since the nerves and blood vessels wouldn’t interfere like they do now
  • much lower likelihood of retinal detachment since you could attach it for real in the first place
  • possibility for better brightness/darkness resolution since blood supply could be greater without affecting light passage
  • possibility for better resolution because ganglion nerves can be packed more densely without affecting light passage
  • The ability to regenerate cones and rods because you could, again, ACTUALLY HAVE SUPPORT CELLS WITHOUT BLOCKING LIGHT TO THE RETINA

  Our eyes are built in the stupidest way possible.

  Another fun fact: retinol is regenerated by your liver. Not your eyes, not some part of your brain, not some organ near your head like your thalamus which could probably get the job done if it tried, your fucking liver. Your eyes taking a while to adjust to the dark has basically nothing to do with your eyes; it’s because of the delay in adjustment by your fucking liver to produce more retinal, dump it into your vascular system and wait for it to hopefully reach your eyes. Why are we built like this?!

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  • chloroken@lemmy.ml ⁨30⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Did you just see that other post about Cephalopod eye anatomy and write this?

    I ask because you have a poor grasp over what evolution actually is when you say things like “evolution made a mistake”. The truth is that our eyes are one of many, many layouts in the animal kingdom, it’s not some binary thing like you’re making it out to be.

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  • scarilog@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Another fun fact: retinol is regenerated by your liver. Not your eyes, not some part of your brain, not some organ near your head like your thalamus which could probably get the job done if it tried, your fucking liver. Your eyes taking a while to adjust to the dark has basically nothing to do with your eyes; it’s because of the delay in adjustment by your fucking liver to produce more retinal, dump it into your vascular system and wait for it to hopefully reach your eyes.

    This is fascinating, I had no idea that there was another mechanism at play to improve low light vision other than pupil dilation

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    • lordbritishbusiness@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Or that it got stuck in the figurative basement organ where a silly amount of bio-chemistry is stuck because evolution kinda shrugged a few million years ago.

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  • hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Maybe if we eat more cephalopods, our eyes will turn into their good eyes?

    That’s how that works, right?

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    • Onyxonblack@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s how you get a certain pissed-off Elder God to wake up from his dark dreaming down in the sunken ruins of R’lyeh…

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  • Saleh@feddit.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    From the point of intelligent design:

    We see that there is different sensory focuses. For instance many animals can smell and hear much better than humans do. Some animals have exceptionally better eyes than humans, but overall humans are very focused on vision.

    Now when we look at modern inner city environments and the like. Would you think it to be actually better if our senses, particularly our eyes were that much better and delivering even more input to our brains? We already see many people that are overwhelmed in terms of their sensory input and frankly the ones that aren’t still suffer slowly from living in cities. In terms of where we are now, i don’t think it is too bad that we don’t have hawk eyes.

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    • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I live with, work with, and am myself part of, the autistic population. So I gotta agree - sometimes, higher sensitivity is a real detriment.

      It’s not fun being light-sensitive. I’ve had days where I’ve worn sunglasses indoors, with the lights off and curtains closed. The vast majority of my days aren’t that bad, thankfully, but it truly sucks when light causes physical eye pain and headaches. I’ve got a great eye for detail (and have been called “eagle eye” throughout my life), which benefits me in a number of ways, but unfortunately it also means I get distracted by things others don’t notice. I can’t just “ignore” a lot of things, and when those distractions impact me disproportionately, I’m left in the frustrating situation of guiding others to see (or hear, or feel) the things that are super obvious to me - it feels like leading a child by the hand.

      I’m also sensitive to touch (I can’t stand light touch, but I can detect ticks on my skin before they bite) and have the ability to hear novel speech sounds that modern science claims I should’ve lost the ability to detect decades ago (which, okay, is a cool feature to have. But it contributes to being easily-distracted.) All in all, I’ve never known any other way of experiencing the world, but I do know that most people have difficulty understanding my atypical point of view. Which leads to me preferring the company of fellow spectrumites, and others who understand and accept my sensory differences.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      So this intelligent designer decided to fuck our eyes up some weird convoluted way instead of just… making us see less?

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  • dragonfucker@lemmy.nz ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Source that retinal concentration is related to dark adaptation?

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    • AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      I was able to find two case studies showing direct links from vitamin A levels (and liver damage) to night blindness. I’ve edited my initial comment with the links to them.

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    • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m not OP and I’m not an expert, but I know that the production of rhodopsin requires retinal. Rhodopsin is a light-sensitive protein our eyes use to see in low-light conditions, and is essential for our night vision. Retinal and retinol are not the same thing, but they both come from Vitamin A, and convert into each other during the visual cycle. Which means that a deficiency in Vitamin A = a deficiency in retinol, retinal, and rhodopsin, which in effect leads to night blindness.

      But I’d like to know more/get a source for OP’s liver connection. I know most of our retinol is stored in the liver. However, I’m having difficulty verifying their claim that the delay in night vision onset is due to it traveling from the liver to the eyes. From what I can find, the retinol ligand that produces rhodopsin already exists in mammalian eyes (and persists there as part of the aforementioned visual cycle.) So the argument that night vision takes so long because retinol needs to transfer from the liver to the eyes is suspect.

      Unfortunately, search engines absolutely suck these days, and almost every article I can find is behind a fucking paywall. So I’m struggling to find information that can either confirm or deny OP’s claim.

      OP, please provide a source! Inquiring minds want to know more!

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  • Rolder@reddthat.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m reading this with my poorly designed eyes right now!

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    • somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I wish we could use genetics or some interest8ng science to fix this.

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  • ignoble_stigmas@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Can we have an eye transplant from an octopus please? And while we are at it, can we have a couple of tentacles too?

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    • muzzle@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Nope

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    • muzzle@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Nope

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• affenlehrer@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It might be intelligent design but not perfect design. I mean we build stuff with flaws too and consider ourselves intelligent.

  I mean if God or some space alien was really good with biotech and had these parts laying around the result is pretty good. Most humans function for several decades before stuff breaks. The earth is also a pretty stable ecosystem.

  Both much better than we could build.

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  • Phegan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The Christian religion regards God as infallible. So if his designs aren’t perfect either we weren’t designed by him or he isn’t infallible, which breaks Christian doctrine.

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    • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Christian doctrine breaks Christian doctrine

      Also, anyone believing in goat herder fairytales from the year 0 should not be allowed to raise children as you don’t have the intellectual capacity to do so

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    • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      I also subscribe to this ideology. If there is a god, he was never on our side.

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    • justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      He might be infallible, maybe just sadist. You know… Mysterious way and other stuff when one runs out of arguments

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  • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    No, it is not intelligent design.

    Please stop as I’m unsure if you’re joking or not and my patience with idiots is gone.

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• IndustryStandard@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  Someone recently pointed out the bottom left one is because we can see color better with our eye design.

  Are the other ones still valid?

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  • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    “See color better” is because 30+ million years ago one of our ancestors was born with a chromosomal mutation that duplicated the DNA sequence for the red/green cone cells in the retina. That individual had the same color perception as everybody else, but over millions of years the duplicated sequences were able to diverge their peak wavelength receptivities into red and green respectively, allowing better discrimination of colors in that range.

    Interestingly, that individual 30+ million years ago would likely have shown characteristics similar to today’s Down’s Syndrome people, due to the chromosomal duplication. It’s a prime example of why eugenics is so horrifically misguided.

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• ouRKaoS@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This D&D alignment chart is weird…

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  • Nelots@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah, I don’t think I’d put wisdom teeth in lawful good personally.

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• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Evolution: bruh all that matters is that you are a horndog.

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  • Yondoza@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s so weird thinking about how we’re just copying DNA. That’s pretty much the purpose of life; replicate these strange molecules as much as possible. Consciousness is some unintended byproduct of the ‘copy forever’ algorithm.

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    • kureta@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And the contents of the information being copied is basically a recepie for building a machine that can make copies of the information needed to build that machine…

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  • ryedaft@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    dat pelvis 🫦

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• Shamber@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  And amazingly 7 billion of us still breathing and at least half of us think they can better 😂

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• razorcandy@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Optimization was never the goal. It just has to function well enough for a sufficient portion of the species to reproduce.

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  • witty_username@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Evolution is an optimisation process, just a very slow, wasteful and stupid one. It finds local optima which it usually gets stuck in.

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    • shneancy@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      evolution is the epitome of “good enough, ship it!”

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  • EditsHisComments@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Literally the evolutionary equivalent of “eh, good enough”

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    • amotio@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      eh good enough

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• MissJinx@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  no but honestly, periods are great. The feeling when all that extra blood leaves your body is amazing. Guys will never know what it’s like being somewhere and sudenly feeling warmth blood running down your legs out of nowhere. Amazing. 10/10 would ome back as a woman again

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  • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Triggered lmao. A flood of memories just came back like Image.

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  • idiomaddict@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I cannot describe how much I hate this feeling. It’s probably honestly been protective because I have another reason to always use condoms, and even when I’m drunk, I’m still autistic.

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• scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I forget who but a comedian said it well. If we were intelligently designed it was the first design. Why would they ever put the advertisement park right next to the sewage system?

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  • General_Effort@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    George Carlin, I think.

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  • Saleh@feddit.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Plenty of animals have their excretion outlet and their food inlet in the same place.

    For birds the cloaca is both for excretion and sex.

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      ah, the orifice of kings

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  • ronigami@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Same reason they mixed the vestibular system with the vision system. Do you want a different body part for every single body function? That’d be a lot of extra weight and things to take care of.

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  • cornshark@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I feel like if there ever was an advertisement park it would be perfectly placed right next to the sewage system.

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    • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ha, fair. Fixed now

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    • SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      looks at Disney world

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• bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Perfect, mustve been made by an omnipotent being.

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• scytale@piefed.zip ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  What’s the smart nerve taking a detour one?

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  • PunnyName@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recurrent_laryngeal_nerve

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    • Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And it does that for both humans… And giraffes.

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  • apotheotic@beehaw.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Vagus nerve

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    • Midnitte@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Funny they didn’t use a giraffe for that one. It’s like a few inches out of the way for humans - It’s feet for giraffes

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  • Collatz_problem@hexbear.net ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Recurrent laryngeal nerve

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• napkin2020@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Human body is worse than all the JS npm drama shit

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• General_Effort@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Where is Doctor Pangloss when you need him?

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• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Thought that knee diagram was a pelvis at first and was wonder how that was related to sports.

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  • hakunawazo@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Mmh, pelvis sports.
    Image

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• Iceman@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Who the fuck would design ingrown nails??

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• Elgenzay@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The nerve thing bothers me. I wish to learn nothing more of it

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• Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  also the eye development, Cephalapods dont have this weakness, the blindpsot.

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• asteriskeverything@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’m sorry gotta go on a tangent rant I was recently talking to a friend about pregnancy and it is fucking mind boggling. Organs shift, skeleton changes, and then all the crazy chemical stuff going on too.

  The fact that millions of women want this and many experience it more than once is just mind boggling to me.

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  • Lumisal@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Wait till you hear about caterpillars.

    Evolution is one hell of a drug

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• magic_lobster_party@fedia.io ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Also hiccups

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• FuckyWucky@hexbear.net ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  and the whole thing is based around killing and eating one another.

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• witty_username@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  What’s up with the earthquake one?

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• ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Don’t forget “the bush that tells theocratic ephebophiles that it’s no longer pedophilia”!

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