Submitted 2 days ago by Showroom7561@lemmy.ca to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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Chrome is one of the first things I disable on my Android devices, and I hate the idea of signing up for any accounts just to access local files.
But Canon welcomed me with a big surprise, and a fuck you, too!
I’ll never buy products\brands that do this kind of shit. Never.
I worry a day will come it’s all of them.
The problem is, you don’t always know thwy will do this until after you pay your money for them.
True. But doing your homework prior to a purchase is more important than ever.
bye bye Canon. You were once the light of my photographic life - now you’re dead to me for pulling this bullshit.
Firefox doesn’t support WebUSB, Web Bluetooth and several other integrations, so applications that need to connect to other devices need some kind of Chrome application. Massive dick move by forcing account creation tho.
Firefox doesn’t support WebUSB, Web Bluetooth and several other integrations, so applications that need to connect to other devices need some kind of Chrome application.
If those features in the browser were needed, I could be a little less infuriated (they didn’t have to break previously working features, though).
However, Chrome was needed only to sign up and log in. Once that was done, I was able to disable chrome, and the app continued to work after restarting it.
Why they couldn’t implement a log in directly in the app, or use the device webview api, is beyond me.
I’m just waiting for that WebAntivirus support to land in chrome, for all those websites that tell you to install an antivirus.
Forward it to Louis Rossman. He’ll make an entire video about it and add it to the wiki tracking these scummy companies.
I agree with pretty much all of that guy’s takes, but he REALLY sketches me out for some reason. I don’t know what it is.
I cannot stand him. I agree with the broad idea of his message, but Jesus he’s insufferable and constantly feels like he’s talking down to his audience
He’s a libertarian with the “Democrat and Republicans are the same picture” vibes to him.
Maybe cause he’s on the spectrum and you are picking up on that
I agree with him on a lot of the tech stuff, but there’s some subtle hints of shit that I can’t consciously place that really bother me.
I really started to notice it when he was looking for a new location - the way that he talked to and about some people and things in those videos bothered me. Likewise, the way he moved to a red state because it meant he could pay less in taxes and shit. There’s something more but I can’t put my finger on it.
He’s a new Yorker
He acts like a somethingawful/4chan veteran. Every now and then something along those lines slips out and rubs me the wrong way too.
Like he’s often the good kind of libertarian, but occasionally also the bad kind.
I’d say the only thing ‘sketchy’ about Rossman is that he’s a normal human being.
It’s rare to see someone independent in our homogenized society. It makes sense that someone like you would be afraid of them.
Glad I’m not alone on that. I love reading about him, but I can’t watch his videos.
The youtuber Adam Something is like that too imo
Same, not sure why. Maybe I heard something about him I didn’t like, but have since forgotten.
I heard he was entertaining the thought of turning his role in Tropic Thunder into a full spinoff movie.
Canon is on my personal blacklist for decades. I bought a printer from them, not just a normal A4/legal, but a professional, wide one that uses rolls of paper, etc. I was unhappy with the state of the driver under Linux, so I called and asked for a programming documentation to write my own printer driver. Their opinion on Linux/open source was that “open source is theft of intellectual property”.
I wonder how many open source libraries their driver codebase relies on, it had best be zero with that attitude.
They had no Linux driver back then at all, but there were some rudimentary from the community that printed Ok. They just did not support special printing modes, which i wanted to add.
Their opinion is stupid, but I’m also not sure what you expected when you asked some random sales rep for deep technical info.
I contacted both technical support for commercial systems and later their booth on a big technical trade fair (CeBit Hannover), and got basically the same opinion both times. The first was definitely no “Sales Rep”, and the people at the booth were a manager and an engineer.
But I agree, their opinion is stupid.
Well, in a commercial space, at least if you’re big enough, asking sales reps for deep tech info is the norm. They are supposed to find an engineer and get them to answer.
If you’re a big enough customer, you set the norms.
I’d just return and leave a bad review lol
“Yes, I’d like to return this camera because it’s an invasive piece of shit”
I have returned printers for requiring an internet connection out of spite.
Dude. I needed to use this app the other day for the remote shutter function, and I was somewhere with no signal and no internet. Only to discover that the app had updated and now required me to create an account to use it. I was pissed.
Same thing!! It sure steamed my broccoli.
mmmm steamed broccoli. drools
Yes indeed, I just wrote a rant about this in the Canon community on there.
The two edges of this sword: All of the functionality worked in the previous edition of the app without the “mandatory” account. The upshot of this is, if you grab an APK of the previous (3.2.40.36) version of the app it still works just fine sans account, because the requirement is completely artificial and your camera’s hardware has not changed.
That’s what I did for now, but given that I only ever used the damn thing as an overwrought remote shutter button when doing macrophotography (you’ll never guess the subject), I just bought $6 aftermarket remote release and moved on with life.
All apps are crap.
you’ll never guess the subject
Close, but it could arguably be something compensating for the same!
The two edges of this sword: All of the functionality worked in the previous edition of the app without the “mandatory” account. The upshot of this is, if you grab an APK of the previous (3.2.40.36) version of the app it still works just fine sans account, because the requirement is completely artificial and your camera’s hardware has not changed.
Thank you for confirming! I do this with the GoPro Quik app, and I’d have no problem doing it here.
I have a Sony compact camera with built-in GPS. The newer models require the app for live geotagging. These are the games I refuse to play.
Thanks for the heads up. It’s version code 77 when downloading manually from Aurora Store in case anyone else is wondering. Please blacklist Canon Camer Connect after installing it to avoid further updates.
I use it to transfer images to my computer so I don’t have to pull out the sd card. But the tip with the apk is good, will do that too
Thank you for the version number! I was just lamenting not being able to find it.
Well canon seems like a product to avoid. This person shouldn’t now know better for their future purchases l.
magiclantern.
Jailbreak your shit. You own it don’t you?
Magic Lantern is awesome!
Unfortunately, it’s for higher-end cameras, not my old point-and-shoot cameras. And it doesn’t magically give your device GPS for geotagging images :(
The app was fine. The enshittification of the app is not.
Can you not just find and use an old version and disable updates for it?
Jailbreaking locks you out of banking apps.
I don’t think people are out here doing their banking on their Canon DSLRs
Maybe on Apple (?), bur GrapheneOS supports my banking apps just fine. The only thing missing is Google Pay, which I don’t use anyways
This is a useless comment.
Says the person who randomly brought up phones when the other person was talking about a camera jailbreak.
And isn’t that just exactly what they count on?
Yup, sucks. What I do is just take out the card a plug it into a little USB dongle thing which I can plug into either my phone or laptop.
Also faster than the app too. The app uses WiFi or Bluetooth. Its also annoyingly finicky to connect tk the camera.
What I do is just take out the card a plug it into a little USB dongle thing which I can plug into either my phone or laptop.
What’s wild to me is that anyone would do it any other way. I’m astounded that this is somehow a “tip”.
Not even 10 years ago it was simply the way to do it.
Depends on your workflow.
As an example, if I’m in a studio and have a camera set up a certain way, it’s highly inconvenient to have to turn it off, pull the card out (which can mean removing it from the tripod if the card slot is on the bottom of the camera), plug it into a phone or laptop, copy the image, load the image for review, eject the card, reinsert the card, set the camera up again…
I mean, holy shit.
Why do that when you can tap the gallery through the app (already connected because you’ve got live view going), click on the photo, open it for review, keep shooting.
Of course, if you’ve shot a big day and have to offload 100gb of photos and video, an external card reader is the only way to go.
But for studio, live sessions, or quick shots, app transfer is so much easier. Some cameras have NFC, so you just tap your phone and start the transfer.
None of this has ever been a problem. It’s the requirement to have a connected account that makes it a problem.
Advantage of using the app: Remote shutter/control.
Very convenient if you take lunar photos.
Yeah but the app also does remote control / viewing. The transfer is a bonus of being able to quickly do the transfer and text it to someone right away.
Of course, none of this matters because I don’t have Chrome on my new phone and can’t even create the stupid account if I wanted to.
Also, can’t find information about which version they rolled that out in and get an older version.
Cables are better but they have a minimum time to setup and can be inconvenient if you do it while traveling. If you just need a quick transfer then using an app or wireless transfer is better.
I don’t have much experience with cameras but isn’t it usually sd cards that you can pull out and transfer using a sd reader? Does the camera have internal storage that needs an account and app?
For data transfer only, yes, you can eject the SD card and copy your files.
But the app is used for other features, too. So you’re inconvenienced no matter what feature you use.
Yeah I guessed that much but your original post was a bit confusing as it doesn’t mention the app. Hence the question.
In order to access my tax and benefit accounts on the Government of Canada website I can only use Chrome … making sure to wipe all cookies, etc afterwards.
I freaking hate shite like this.
Is that through the CRA website? I’ve been able to access it on Firefox (through Linux) without being hassled.
But yeah, websites that force you to use Chrome would get on my nerves. I’d be sandboxing that entire browsing session, too. LOL
the CRA website? I’ve been able to access it on Firefox (through Linux) without being hassled.
Same here.
Maybe they’ve got some privacy plug-ins that are preventing the CRA website from functioning properly?
In the past, I have had to add my bank and some government websites to my whitelist
I’m pretty sure that duckduckgo browser is based on Chromium. That should work in Chrome’s stead.
Chrome or chormium?
In terms of the chrome only thing, you can probably use a UA switcher on firefox and it will probs let you in. It’s probably just checking your user agent, nothing more.
It actually wanted the chrome app to be enabled and only opens the chrome app for the sign up/log in process.
So a user agent switch wouldn’t have helped in this case.
Firefox doesn’t support WebUSB and Web Bluetooth on any platform.
on my camera i can plug it directly into my phone and transfer it with a usbc cable
You’ll end up with better quality images this way compared to transferring them to Canon servers where they’ll likely be compressed or altered.
I rolled back the app to an older version before this was required and blocked it from network or updating. The only feature I use is the gps data over bluetooth and remote shutter. Canon can go F*** themselves with this nonsense
Oh that’s too bad. Guess I’m not buying that shit.
Hey fellow canon man - lemm.ee/post/60130414
😀😀😀 Looks like I missed the memo on Lemmy 🤭🤭
There seems to be a common thread amongst all the Japanese camera manufacturers that their software is all “this must be done in exactly this (often convoluted) way”.
I’m convinced that they put their hardware engineers in charge of writing the software.
At least it no longer requires Internet Explorer.
Canon still exists? People still use dedicated cameras? I found Canon hardware to be overrated, scanners to cameras to printers. All shit in one way or another. And their software, my god, the cruft.
Trebuchet > Canon
A tip: you can build your own camera using a Raspberry Pi. There are kits. There are lenses and sensors which impress.
I’ve been running across sites that demand I use Chrome on PC too, a non-starter since Google “upgraded” Chrome to prevent adblock use. I’ve occasionally used User Agent Switcher for Firefox: addons.mozilla.org/en-US/android/…/uaswitcher/. Works on both PC and phone.
Like Nvidia forces you to create an account to download your DRIVERS. Why??
Are you sure? Thats not acceptable for most professionals so i doubt there is no way around it. Whats the modelname of your camera?
Shit, no more Canon then.
Vendor software is always a pile of shame. Can’t you just copypaste images or use something like Shotwell’ import for convenience?
They’ve really gone downhill since the AE-1.
Flickerby@lemm.ee 1 hour ago
Is there something about Chrome specifically that’s no bueno nowadays? I haven’t heard anything but to be fair I don’t really keep myself in that loop too much now
CompassRed@discuss.tchncs.de 1 hour ago
There’s a general negative attitude towards chromium browsers due to some anticompetitive practices pulled by Google in addition to privacy concerns and probably some more issues I’m not aware of. So that includes chrome, but also edge and most other chromium based browsers.
Flickerby@lemm.ee 1 hour ago
Ah okay, I hadn’t heard about any of that, very good to know, thank you
Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 48 minutes ago
I don’t want any of my business being shared with Google, including the fact that I use Canon products. It’s just yet another data point for them to weaponize via targeted ads and data brokering.
And simply opening Chrome means that a data siphon to Google was just opened, so telemetry data would have been collected immediately.