Evolution: bruh all that matters is that you are a horndog.
Intelligent Design
Submitted 2 weeks ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
dat pelvis 🫦
Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
It’s so weird thinking about how we’re just copying DNA. That’s pretty much the purpose of life; replicate these strange molecules as much as possible. Consciousness is some unintended byproduct of the ‘copy forever’ algorithm.
kureta@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
And the contents of the information being copied is basically a recepie for building a machine that can make copies of the information needed to build that machine…
merc@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
It’s so weird thinking about how we’re just copying DNA.
What’s more interesting to me is that we’re not just copying it. We’re taking two strands of DNA and randomly choosing some from each strand. Some animals are clones of their parent, but most are a randomized mix from each parent. The strands are 99% the same, so to a certain extent it’s just copying that molecule, but it’s also trying to perfect that remaining 1%.
Instead of being a way to copy a molecule forever, it’s a way to optimize that molecule. But, what is an optimal molecule? It’s a molecule that contains instructions to generate a creature that has 2 legs, 2 hands, a brain, etc.
MissJinx@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
no but honestly, periods are great. The feeling when all that extra blood leaves your body is amazing. Guys will never know what it’s like being somewhere and sudenly feeling warmth blood running down your legs out of nowhere. Amazing. 10/10 would ome back as a woman again
fossilesque@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I cannot describe how much I hate this feeling. It’s probably honestly been protective because I have another reason to always use condoms, and even when I’m drunk, I’m still autistic.
pipe01@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Ha, nice try. There are no women in Lemmy
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 weeks ago
I forget who but a comedian said it well. If we were intelligently designed it was the first design. Why would they ever put the advertisement park right next to the sewage system?
cornshark@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I feel like if there ever was an advertisement park it would be perfectly placed right next to the sewage system.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 weeks ago
Ha, fair. Fixed now
ronigami@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Same reason they mixed the vestibular system with the vision system. Do you want a different body part for every single body function? That’d be a lot of extra weight and things to take care of.
Saleh@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Plenty of animals have their excretion outlet and their food inlet in the same place.
For birds the cloaca is both for excretion and sex.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
ah, the orifice of kings
General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
George Carlin, I think.
razorcandy@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Optimization was never the goal. It just has to function well enough for a sufficient portion of the species to reproduce.
EditsHisComments@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Literally the evolutionary equivalent of “eh, good enough”
amotio@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
witty_username@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
Evolution is an optimisation process, just a very slow, wasteful and stupid one. It finds local optima which it usually gets stuck in.
shneancy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
evolution is the epitome of “good enough, ship it!”
ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
This D&D alignment chart is weird…
Nelots@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Yeah, I don’t think I’d put wisdom teeth in lawful good personally.
thejoker954@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah, best case scenario it would be chaotic neutral
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Also, Appendicitis is when your Appendix, a vestigial organ which produces small amounts of Vitamin C, randomly explodes and kills you.
AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I heard it’s actually fairly useful for your gut bacteria or smth like that
scytale@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
What’s the smart nerve taking a detour one?
PunnyName@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
And it does that for both humans… And giraffes.
apotheotic@beehaw.org 2 weeks ago
Vagus nerve
Midnitte@beehaw.org 2 weeks ago
Funny they didn’t use a giraffe for that one. It’s like a few inches out of the way for humans - It’s feet for giraffes
Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 2 weeks ago
napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Human body is worse than all the JS npm drama shit
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
Thought that knee diagram was a pelvis at first and was wonder how that was related to sports.
hakunawazo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
You forgot the nose when sleeping! It produces snoring, giving your location and sleep status away to nearby predators!
Flagstaff@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
That’s only the fatties with sleep apnea. Survival of the fittest, nerd! /s
Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I used to argue this stuff online. I had to quit for my sanity. If anyone wants a sample of the absolute insane beliefs and the staggering amount of handwaving these people are capable of, I suggest checking out evolutionfairytale.com. They will unironically claim to be objective, then a sentence later tell you that “proper science literature” is to be discredited because it has a pro-evolution bias. 🤣
Notyou@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
I just took a very brief tour of that website. Apparently symbiotic relationships in nature prove evolution isn’t real… sheesh. I couldn’t get past the giraffe claim that proves there was an intelligent design based on how much blood gets pumped up a giraffe neck.
Iceman@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Who the fuck would design ingrown nails??
scathliath@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
It’s intelligent design; the divine is also just sadistic and a dick.
Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Wisdom teeth were amazing to have back when dental care didn’t exist and our teeth fell out from decay or injuries.
Chakravanti@monero.town 2 weeks ago
Why?
L7HM77@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Because in prehistoric humanity, without the knowledge of toothcare or ease of access to scrubbing agents, your teeth would rot out in old age(about 20), but then the wisdom teeth would grow in, and you might barely live long enough to be a withered old husk and maybe see your grandkids born(about 30). The before times were rough.
amikulo@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Oh, but you forgot that all the problems are because the first woman ate the wrong fruit. The bible says that is why pregnancy hurts. The rest of those problems? Well creation scientists have determined that sin caused those too even though the bible didn’t specify it. They know this because they need it to be the case to keep believing in their mythology.
Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I thought pregnancy hurts because woman number zero decides to go on top, which in return caused woman number one to eat the fruit.
Checkmate, abrahamlcturds.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Someone recently pointed out the bottom left one is because we can see color better with our eye design.
Are the other ones still valid?
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“See color better” is because 30+ million years ago one of our ancestors was born with a chromosomal mutation that duplicated the DNA sequence for the red/green cone cells in the retina. That individual had the same color perception as everybody else, but over millions of years the duplicated sequences were able to diverge their peak wavelength receptivities into red and green respectively, allowing better discrimination of colors in that range.
Interestingly, that individual 30+ million years ago would likely have shown characteristics similar to today’s Down’s Syndrome people, due to the chromosomal duplication. It’s a prime example of why eugenics is so horrifically misguided.
Chakravanti@monero.town 2 weeks ago
As as a homocidal charismatic global suicide?
affenlehrer@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
It might be intelligent design but not perfect design. I mean we build stuff with flaws too and consider ourselves intelligent.
I mean if God or some space alien was really good with biotech and had these parts laying around the result is pretty good. Most humans function for several decades before stuff breaks. The earth is also a pretty stable ecosystem.
Both much better than we could build.
asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m sorry gotta go on a tangent rant I was recently talking to a friend about pregnancy and it is fucking mind boggling. Organs shift, skeleton changes, and then all the crazy chemical stuff going on too.
The fact that millions of women want this and many experience it more than once is just mind boggling to me.
FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 2 weeks ago
and the whole thing is based around killing and eating one another.
Shamber@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
And amazingly 7 billion of us still breathing and at least half of us think they can better 😂
Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
The nerve thing bothers me. I wish to learn nothing more of it
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
also the eye development, Cephalapods dont have this weakness, the blindpsot.
Wilco@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
The nerve going down around the heart artery also applies to the giraffe. It does the exact same thing from brain to heart and around that artery the back up to the throat.
I have seen creationists holding bananas and declaring that they are the perfect size for human hands and proof of intelligent design. DUH … that banana took centuries to design and the fruit company has a patent for designing it.
RickAstleyfounddead@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
Hey, is myopia reversible without surgery? Anyone knows?
magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
Also hiccups
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Don’t forget “the bush that tells theocratic ephebophiles that it’s no longer pedophilia”!
bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 2 weeks ago
Perfect, mustve been made by an omnipotent being.
witty_username@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
What’s up with the earthquake one?
markovs_gun@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The periods one is actually addressed by most creationists. In the book of Genesis, Eve (and consequently, all other women) is punished with the pain of childbirth for falling for the lies of the Serpent, and so most creationists view periods as part of that curse. Pretty messed up but that’s how they see it. The vagus nerve is completely nonsensical under intelligent design but makes complete sense under evolution. The biggest issue I see is why TF God made everything in the universe look exactly like it’s way older than it is. The best argument I can come up with is that it was an epic prank to totally own the libs who find all of this stuff 6,000 years later. Like God is like “Hah you just got pranked you stupid nerd! That’ll teach you to be curious about all the cool shit I made!” To believe in creationism is to believe that a huge swath of scientists across an incredibly broad set of fields are part of the largest conspiracy ever conceived of to try to discredit the Bible, or that God is an evil trickster who intentionally laid this giant trap to damn countless souls to Hell.
AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Bro myopia is the least stupid part of our eye design problems. Our retinas are built entirely backwards for no other reason besides evolution making a mistake and then duct taping over it too much to fix it later.
If your retina was the right way around (like cephalopod eyes) you would have:
Our eyes are built in the stupidest way possible.
Another fun fact: retinol is regenerated by your liver. Not your eyes, not some part of your brain, not some organ near your head like your thalamus which could probably get the job done if it tried, your fucking liver. Your eyes taking a while to adjust to the dark has basically nothing to do with your eyes; it’s because of the delay in adjustment by your fucking liver to produce more retinal, dump it into your vascular system and wait for it to hopefully reach your eyes. Why are we built like this?!
scarilog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is fascinating, I had no idea that there was another mechanism at play to improve low light vision other than pupil dilation
lordbritishbusiness@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Or that it got stuck in the figurative basement organ where a silly amount of bio-chemistry is stuck because evolution kinda shrugged a few million years ago.
hansolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Maybe if we eat more cephalopods, our eyes will turn into their good eyes?
That’s how that works, right?
Onyxonblack@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
That’s how you get a certain pissed-off Elder God to wake up from his dark dreaming down in the sunken ruins of R’lyeh…
Rolder@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
I’m reading this with my poorly designed eyes right now!
somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I wish we could use genetics or some interest8ng science to fix this.
RickAstleyfounddead@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
Does eye excercises fix myopia?
Saleh@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
From the point of intelligent design:
We see that there is different sensory focuses. For instance many animals can smell and hear much better than humans do. Some animals have exceptionally better eyes than humans, but overall humans are very focused on vision.
Now when we look at modern inner city environments and the like. Would you think it to be actually better if our senses, particularly our eyes were that much better and delivering even more input to our brains? We already see many people that are overwhelmed in terms of their sensory input and frankly the ones that aren’t still suffer slowly from living in cities. In terms of where we are now, i don’t think it is too bad that we don’t have hawk eyes.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I live with, work with, and am myself part of, the autistic population. So I gotta agree - sometimes, higher sensitivity is a real detriment.
It’s not fun being light-sensitive. I’ve had days where I’ve worn sunglasses indoors, with the lights off and curtains closed. The vast majority of my days aren’t that bad, thankfully, but it truly sucks when light causes physical eye pain and headaches. I’ve got a great eye for detail (and have been called “eagle eye” throughout my life), which benefits me in a number of ways, but unfortunately it also means I get distracted by things others don’t notice. I can’t just “ignore” a lot of things, and when those distractions impact me disproportionately, I’m left in the frustrating situation of guiding others to see (or hear, or feel) the things that are super obvious to me - it feels like leading a child by the hand.
I’m also sensitive to touch (I can’t stand light touch, but I can detect ticks on my skin before they bite) and have the ability to hear novel speech sounds that modern science claims I should’ve lost the ability to detect decades ago (which, okay, is a cool feature to have. But it contributes to being easily-distracted.) All in all, I’ve never known any other way of experiencing the world, but I do know that most people have difficulty understanding my atypical point of view. Which leads to me preferring the company of fellow spectrumites, and others who understand and accept my sensory differences.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
So this intelligent designer decided to fuck our eyes up some weird convoluted way instead of just… making us see less?
chronotron@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
and so… the “intelligent designer” is, for some reason, restricted from being able to make human brains capable of withstanding the stress from having improved senses
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 weeks ago
Source that retinal concentration is related to dark adaptation?
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m not OP and I’m not an expert, but I know that the production of rhodopsin requires retinal. Rhodopsin is a light-sensitive protein our eyes use to see in low-light conditions, and is essential for our night vision. Retinal and retinol are not the same thing, but they both come from Vitamin A, and convert into each other during the visual cycle. Which means that a deficiency in Vitamin A = a deficiency in retinol, retinal, and rhodopsin, which in effect leads to night blindness.
But I’d like to know more/get a source for OP’s liver connection. I know most of our retinol is stored in the liver. However, I’m having difficulty verifying their claim that the delay in night vision onset is due to it traveling from the liver to the eyes. From what I can find, the retinol ligand that produces rhodopsin already exists in mammalian eyes (and persists there as part of the aforementioned visual cycle.) So the argument that night vision takes so long because retinol needs to transfer from the liver to the eyes is suspect.
Unfortunately, search engines absolutely suck these days, and almost every article I can find is behind a fucking paywall. So I’m struggling to find information that can either confirm or deny OP’s claim.
OP, please provide a source! Inquiring minds want to know more!
AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I was able to find two case studies showing direct links from vitamin A levels (and liver damage) to night blindness. I’ve edited my initial comment with the links to them.
chloroken@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Did you just see that other post about Cephalopod eye anatomy and write this?
I ask because you have a poor grasp over what evolution actually is when you say things like “evolution made a mistake”. The truth is that our eyes are one of many, many layouts in the animal kingdom, it’s not some binary thing like you’re making it out to be.
AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I actually came across this for the first time when I was doing research into the visual pathway for the purpose of trying to structure a spiking neural net more closely to human visual processing.
The Wikipedia page mentions cephalopod eyes specifically when talking about the inverted retina of vertebrates.
The Wikipedia page goes on to explain that our inverted retinas could be the result of evolution trying to protect color receptors by limiting their light intake, as it does appear that our glial cells do facilitate concentrating light.
However, the “positive” effects of the glial cells coming before the receptors could almost certainly be implemented in a non-inverted retina. So that’s the evolutionary duct tape I was mentioning.
It would be difficult to flip the retina back around (in fact since it originates as part of the brain we’d kind of have to grow completely different eyes), so that’s not an option for evolution.
However, slight changes to the glial cells and vasculature of the eyes is definitely more possible. So those mutations happen and evolution optimizes them as best it can.
Evolution did well to optimize a poorly structured organ but it’s still a poorly structured organ.
ignoble_stigmas@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Can we have an eye transplant from an octopus please? And while we are at it, can we have a couple of tentacles too?
muzzle@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Nope
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muzzle@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Nope
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SL3wvmnas@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
TIL,Thank you for dumping obscure biological knowledge!
I felt the same when I found out roughly 90-99 % of serotonin (predecessor) is produced by a certain type of gut bacteria. For some reason, finding the research was (is? Haven’t checked for a few years) for some reason non-obvious and difficult.
Now that I think about it, is there a wiki or something where we can share this knowledge? Your artefact would have helped a friend a few years ago…