Narrator: they monetised the site to death.
Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital
Submitted 5 weeks ago by inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
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flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Won’t monetize to “to death”, just right up to the line of death.
UnrefinedChihuahua@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Define "death."
- Some lawyer, probably.
Atropos@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
'E’s only mostly dead.
drasglaf@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
It’ll always be at 1HP from now on.
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Mod hosting seems to be a great usecase for torrent. It only need a suitable frontend and we are golden.
punkibas@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Someone mentioned this in another thread and I found it interesting:
Ckan kerbal space program mods
Apparently its a frontend for mods that’s hosted on github
msage@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
Github, that’s limiting API calls, hmm…
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Would a federated discovery frontend work? Peertube’s back end of the service would probably work great as a starting point since it uses torrents to ease up on traffic for individual servers
d00ery@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Seems like a good idea. I wonder if there’s anything already similar.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
Hit me up with an addy when you’re on it!
WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Ooh I’ll take some addy too. Been too long and I need to clean my fuckin house.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Reminder that ModDB still exists, and works.
Elevator7009@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
link for lazy folks like myself www.moddb.com
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Sorry, I probably should have included that.
I’ve been modding games and making mods for games since before Nexus or SteamWorkshop or anything even existed… I guess people just genuinely have never even heard of moddb these days, like how gamefaqs is an ‘ancient relic’ or w/e.
SattaRIP@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
Oh so they’ll do it subtly enough to think people won’t notice.
caut_R@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
„Trust me, bro, we won‘t enshitify, please don‘t leave and make something new elsewhere that’s out of our control.“
LostWanderer@lemmynsfw.com 5 weeks ago
Ah, so basically Nexus Mods is dead to me now. Whenever venture capital is injected to anything, it’s a bad sign. I wonder if those Venture Capitalists are from the crypto community…They’ve been souring a lot of potentially cool projects with blockchain/web3 nonsense, like Playtron, for example.
catloaf@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Read the article. They are.
LostWanderer@lemmynsfw.com 5 weeks ago
I did, and my worries were confirmed! I haven’t updated my comment.
Bosht@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
If there was one god damned example of any company saying this and sticking to it I might believe them. But I have yet to be proven wrong. Sucks too as they were my go to for mods.
atticus88th@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
All the examples I could think of have been recent acquisitions… which means they just haven’t soured… yet. Sadly its inevitable.
Buske@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Nexus is dead, Start making a new one.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Easy to say, yet so far most of the other modding sites seem to be content sitting on their butts right now.
Building an alternative would take time. And some money.
JigglySackles@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Maaaaaan. Fuck. I really like Nexus Mods. Get ready for another enshittifying ride to the bottom.
drmoose@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
As a software engineer i always found nexus simply archaic. Hot take but the molding industry might be better off with a new mod index.
hazl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
Here’s how it goes with half the games I mod these days.
- Game not manageable in Vortex out of the box 2. Find the extension that makes the game manageable 3. All popular mods are based on one single mod that acts as a framework or SDK for those other mods 4. That prerequisite mod isn’t well maintained on Nexus, and the author recommends using $otherModManager to manage this game
drmoose@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Funny how all of that is straight up solved with any package manager or even git itself (with submodules) for free and yet gaming community is protecting some proprietary burning heap of garbage.
pory@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The main problem in your setup is you installed Vortex. It and its prior incarnation Nexus Mod Manager have always been a thorn in actual mod developers’ sides. Mod devs can easily tell you where to extract the zip to, and what dependencies you need. Any load order manager type thing will always be better when designed specifically for the game you’re running. Having an “easy one click GUI!!!” doesn’t actually help anybody because modding different games isn’t a universally systematic process.
Blaiz0r@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
It should all be open source.
First thing is mods should just exist on free hosting providers for source code like GitHub/Lab etc.
Then an optional mod manager software that can import mods from these sources.
Non of this really needs a centralised community, these places already exist thanks to other better suited services like social media
clif@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Promise in one hand, shit in the other, let me know which one fills up first.
Buffalobuffalo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Let me just use this promise hand to send you a pic.
30p87@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
Fuck Nexus Mods. You already need an account to download anything.
Forester@pawb.social 5 weeks ago
A free account.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
It’s still an extra barrier. There’s zero point other than tracking what people do.
tal@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
Well, unless someone makes an alternative, people are going to use it.
They do need to provide a lot of bandwidth, which isn’t free, though I wonder how viable it’d be for someone to create a Nexus-like Website using magnet URLs and BitTorrent as a backend.
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
The issue with using torrents is longevity. You’d still want/need traditional storage backing it all. Don’t want some mod to become lost media because nobody is actively seeding it.
Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
There are JS based torrent downloaders. That would work for the normies to get files, but you’d still have to find a way to convince people to host files on the backend. It’d probably take a full-on desktop client wrapper with an embedded torrent client but that’s a pretty hard sell for the average nerd if you’re upfront, and probably a harder sell if you’re dishonest about it.
SolidShake@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
See all these free mods!? They’re just for you to use however you want to!! Pretty awesome right. Just enjoy this .5mbs download. Oh you want faster download speeds? Well… Sir. That will be $12 a month. Evil laugh
altima_neo@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Don’t they already do that?
SolidShake@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That’s the joke
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Tbh, unless you’re downloading a DLC size mod or a big 4K textures pack the installs are nearly instant
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
venture capital
Aaaand it’s gone.
NutWrench@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I think the new owners will fark NexusMods to death and you should start looking for a backup site to host your mods.
aaron@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
Well they’ve promised so that’s that. No story here.
xavier666@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
pinky-promise
Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
They’re definitely gonna monetize it to death.
Gronk@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
Probably a good time to start up a rival mod site that every one will flock too after these guys backpedal on their word.
Something synonymous with Nexus… CapitalMods anyone?
ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I miss Filefront.
LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
This is tragic. I have been on NexusMods since the 2000s. I learned how to mod games because of that site. I will be pouring one out for this landmark of a website after work today. Paid for Lifetime and everything, because the website made it easy to find, install, and update mods for any given game that supported mods. Damn, man. Damn.
Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com 5 weeks ago
Same… this is the swiftest of kicks to the nads…
MufinMcFlufin@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Make it a legally binding contract, otherwise don’t bother promising.
Exusia@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Currently downloading everything to MO2 huehuehue
LiveLM@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
As an outsider to Bethesda modding, given how difficult it looks, I’m surprised to hear this isn’t already a thing.
Gonzako@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
well wabbajack works with nexus (You just buy one month for free autodownloads) but I guess that’ll have to change
ms_lane@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Modding community will never allow it, when Nexus allowed people to keep downloading old mods a bunch of authors decried it since they wanted the ability to remove a mod from the internet forever. It was ‘theirs’ (even though it’s just modified Bethesda data)
Exusia@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I found a couple recommendation lists to “make the game look good” because I dont need all the fancy extras like body mods and weapons and grouped them together in load order, because I knew at some stage I could just package them nicely into a ZIP if I need to uninstall Skyrim for some reason. Glad to see I was ahead of the game
tal@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
It really depends on how one is modding. Bethesda does have their own mod site and in-game support for modding, and that’s pretty straightforward (and the only option on consoles). That will limit what mods are available.
I do kind of wish that there were one cross-platform open-source universal “game mod” program that could support multiple online services.
Bieren@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’ll give it 8 months before it’s dead
ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Pinky promise?
ICastFist@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
I miss FilePlanet. That’s where I got my first Morrowind mods many years ago
At least GameBanana still exists, though there aren’t as many uploads there as Nexus. Still good that there’s an alternative
lechekaflan@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Fileplanet content is back but not how it looks right now.
CalipherJones@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Does anybody remember Cheat Planet or is that just me
DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 5 weeks ago
Jesus fucking Christ, they didn’t sell out to a fucking company! He transferred ownership to two long-time users of the site! There wasn’t even a deal struck, he just said “you’re the owners now!”
lime@feddit.nu 5 weeks ago
how do we know no money was involved? both the new owners apparently work at the same company, which was recently created and is a subsidiary of a vc firm.
DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 5 weeks ago
How do we know there was? How, exactly is one to prove that a transaction didn’t take place? Sure, he, the former owner, could say there wasn’t, but that doesn’t mean anymore or less than what he already has, which is that he believes the new owners share his vision for the site! And at least he picked two people who, to my understanding, have been around Nexus for awhile!
I’m not saying it’s impossible that Nexus enshittifies, and I understand that it’s been a trend lately, but this, as of this moment right now, feels like senseless panic that ought to be saved for when they actually do something wrong! I’ll join the hate wagon when they start brutally monatizing the site or taking IPOs.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Nexus Mods is far too late on the monetization aspect. The restrictions placed on mod downloading sucks, and it hard pushes buying a membership. Not to mention they basically gave up on vortex and its a buggy mess even if you run it native.
GunValkyrie@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
They gave up on vortex to make the nexus mods app. Which is pretty impressive so far. I would recommend reading the articles from the makers of it that discuss how they are making it and why. It’s really interesting.
I have been using the nexus mods app for cyberpunk and it’s really slick and easy.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I wasn’t aware there was a replacement that was suitable. I will have to look into that, thank you.
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I have a bridge to sell anyone who believes that.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Obviously they will. Years down the road. 🤗
MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 5 weeks ago
Translation: “Once all the hub-bub dies down we intend to as slowly as you’ll allow, slip in monetization.”
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Yup we’ve never seen this happen before, not ever. Not once!
/s
MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 5 weeks ago
Exactly! No venture capitalist has ever taken something that could be monetized but wasn’t, bought it out, and then proceeded to monetize it into irrelevancy before…
einlander@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Just the tip, you won’t even feel it.
LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 5 weeks ago
Shortly after we introduce monetisation so terrible, everyone hates it - just to test your pain threshold