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Depart, men of education.

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It seems like the administration is trying to discourage travel across the border. Not just people on work visas, tourists and even citizens are reporting being detained. It’s like East Germany or something.

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    • anytimesoon@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Citizens too? I’ve not heard of that. Scary

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      • rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah, I read it yesterday I think. US citizen lives in Las Vegas and her German boyfriend comes to visit. They travel to Mexico and then were both detained on the way back in. She was released within days, he spent weeks even after volunteering to just go back to Germany. Fucking nuts.

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    • normal_user@lemmygrad.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Capitalists doing capitalism is like communism ?

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      • Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        This isn’t capitalist doing capitalism.

        It is fascist capitalist doing a dictatorship, which is eerily similar to some forms of communism

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      • Boomkop3@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Neither of those have to do with what’s described there, this is heading towards fascism

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    • Boomkop3@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Hold up, tourists? Are we safe to visit family?

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      • rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Bruh, ask your consulate

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  • cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why would the US need scientists when they have stable geniuses?

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    • etchinghillside@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      AI will fix it.

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      • veroxii@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        OpenAI promised us PhD agents! Only 20k a month!

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  • ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The US is trading science and reason for zeal and faith. At least the scientists will be welcomed in the EU.

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    • notgold@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Why did they leave the EU in the first place

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      • Redex68@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Most probably money

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      • juanito_the_great@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I seriously considered at some point, in my (former) field many top researchers lived in Philly, New York, Boston + Toronto. Becoming a top researcher means travelling where other top researchers are.

        Eventually decided it was not worth it for me (had other priorities in life), but this is a sacrifice many EU researchers make (or should I say, made) to become top researchers.

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      • ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Operation Paperclip back in the day. Grants and such recently.

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    • oxideseven@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is the bobiverse future…

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  • dis_honestfamiliar@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Didn’t Albert Einstein flee Nazi Germany which advanced our research into what became the atomic bomb. Hmm… Should be fun century for USA.

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    • monarch@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Hoping that they flee to somewhere that leads to fusion energy and not cheap rods of god.

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      • fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Rods from God require space infra no one has and won’t for a long while

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    • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Trump has already dismantled the American empire. The decline will be rapid and terminal. Even if they returned to sanity tomorrow, the damage cannot be undone any time soon. Nobody is going to trust the US again in our lifetimes.

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      • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Oh no, all the trust america built up is suddenly gone…

        When will america be the worlds best step dad again!

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      • Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Tbh he’s just finishing off a process decades in the making.

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    • Zink@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How dare you point out something so relevant and foreboding.

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  • rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Scientists left nazi germany for the US, now they’ll leave nazi US.

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    • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Also nazi usa took in nazi “scientists”.

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  • Loce@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Time for scientists to leave the nazi country, just like they left nazi Germany in the 30s and 40s

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    • proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Damned scientists. Eerywhere they go, the place turns into nazi shithole

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    • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not to mention the nazi scientists… Nobody wants to talk about them…

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

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  • algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Y’all act like this wasn’t the plan all along

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    • prex@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We need a name for the opposite of operation paperclip.

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      • SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Leaf blower

        Paperclips hold papers together. Leaf blower blows them all over the place

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      • Michal@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Operation crayon

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      • Sphks@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Operation destapler

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      • Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Operation braindrain

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  • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I hope he’s already put of the country before he posted that, or he’ll be stopped and disappeared for being a security risk or something

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  • amos@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why is this in the “memes” community? It is not a meme, is it? We should have a general discussion community for topics like these! (if it doesn’t exist already).

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    • fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Check the sidebar.

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      • i_love_FFT@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        In the context of Dawkins meme, this post id definitely a meme!

        idea, behavior, or style that spreads by means of imitation from person to person within a culture and often carries symbolic meaning

        If we consider scientists imitating the behavior of other scientists (ex: leaving the us) combined with the social network post (signifying the symbolic meaning), it checks all the correct boxes to me!

        Would another peer review my analysis?

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      • bradd@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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      • amos@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I stand corrected! Thank you!

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    • Hirom@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Good point. That person’s solidarity with a colleague is remarkable and probably worth sharing, but it’s not a meme.

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    • xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      all pictures with text are “memes” now

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    • RangerJosey@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      To annoy you specifically.

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  • Boomkop3@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Welcome to Europe! You get to keep your healthcare plans into retirement!

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  • Bosht@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Pediatric. Oncologist. That dude is an absolute hero and treasure for taking on such a horrible and bleak profession. I hate that those words are combined in existence at all. God I’m so ashamed to be an American.

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    • Necroscope0@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Some people are built different. My dad worked as a pediatric hospice nurse for almost 10 years. Talk about a shitty sad job. Every single patient is a child and every single one of them is GOING to die on your watch. Fuck THAT. I do not know how he did it.

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      • shawn1122@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I figure we have to have some angels to balance out the demons that end up in positions of prominence in our societies.

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      • Boomkop3@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Now that is a hero

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    • Gladaed@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They are just doctors. No need to glorify them. They do no more or less than a bus driver. Most jobs have an emotional toll.

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      • Angelusz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Let’s agree to disagree. I respect bus drivers as much as you do. Some people, however, have a greater positive effect on humanity as a whole, and that deserves its own form of respect.

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      • blackn1ght@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’d have to imagine that the stress and emotional toll is significantly higher for a paediatric oncologist than a bus driver. There’s not so many people that could cope with that.

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      • barneypiccolo@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Good to know. Next time I have a medical issue, I’ll ask my bus driver for a diagnosis. What are your thoughts on subway drivers or Uber drivers?

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      • misteloct@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Agreed, I would be equally angry if a bus driver were detained by ICE. Their immigrants status and then solidarity is more important than their profession.

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      • shawn1122@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Having known several healthcare workers with PTSD from the pandemic I strongly disagree.

        Granted the pandemic was traumatizing for people from all walks of life but I don’t envy hospital based nurses or doctors from that time.

        It was so painful for nurses that many quit and we still have a nursing shortage today and likely for the next decade as a result.

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      • Boomkop3@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You’re right though. We don’t need healthcare

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      • Kage520@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Different energy. Bus driver has to deal with many potentially grumpy people in many potentially unsafe areas. Not an easy job.

        A doctor that is specifically specializing in a field where he has to get to know and take care of children as they die in a potentially painful way, has a much different challenge. Less for safety or aggressive people (though maybe parents could be I guess) but more in being the one to watch as the hope fades for each individual child in their last days.

        I wouldn’t love the bus driving job. I don’t think I could do the pediatric oncology one for more than like, one patient ever. I’d be depressed forever.

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  • rocky1138@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why use Meta when Mastodon is available? The less we all use corporate social media the more resilient we become.

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    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You have to keep evangelizing. They’ve likely never heard of it.

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      • fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Exactly. We need to get really obnoxious with the promotion

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      • Comment105@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s pretty likely they’ve heard of it as a niche option, as a forgettable factoid years ago.

        Then they may also have learned it’s a very small platform and something about decentralization.

        if they went to sign up regardless, it seems likely they didn’t end up picking an instance. (Possibly having left the page open, briefly looked up Mastodon instances and read a few sentences, then moved on to something else.)

        Now that they wouldn’t have had to pick an instance, they’ve long forgotten about it, maybe you could get them to try the normalized sign up process.

        But anyone who knows anything about people knew from the start that Mastodon wasn’t really even aiming for successful growth. Of course the instances were gonna be a roadblock.

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    • stray@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You have to say that on Meta if you want them to read it.

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    • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      B/c these people are just libs.

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Brain Drain time.

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  • jsomae@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    and women

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    • Slovene@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Why are you always going on about women, Stan?

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      • jsomae@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        is this a reference to something

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    • Comment105@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Of course.

      I’ll mention you probably missed the Depart men(t) of Education wordplay in the title.

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    • SomethingBurger@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      And the children, too.

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  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    is the title a pun on “depart-ment of education”?

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    • Birch@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s from a presidential directive for dissolving the “Departmen of Education”

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    • CheetahPitah@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It does appear to be so.

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  • Apple87sagan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is a sign we are collapasing. When the smart people wanna leave we are left with a bunch of narrow minded, uneducated people.

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    • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I work in big tech. 10 years ago, nobody was talking about going back to India, Pakistan, and to an extent, China. Now, people are talking about it. They’re talking about Indian stocks, Indian houses, and dreams of retiring to go back.

      Most people aren’t - but the number is now non-zero.

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  • werefreeatlast@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s okay to do the same to poor Latinos. But catch a scientists and I’m out of here!

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    • Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It completely not, obviously. But it’s unreasonable to ask the not-yet-disappeared poor Latinos to draw ICE attention to themselves, and those already caught in the orphan-crushing machine can’t access social media.

      These legally-documented scientists are the people who CAN speak out and the loss of whom might matter to those whose worldview is entirely transactional.

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    • werefreeatlast@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Just saying, even this argument is a double standard. But OK. You gotta draw the line somewhere.

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  • TDCN@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    🎶 So long, and thanks for all the fish 🎶

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  • daw@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Depart, [people] of education.

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  • abbadon420@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They’re welcome to come to Europe. In fact, Europe is actively trying to accommodate it as soon as possible link

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  • PanArab@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    While it is not the point, I am curious if his colleague is white or not. Is ICE targeting all foreigners or just the non-white-Europeans?

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  • xye@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Extremely sad news, this is what an authoritarian state looks like for anyone who still didn’t believe it. Wish them all the best wherever they land.

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  • Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Based if real

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  • alzymologist@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Haha, did this months before trump the first, enjoying early start fruits!

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  • usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Might have been working on the US to long.

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  • smokinliver@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wont last long until only the abolutely immoral scientists remain that are willing to experiment on political prisoners.

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  • podperson@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “Too” well

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  • KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Replacing education with idiots. The perfect republican scenario.

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  • TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Any form of alliance with the U.K. should be chucked out the window then…

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