Would you do Onlyfans if needed the money?

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Asking for a friend? It’s tough out here. No face shots.

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ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
No and not for the reason you’d expect:

OnlyFans requires you to do social media and prove that your social media accounts are yours, and of course they require you to hand over your real identity with your real ID card or passport and a selfie.

This is beyond dystopian. You have to be suicidal from a privacy standpoint to do OnlyFans.

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- FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  That’s actually fucking ridiculous. But I guess if you’re willing to put your asshole and face together on the Internet, you’re probably not to concerned about these extra steps.
  
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  - ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    You miss the point.
    
    What if you want to have a Facebook with the name “Joe Smith” and an OnlyFans with the name “Queen Georgina”? Even if your OnlyFans shows your face - which isn’t a requirement by the way - it’s not your real name. And you may not want to put your face or your real name on your Facebook at all, and keep the two completely separate.
    
    OnlyFans basically destroy the separation between your accounts and links both with your real identity, your real government-issued ID number or SSN. And they collaborate very closely with Facebook in case you didn’t know. I know that because I asked them.
    
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- ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Im going to assume OnlyFans doesn’t do that because they want to. They’d likely be harassed by government if they didn’t.
  
  Pornhub had to remove all unverified videos (which was most of their videos) and now anyone who uploads must follow similar rules that OnlyFans has. Pornhub posted an announcement saying they reported 118 instances of child abuse materials while Facebook reported 84,000,000 but that somehow they’re the ones being threatened to be shutdown unless they implement more rules.
  
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  - ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    
    Im going to assume OnlyFans doesn’t do that because they want to. They’d likely be harassed by government if they didn’t.
    
    Only partially.
    
    They don’t legally have to require you to do social media. All they’re legally required to do is to verify that you’re a consenting adult. With that respect, I get that they require a form of ID and a photo.
    
    But the social media stuff is something they pretend to require to add an extra layer of legitimacy to your account, and make extra-sure you’re not a fraud. It’s of course complete bullshit. They only do this to collect data.
    
    And don’t think for a second you can open an empty Facebook account and tell them “Here’s my social media account”: they want an old account with lots of real activity. And only certain types social media accounts are accepted. In fact, they’re very heavily biased towards you having a Facebook account, and it’s a lot more difficult to validate your OnlyFans account with anything other than a Facebook account.
    
    They’re in cahoots with Facebook on the social media verification scam. I believe a good portion of their revenue stream is deanonymizing sex workers and selling that data.
    
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  - bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    I think it has to do with women being trafficked into cam service.
    
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  - Akrenion@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    If I remember correctly the pressure came from credit card companies and not any government.
    
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- Steve@communick.news ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  They need all that to be able to give you your money.
  It’s how you get paid.
  
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  - ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    They don’t need to know under which name I access Facebook to pay me.
    
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- Grimy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  It’s to keep kids off the website and even with all that, there’s already been cases. I think they dont do enough tbh.
  
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  - jagged_circle@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Fortunately some places have zero knowledge proofs where you can prove you’re of age without giving your identity
    
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- Mac@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  I’d sell a lot more than that for riches.
  
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- IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  This guy raging that a media/porn publishing company verifies it’s models 🤣
  
  I mean in the history of porn nobody, and I mean nobody has ever been abused.
  
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- scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  You’ve probably provided ID at every job you’ve ever had. This is to establish legal residency and that you are of working age. I know OF is not a 9 to 5 job but money is exchanged and I don’t see why this is so dystopian, especially given the extra sensitivity around age.
  
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  - ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    I have no issue with providing ID. I take issue with them requiring me to provide social media credentials. If you don’t do social media - and especially if you don’t do Facebook in particular - no OnlyFans for you.
    
    Do you find this normal?
    I don’t.
    
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plactagonic@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
As a dude no, just because I don’t think that I would make enough to justify it.

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- Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Quick! Everybody pay this man for dick pics! He needs a self esteme boost!
  
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  - plactagonic@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Please don’t, I trust that there are people who would appreciate them but just not enough to pay bills.
    
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Azzu@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
It’s actually extremely hard to earn money with OnlyFans. You’re not the first one to get the idea. There’s massive competition and if you’re not seriously willing to do a lot of marketing (which basically means going on social media and messaging thirsty dudes/people and being flirty with them), you’re only going to earn peanuts if anything at all.

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- datavoid@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  I feel like the top 5 - 10% could probably make money, not just the top .01
  
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  - Azzu@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    I meant you wouldn’t have to work as hard as normal jobs if you are top 0.01% beautiful, not that you can’t make money unless you are.
    
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Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
If I thought I could actually make even $5 on OnlyFans, I would have one right now. Ain’t nobody wants to see a 40, year old out of shape, awkward geek dude jack off or show his butthole.

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- zyratoxx@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Randy Marsh did it too
  
  youtu.be/ZmojJJHFUWQ
  
  youtu.be/bXaQr9MBlYs
  
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  - Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    I’m not married anymore, so I don’t have anyone to compete against either. 🤷🏻‍♂️
    
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- skrlet13@feddit.cl ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  I mean, there’s market. The biggest problem is marketing yourself to people who would pay. Most people don’t want to pay for porn unfortunately (but they sure want it, so they use leaks or piracy). Also, payment processors for adult content have very high fees.
  
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RBWells@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Selling yourself is not an easy job. If you can, then sure, go for it. But for each person making thousands there are thousands of people making pennies.

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FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
No one wants to see my hemorrhoids.

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- BradleyUffner@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  This is the Internet; there are at least 300 people that want to see them.
  
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  - MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Yeah, butt are they desperate and loaded?
    
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  - FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Do you want to see my hemorrhoids?
    
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- Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Doctors do. Then they want to charge you lots of money for having seen them.
  
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- DjMeas@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Why don’t they call them _ass_teroids?
  
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LordKitsuna@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I would do OnlyFans just for fun if i was female and or attractive

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ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
People underestimate how much work is involved with anything involving selling online content. This isn’t just Only fans.

But if it’s an hour of work to make $100, why wouldn’t I?

There are people giving plasma for money.

There are people jacking off animals for money.

There are people who spend hours scamming old people for money.

Time is a investment though. Unfortunately $100 a hour is not the best use of my time. But maybe it is for you and your situation.

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- fuzzzerd@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Curious what you do that 100/hr isn’t a good use of time, because that sounds like something I’d like to learn about.
  
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  - ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    I’m a programmer and I make a pretty decent salary, enough to support my family and during any emergencies.
    
    The free time I have, I do these things in this order:
    
    Hang out with my wife and kids
    
    Chill out with recreational things like gaming
    
    Continue to study, read books and take online courses, contribute to open-source and build applications for startups
    
    Convert that free time to $100/hr
    
    Trying to make MORE money is at the bottom for me.
    
    And if you ARE money driven, working hourly isn’t how most people became rich. They usually win the lottery by doing a hobby that ended up paying dividends. Like building a app and getting bought out, or collecting Pokemon cards or something.
    
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rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Boi ain’t nobody paying for mine

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- jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Yeah, I need something like an OnlyFoes where people pay to inflict my content on someone they didn’t like.
  
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  - m0darn@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Ahh yes sexual harassment for hire. Great idea. Maybe we should have an MMA experience we can order for our foes too.
    
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- Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  I pay you to stay off!
  
  /s
  
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LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Already have. If you want to limit the exposure to e.g. not damage any future career opportunities then just make it expensive. I did it for £12.99 a month, no free page, no PPV, no RP etc. and had about 5-6 users total across a few months so I ended up having close to ~£100 total which was good groceries money (pre the mid-2022 price inflation) for the month or so I was out of a job, not enough to live on on its own but a good bonus, meant I could eat something other than bread and beans.

Fwiw it was fun and a great ego boost ngl, kinda almost makes me wanna do it again even though I def don’t have to.

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- BadmanDan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  That’s how my friend is about this. She wants feel attractive and make some extra change at the same time.
  
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masquenox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Sure. Only problem is nobody would pay to see me naked.

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Chainweasel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
As a cornfed brick-shithouse built Midwestern hairy dude in my late-30s, I’d do it right now if there were a market for chubby hairy dudes but I know better and I’d rather not embarrass myself.

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- Maven@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  The fact that it’s a niche interest means that people will pay more for it… And trust me… People LOVEE late 30s chubby hairy dudes
  
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- Adderbox76@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  There’s a kink for everything. It may not be a large base, but I’ll bet it’s there.
  
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Klnsfw@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I have a very liberated sexuality, girls, boys, sometimes among consenting strangers. OF could be a logical extension if I needed money.

However , two things stand in the way: first, I have a job that gives me social recognition and financial stability, and it wouldn’t be compatible with the social stigma of sex work.

The other problem is all the work that goes into OF, like on YT channels ot Twitch: communicating on social networks, managing a community, editing, finding collaborations. I don’t know how to do it and I don’t think I’d like it.

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hamburger@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Sure, but I don’t have anything to offer.

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2ugly2live@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
If I knew I was going to make some money? Sure. But I hear it’s super difficult since so many people do the same. But if you think you have a gimmick, or are super attractive, you could make a but of change.

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- jol@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  You really need to put in a lot of effort to market yourself. Being attractive helps, but it’s not all.
  
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  - 2ugly2live@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    That’s a good point. It’s not like we’re lacking attractive people on the internet.
    
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tobogganablaze@lemmus.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I don’t think I could make money on onlyfans.

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Texas_Hangover@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
If I was attractive, yes.

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Iheartcheese@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I would it would if there was a market for pudgy balding men in their 40’s

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Grimy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Yes, especially with no face shots. That being said, I think it’s brutally competitive these days. You are probably better off checking the beer money reddit sub if you are having trouble making ends meet and can’t find a proper job.

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toomanypancakes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I’ve thought about it, but I’m willing to bet that the demand for a thirty something tran is pretty low

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- Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  You might be surprised.
  
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- SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  If the creeps that message me on Grindr are anything to go by, you’d def be surprised. I’ve thought about it, ngl.
  
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- Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  There is a huge market for you!
  
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- muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  U would be suprised
  
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Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
What’s the market for fat old dudes like?

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- Godort@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Pretty good, actually. Assuming that you can brand it the right way.
  
  For example, if you’re okay catering to gay men and can position yourself as a confident top with a dad-bod, there is a market for you.
  
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  - muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    I love how lemmy just knows these things.
    
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ExtraMedicated@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Would fans pay to watch a short, fat guy write code while wearing nothing but his underwear (and sweat pants, and a slightly over-sized t-shirt)?

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- Godort@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  They might, actually. I know of some people that stream software development to Twitch
  
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- jagged_circle@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Switch to under sized t, and you’re on your way
  
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geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Only the top percentage make good money. Doubt it will earn more than a minimum wage job unless you do some weird fetish.

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- tehmics@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  The percentage seems to be padded out by inactive accounts or something, even the worst only fans profiles I’ve seen are showing ‘top 1%’ banners
  
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  - AnyOldName3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Many of the inactive accounts will be people who signed up and started, but made no or too little money, so abandoned the idea. They’re still worth counting when working out how likely a new person will be to make money. Other inactive accounts will be bots or catfish where there was never any intention to make money the way people expect the site to be used, so you can still discount a lot of them, but it’s not all of them.
    
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tacosanonymous@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
My friend has on Only Fans and she doesn’t get very much money. She’d make more waiting (food service)

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zlatiah@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Well the bigger question is, would you buy it? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Jokes aside… Not attractive enough. Even if I’m attractive, OF creators are quite competitive as it’s kind of a “winner takes all” market. So probably not worth it… Besides, for conventionally attractive people shouldn’t there be easier ways to make money off looks? For example landing a modeling gig that has a more steady pay or something like that

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hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I suppose there is some level of poverty I would consider becoming a sex worker for, but it would be an absolute last resort.

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SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I’d need to get in better shape first. As it turns out my new workout shoes will be here tomorrow. Maybe the universe is telling me to turn myself out?

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TokenEffort@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
If you don’t enjoy it as a hobby, you won’t enjoy it as a business.

Do you enjoy taking nudes for fun? Go for it. If not, OF would be the worst “job” you’ve ever had, being just below roaming in train tracks looking for pennies.

Amazon hires anyone hiring.amazon.com

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- callouscomic@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Most people don’t enjoy their hobbies anymore when they turn it into a business.
  
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- pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  
  Benefits Health benefits, parental leave, paid time off, holiday overtime, employee discounts, and more.
  
  It’s insane that those things have to be listed in a so-called developed country (except employee discounts, that’s an actual benefit)
  
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emmataylor90@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I will do even for free, I just want someone who can setup everythign and I act as a model lol

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Free_Opinions@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I am doing it but not on OnlyFans and not for money. I’d be more than happy to monetize it if it was that simple but I’m a guy making quite niche content so I’ll stick with the crowd of few thousand Twitter users following me.

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