Why would the US need scientists when they have stable geniuses?
Depart, men of education.
Submitted 2 months ago by fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com to science_memes@mander.xyz
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cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
etchinghillside@reddthat.com 2 months ago
AI will fix it.
veroxii@aussie.zone 2 months ago
OpenAI promised us PhD agents! Only 20k a month!
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The US is trading science and reason for zeal and faith. At least the scientists will be welcomed in the EU.
notgold@aussie.zone 2 months ago
Why did they leave the EU in the first place
Redex68@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Most probably money
juanito_the_great@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I seriously considered at some point, in my (former) field many top researchers lived in Philly, New York, Boston + Toronto. Becoming a top researcher means travelling where other top researchers are.
Eventually decided it was not worth it for me (had other priorities in life), but this is a sacrifice many EU researchers make (or should I say, made) to become top researchers.
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Operation Paperclip back in the day. Grants and such recently.
oxideseven@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
This is the bobiverse future…
dis_honestfamiliar@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
Didn’t Albert Einstein flee Nazi Germany which advanced our research into what became the atomic bomb. Hmm… Should be fun century for USA.
monarch@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Hoping that they flee to somewhere that leads to fusion energy and not cheap rods of god.
fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
Rods from God require space infra no one has and won’t for a long while
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Trump has already dismantled the American empire. The decline will be rapid and terminal. Even if they returned to sanity tomorrow, the damage cannot be undone any time soon. Nobody is going to trust the US again in our lifetimes.
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Oh no, all the trust america built up is suddenly gone…
When will america be the worlds best step dad again!
Taleya@aussie.zone 2 months ago
Tbh he’s just finishing off a process decades in the making.
Zink@programming.dev 2 months ago
How dare you point out something so relevant and foreboding.
rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Scientists left nazi germany for the US, now they’ll leave nazi US.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Also nazi usa took in nazi “scientists”.
Loce@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Time for scientists to leave the nazi country, just like they left nazi Germany in the 30s and 40s
proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Damned scientists. Eerywhere they go, the place turns into nazi shithole
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Not to mention the nazi scientists… Nobody wants to talk about them…
algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
Y’all act like this wasn’t the plan all along
prex@aussie.zone 2 months ago
We need a name for the opposite of operation paperclip.
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Leaf blower
Paperclips hold papers together. Leaf blower blows them all over the place
Michal@programming.dev 2 months ago
Operation crayon
Sphks@jlai.lu 2 months ago
Operation destapler
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Operation braindrain
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
I hope he’s already put of the country before he posted that, or he’ll be stopped and disappeared for being a security risk or something
amos@mander.xyz 2 months ago
Why is this in the “memes” community? It is not a meme, is it? We should have a general discussion community for topics like these! (if it doesn’t exist already).
fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Check the sidebar.
i_love_FFT@jlai.lu 2 months ago
In the context of Dawkins meme, this post id definitely a meme!
idea, behavior, or style that spreads by means of imitation from person to person within a culture and often carries symbolic meaning
If we consider scientists imitating the behavior of other scientists (ex: leaving the us) combined with the social network post (signifying the symbolic meaning), it checks all the correct boxes to me!
Would another peer review my analysis?
amos@mander.xyz 2 months ago
I stand corrected! Thank you!
Hirom@beehaw.org 2 months ago
Good point. That person’s solidarity with a colleague is remarkable and probably worth sharing, but it’s not a meme.
xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
all pictures with text are “memes” now
RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
To annoy you specifically.
Boomkop3@reddthat.com 2 months ago
Welcome to Europe! You get to keep your healthcare plans into retirement!
Bosht@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Pediatric. Oncologist. That dude is an absolute hero and treasure for taking on such a horrible and bleak profession. I hate that those words are combined in existence at all. God I’m so ashamed to be an American.
Necroscope0@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Some people are built different. My dad worked as a pediatric hospice nurse for almost 10 years. Talk about a shitty sad job. Every single patient is a child and every single one of them is GOING to die on your watch. Fuck THAT. I do not know how he did it.
shawn1122@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I figure we have to have some angels to balance out the demons that end up in positions of prominence in our societies.
Boomkop3@reddthat.com 1 month ago
Now that is a hero
Gladaed@feddit.org 2 months ago
They are just doctors. No need to glorify them. They do no more or less than a bus driver. Most jobs have an emotional toll.
Angelusz@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Let’s agree to disagree. I respect bus drivers as much as you do. Some people, however, have a greater positive effect on humanity as a whole, and that deserves its own form of respect.
blackn1ght@feddit.uk 2 months ago
I’d have to imagine that the stress and emotional toll is significantly higher for a paediatric oncologist than a bus driver. There’s not so many people that could cope with that.
barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Good to know. Next time I have a medical issue, I’ll ask my bus driver for a diagnosis. What are your thoughts on subway drivers or Uber drivers?
misteloct@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Agreed, I would be equally angry if a bus driver were detained by ICE. Their immigrants status and then solidarity is more important than their profession.
shawn1122@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Having known several healthcare workers with PTSD from the pandemic I strongly disagree.
Granted the pandemic was traumatizing for people from all walks of life but I don’t envy hospital based nurses or doctors from that time.
It was so painful for nurses that many quit and we still have a nursing shortage today and likely for the next decade as a result.
Boomkop3@reddthat.com 1 month ago
You’re right though. We don’t need healthcare
Kage520@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Different energy. Bus driver has to deal with many potentially grumpy people in many potentially unsafe areas. Not an easy job.
A doctor that is specifically specializing in a field where he has to get to know and take care of children as they die in a potentially painful way, has a much different challenge. Less for safety or aggressive people (though maybe parents could be I guess) but more in being the one to watch as the hope fades for each individual child in their last days.
I wouldn’t love the bus driving job. I don’t think I could do the pediatric oncology one for more than like, one patient ever. I’d be depressed forever.
rocky1138@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Why use Meta when Mastodon is available? The less we all use corporate social media the more resilient we become.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You have to keep evangelizing. They’ve likely never heard of it.
fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
Exactly. We need to get really obnoxious with the promotion
Comment105@lemm.ee 2 months ago
It’s pretty likely they’ve heard of it as a niche option, as a forgettable factoid years ago.
Then they may also have learned it’s a very small platform and something about decentralization.
if they went to sign up regardless, it seems likely they didn’t end up picking an instance. (Possibly having left the page open, briefly looked up Mastodon instances and read a few sentences, then moved on to something else.)
Now that they wouldn’t have had to pick an instance, they’ve long forgotten about it, maybe you could get them to try the normalized sign up process.
But anyone who knows anything about people knew from the start that Mastodon wasn’t really even aiming for successful growth. Of course the instances were gonna be a roadblock.
stray@pawb.social 2 months ago
You have to say that on Meta if you want them to read it.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
B/c these people are just libs.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Brain Drain time.
jsomae@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
and women
Comment105@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Of course.
I’ll mention you probably missed the Depart men(t) of Education wordplay in the title.
SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 2 months ago
And the children, too.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
is the title a pun on “depart-ment of education”?
Birch@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
It’s from a presidential directive for dissolving the “Departmen of Education”
CheetahPitah@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
It does appear to be so.
Apple87sagan@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This is a sign we are collapasing. When the smart people wanna leave we are left with a bunch of narrow minded, uneducated people.
OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
I work in big tech. 10 years ago, nobody was talking about going back to India, Pakistan, and to an extent, China. Now, people are talking about it. They’re talking about Indian stocks, Indian houses, and dreams of retiring to go back.
Most people aren’t - but the number is now non-zero.
werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s okay to do the same to poor Latinos. But catch a scientists and I’m out of here!
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
It completely not, obviously. But it’s unreasonable to ask the not-yet-disappeared poor Latinos to draw ICE attention to themselves, and those already caught in the orphan-crushing machine can’t access social media.
These legally-documented scientists are the people who CAN speak out and the loss of whom might matter to those whose worldview is entirely transactional.
werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Just saying, even this argument is a double standard. But OK. You gotta draw the line somewhere.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
brain drain
TDCN@feddit.dk 2 months ago
🎶 So long, and thanks for all the fish 🎶
daw@feddit.org 2 months ago
Depart, [people] of education.
abbadon420@lemm.ee 2 months ago
PanArab@lemm.ee 2 months ago
While it is not the point, I am curious if his colleague is white or not. Is ICE targeting all foreigners or just the non-white-Europeans?
xye@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Extremely sad news, this is what an authoritarian state looks like for anyone who still didn’t believe it. Wish them all the best wherever they land.
Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Based if real
alzymologist@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Haha, did this months before trump the first, enjoying early start fruits!
usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Might have been working on the US to long.
smokinliver@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Wont last long until only the abolutely immoral scientists remain that are willing to experiment on political prisoners.
podperson@lemm.ee 2 months ago
“Too” well
KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Replacing education with idiots. The perfect republican scenario.
TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml 2 months ago
Any form of alliance with the U.K. should be chucked out the window then…
rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
It seems like the administration is trying to discourage travel across the border. Not just people on work visas, tourists and even citizens are reporting being detained. It’s like East Germany or something.
anytimesoon@feddit.uk 2 months ago
Citizens too? I’ve not heard of that. Scary
rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Yeah, I read it yesterday I think. US citizen lives in Las Vegas and her German boyfriend comes to visit. They travel to Mexico and then were both detained on the way back in. She was released within days, he spent weeks even after volunteering to just go back to Germany. Fucking nuts.
normal_user@lemmygrad.ml 2 months ago
Capitalists doing capitalism is like communism ?
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
This isn’t capitalist doing capitalism.
It is fascist capitalist doing a dictatorship, which is eerily similar to some forms of communism
Boomkop3@reddthat.com 1 month ago
Neither of those have to do with what’s described there, this is heading towards fascism
Boomkop3@reddthat.com 1 month ago
Hold up, tourists? Are we safe to visit family?
rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Bruh, ask your consulate