Hot air cooled, contracted, and created partial vacuum is my guess. Make it hot again and it will unstick, I bet.
My ravioli bowl won't unstick. Took about an hour of prying, and still I couldn't unstick the plate.
Submitted 5 weeks ago by HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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hperrin@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I was gonna suggest just running hot tap water over it for a few minutes until the air inside expanded enough.
nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 5 weeks ago
Cool one slightly while warming the other.
echo@lemmings.world 5 weeks ago
Probably sit the bowl in warm water with ice on the plate. That will increase the pressure inside and aide in the separation.
wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Would you want the opposite?
I thought heading the bowl will expand it slightly and increase the suction, cooling it will shrink it and reduce it.
tomi000@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Why would you want to cool the plate?
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
No, warm the whole thing to heat the air inside
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The McDLT solution
MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Someone slept through physics class a few times.
Heat and/or cold would be your friend in this situation.
Personally I would just toss the whole thing in the freezer for the night, but there is a small chance that results in a broken plate in the morning.
If you have an air compressor a blast of air right against the lip of the bowl would probably also pop it off.
Other than that just run hot water over the bowl (or submerge it) and then get the plate cold while being careful to not have the hot water touch the cold plate or visa versa.
Best of luck soldier.
seejur@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Wouldnt be the opposite? What’s keeping the plates together is vacuum. What it needs is to heat the gas inside to make it expand and reduce the vacuum
MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Let me walk you through my 3 different answers.
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Shrinking the bowl and the plate at the same time might just pop the seal when left in the freezer all night. It would only take a couple Crystal forming in the right spot to break that seal.
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Blasting air into the seal could potentially resolve the pressure difference holding the bowl to the plate or force enough air into the bowl that it actually builds positive pressure inside and that pops the bowl off as well.
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Heating the bowl would get it to expand slightly and cooling the plate would make it shrink slightly so doing them at the same time could cause the perfect seal they have formed to shift enough that it allows the pressure to equalize/release.
It’s less about heating the gas inside the bowl to reverse the vacuum and it’s more about breaking the seal that has formed in the first place.
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HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The plastic was fused to the glass some how. I pryed it off and salvaged the plate. Also, I already tried all of that.
MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Oh you melted the plate to the bowl lol. That’s kinda impressive. It does make me wonder if your bowl was not dishwasher safe to begin with. Things shouldn’t be melting/fusing in the dishwasher.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Put the whole thing in a pot of water and start bringing it to a slow simmer. This will warm the air inside, expanding it and breaking the suction. I got my stuck blender jar open this way, taking it out as soon as the first tiny bubble escaped and quickly unscrewing it before it could cool.
sbf@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
Hot ass water
admin@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Can I use regulat hot water if I don’t have access to the ass water?
LikeTearsInTheRain@lemmynsfw.com 5 weeks ago
No, it must be from the ass.
sbf@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
Nope. It has to come straight from the starfish
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
Ass water can easily made yourself. No need to get expensive store bought ass water
tomcatt360@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Instructions unclear, bowl still stuck to plate, but is now covered in sexy posterior dihydrogen monoxide.
prex@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
tooclose104@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
My water is too bougie and I can’t morally exploit it into poverty… Elevated plate it is.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Why does he need to rob the hot water first?
sbf@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
It had it coming
FreeBeard@slrpnk.net 5 weeks ago
The power of suction is physically limited. That means it either isn’t suction or op is crazy weak. My guess is that the plastic melted (probably not from boiling Temp) or op is strongly exaggerating.
arin@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Air pressure is insanely high compared to a vacuum
FreeBeard@slrpnk.net 5 weeks ago
The pressure acts over the area of contact. For a perfect vacuum it would lead to ~1kN of force. This is the same order of magnitude our muscles produce. If you take into account that the vacuum results from cooling over such a small temperature interval the force can’t be too high.
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The power of suction is physically limited.
Someone has never heard of Delta P.
FreeBeard@slrpnk.net 5 weeks ago
It’s delta p and not fraction p. The difference between ambient pressure and inner pressure (at least zero) is always smaller than ambient pressure. Delta p is therefore limited.
meekah@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The delta P you’re talking about has much much higher ambient pressure than what is the case here.
And even underwater there is a limit to delta P.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
yeah it’s probably electromagnetic force holding it on there or something
XeroxCool@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
How do you figure suction is very limited? You’ve never tried to pull a suction cup straight off, have you? I’m not talking about when suction cups have bad sealing surfaces and slowly leak to the point of popping off or peeling suction cups off from a corner, I’m talking applying it to a good surface and then yanking it.
A shoddy 4.5" suction cup from Harbor Freight is rated at 80lbs carrying capacity for glass, which happens to likely be the same material as the dish (corelle), judging form the thinness. The bowl is probably plastic and had weight on it while these were hot and wet after washing. Please, let me know if you can lift an 80lb dumbell from the end with a single hand with ease.
FreeBeard@slrpnk.net 5 weeks ago
The difference between ambient pressure and inner pressure is always smaller than ambient pressure. Delta p is therefore limited. The force comes from Delta p times contact area which is constant.
I sadly don’t know your units of mass but as I said a perfect vacuum over an area such as the Bowl is as strong as a muscle. The Ravioli will in no world produce a strong vacuum so muscle will win in most cases.
BullishUtensil@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
@FreeBeard separates evacuated Magdeburger hemispheres by hand.
/s
FreeBeard@slrpnk.net 5 weeks ago
These are 50 cm wide half spheres. If you find that comparable to the situation in the picture your appetite must be enormous.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
it’s a bowl, it’s like trying to pick up a gold bar, how are you meant to get ANY leverage on it without using a knife or something?
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
By “ravioli bowl,” do you mean it currently has ravioli in it? If so, put it in the microwave for increments of like 30 seconds.
Red_October@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Pick which one to save and which one to sacrifice. Smash the sacrifice with a hammer to free the other, break them both and realize this is just so like you and every single thing you try to do starts with a half baked plan, then goes off the rails and ruins everything until you’ve nothing to do but pick up the pieces.
Dicska@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’m the kind of person who reads step 1, does it, and then goes on to read step 2. I’m happy I’m not OP.
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
The mildlyinfuriating part is that OP hasn’t posted a resolution.
WhyFlip@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That really sucks.
LimpRimble@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
an hour of prying
After that much work you should leave is as-is on your coffee table as an art/conversation piece.
jerkface@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
OP you monster, we need resolution.
Jrockwar@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
I also think heating everything up is the smoothest solution. But to offer an alternative, I’d use dental floss to get in between the bowl and plate. If the bowl has slightly rounded edges (I believe it will), it won’t be too hard to get floss in. With the floss you’ll get inevitably some air in… Which will equalise the pressure and break the vacuum.
As an inferior alternative to floss, fishing line could work for this approach as well.
endeavor@sopuli.xyz 5 weeks ago
Can also use knife
frunch@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I feel like this would cause a mild explosion. Not based on any real science, i just imagine that if it’s stuck that good there’s gonna be a more-than-satisfying pop when those finally separate, lol
That said, i really like your solution ✨
False@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Implosion and very very mild, but technically yes
Tangent5280@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Hey, if you’re using the hot bowl trick, make sure you pay attention to it; if you leave it to get hot and forget, it will be even harder to unstick it because the escaping hot air inside will make a partial vacuum when it cools down.
Smokeydope@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Assuming its empty, i would take the grog oggah boogah solution of smash the blue plastic bowl down the edge of your countertop. Something will give sometime.
Otherwise, did you try twisting the bowl super hard? Torque is typically a more effective force than pulling for friction.
softcat@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
were you able to free the raviolis
DicJacobus@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
congrats you now have an elevated plate
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I’m gonna need an update when OP does the hot bowl trick, I wanna know if it worked
HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I pryed it open with a knife. Eventually. And wasted the ravioli.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Drill a small hole in the bottom of the bowl to equalize the pressure.
NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 5 weeks ago
Trepanning is the solution to many of life’s problems.
sanguinepar@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That would have worked if you hadn’t stopped me.
HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Now that is a great idea /s
SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’m so glad you used the sarcasm mark or that would have gone completely over my head.
Trihilis@ani.social 5 weeks ago
I have no idea what I’m looking at. Wth is a ravioli bowl? A bowl made specifically for ravioli?
HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Bowl of ravioli, my bad
Natanael@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
Heat it to make the air expand
Steve@startrek.website 5 weeks ago
Microwave it on its side.
Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Like, a bowl is stuck to a plate?
Put the bowl in warm water, put ice on the plate. It’ll release within a few minutes
liquefy4931@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Plastic bowl. Squeeze it.
Archangel1313@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Just smash. It will be satisfying.
Lemjukes@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
That bottom bowl looks plastic, just push on the side gently to try and break the seal around the other dish.
tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
did you melt it?
rumschlumpel@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
Reminds me of when I tried doing some cocktails with a boston shaker (two metal tins). It’s pretty easy to get those stuck - since metal bends it’s probably easier to get then unstuck than a ceramic bowl, but the cocktail is probably ruined after you have been trying to get the tins unstuck for a couple of minutes. Plus the potential spillage.
Lupus@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
I don’t know if you did that, but for anybody struggling with those:
You’re supposed to put them together at an angle, so that the outer wall of the tins forms one straight line from top to bottom. Like this:
Tin tin shaker fixed at an angle
To open it you take them into one hand, hold them on the side where they form the straight line. Then take your other hand and gently smack against the part where the both tins connect.
Here:
Since tin tins are hard to break (though not impossible I can tell from experience) you could also use a hard surface and more force if needed.
If they’re still stuck, let some warm water run on where they connect and try again. Although the drink might get watery if you take too much time.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
Yeah, I did those. What helped me was using very little pressure when putting the tins together, barely enough to create a seal. Some guides suggest pushing them together with a smack to create a seal, which is rather counterproductive when your issue is not being able to open it quickly.
Etterra@discuss.online 5 weeks ago
You could try to get a fillet knife between them, if the hot water trick won’t work.
Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
No one is going to mention that OP has a bowl specifically for ravioli?
idiomaddict@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I think it’s just a bowl currently full of ravioli
PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
No issues with either one of these options tbh
apex32@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Well how do you cook ravioli? In your fettuccine bowl?
SlapnutsGT@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Pour it onto a dish rag and microwave it? I thought this was common knowledge?
klemptor@startrek.website 5 weeks ago
…in a pot?
Diddlydee@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
I’m confused why there is a plate involved at all.
sartalon@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I would guess he had the plate over the bowl, while he was microwaving it, to prevent the little sauce splatters during heating.