Why is Kamala Harris being held at such a higher standard than Trump this election?

Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨BadmanDan@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

It feels like Harris has to run a damn near flawless campaign just to BARELY beat this guy. Yeah you can bring up the current state of the country, but Trump mishandled COVID, there were over 200k deaths, BLM protest and was 2x impeached. And yet, Joe Biden BARELY beat him.

Trump is a convicted felon, liable sexual predator, caused an insurrection on the Capitol Hill, tried to steal the 2020 election (find me 11,000 votes), constantly kisses Russia’s ass, has more pending court cases and gets sentenced next month and overall has been the main driving factor in America’s division.

Yet, this race is STILL either 50/50 or tilt Trump. Harris gets destroyed by the corporate media for almost anything, yet Trump is still lying and saying the most outlandish shit and nobody cares.

Why does it feel standards are much higher for Harris than Trump?

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dhork@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Because too many people treat politics like a sporting event. You root for your team no matter what, and against the other team. You have to do it this way, because if the other side wins that means your side loses.

So there are too many people who view Trump as “Their Guy”, and are “rooting” for him. Anything they hear that might portray Trump in a negative light (like a criminal trial, for instance) must be the Other Side trying to cheat to win unfairly.

I remind people that Roger Ailes was Nixon’s media consultant, and the lesson he learned from Watergate was that Nixon could have gotten away with it if the media was more sympathetic. He then went on to be the CEO of Fox News. That’s no accident. There is a direct line from Nixon to Trump, and Roger Ailes drew it.

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- UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  the lesson he learned from Watergate was that Nixon could have gotten away with it if the media was more sympathetic.
  
  Then we got Reagan, Bush, and Trump, and he proved it.
  
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  - halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    The media almost singlehandedly bringing Watergate to the average American’s attention was why Murdoch created Fox News. It was created specifically so they could force control of the narrative to their advantage.
    
    And then we allowed every other media corporation to be bought and do the same once they saw it worked so well.
    
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  - HessiaNerd@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    How Regan didn’t get impeached over Iran Contra is baffling.
    
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  - rayyy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Well, yeah, thanks to Fox entertainment.
    
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- stinerman@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Also white supremacy is a hell of a drug.
  
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  - Don_Dickle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    That is why I move to bigger more ethnic cities or countries where I am wanted at and dont have to put up with that shit. Just worked with a nazi/neonazi/skinhead or whatever and I while he would talk to me about his beliefs I woulld always find an excuse to walk away
    
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- BadmanDan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Thanks for that info, I never about the Ailes Nixon-Trump connection. This is so frustrating to see unravel in real time.
  
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- CCMan1701A@startrek.website ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I have heard from friends of mine that like Trump claim that since he’s a business man he is good for running the country. I could’t roll my eyes hard enough after hearing that remark.
  
  I have also found that there is nothing you can say to sway a trump supporter.
  
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corroded@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The problem isn’t that Harris is being held to a higher standard. The problem is that Americans think of elections the same way they think of a sporting match. It’s “my team is going to win!” not “I’m going to vote for the candidate that is best aligned with my beliefs.” A huge number of the people who are voting Republican are doing so because the Republican party is their “team,” and damn it, their team is going to win even if it kills them.

Many years ago, I was discussing politics with a coworker (always a bad idea, but whatever). It went something like this:

“So, you don’t think the less-fortunate should be able to afford medical care?” “No, of course not, everyone should be able to see a doctor.”

“You don’t think gay people should be allowed to marry?” “I’m not gay, but they can do whatever makes them happy.”

“You support the war in Iraq, then?” “I support our troops, but the war is kind of a waste.”

“We definitely should legalize weed, right?” “Um, I’d smoke it if I didn’t get drug tested.”

“So why are you voting Republican, then?” “My family is Republican; we always do.”

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- nifty@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  “So why are you voting Republican, then?” “My family is Republican; we always do.”
  
  Republican politicians would eat this person and their family if it ever came to it
  
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  - Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    After raping them all first.
    
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  - ouRKaoS@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Sadly, they would probably volunteer to be eaten so they could “own the libs”
    
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- aStonedSanta@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  We call this indoctrination. Cult. And fucking sheep. Lmao
  
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- tlou3please@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  As an outsider looking in, I’ve seen a lot of footage of rallies and events (on both sides) that are just absolutely crazy to me. Almost dystopian. People with painted faces, all kinds of merch, hollering and shouting and cheering like it’s the X Factor or a rock concert or something. You see people being interviewed outside the events and it’s like a festival in the background. It’s really, really bizarre. We have problems with our politics here too but not like that. I can’t believe that all of those people are ACTUALLY that passionate about any policies themselves, it’s just vague culture wars nonsense with a bizarre personality contest as a proxy for it.
  
  As I say, I’m not trying to act superior. My country has its share of problems too, just a very different sort.
  
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  - AndrewZabar@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    You have to understand, you are seeing people of VERY low intelligence. I know that’s tough to accept, but demographics are really frightening in America. Millions of voters with intelligence not very much higher than outright mental retardation. And so, the system learned long ago, you don’t bother trying to get them to think you’re right for the job, you don’t want them thinking at all. So you just get them to ally with you as a tribe, and that way they’re yours even if you’re doing the opposite of what they want.
    
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- CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Here in Canada I’ve seen much the same behaviour for both Liberal and Conservative voters. “I vote Liberal because I’ve always voted Liberal” is a surprisingly common statement especially among the older generations, and to a small extent even the Green party has a few loyalists in BC.
  
  Always voting the same way no matter what happens is just giving your vote away for free.
  
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- aodhsishaj@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Horse race politics
  
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neidu2@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Because a cult leader is automatically the purest one can be and needs no scrutiny.

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- BadmanDan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I understand the MAGA cult, but do moderates not see this?
  
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  - neidu2@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    There the opposite is true. They already know that the other guy is a villain. Their candidate will have to prove themselves not to be.
    
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  - MataVatnik@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Because moderates pathological like to bring up “both sides”
    
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  - Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Moderates are conservatives with a sense of shame.
    
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  - grue@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    “Moderates” are a fiction. They’re just an excuse Democrats make for pandering to corporate donors while giving only the barest scraps to their leftist base.
    
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- Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Only by the cultists, and I doubt the entire media industry is in the cult.
  
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  - pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Trump gets views. That’s why they love him.
    
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  - stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    it is
    
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Professorozone@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Can’t believe you are asking this now. In the 70s, I don’t believe any of these yokels would have been elected. Lauren Beaubert, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Trump, they’ve all done things and said things that are so far over the line, it isn’t even funny. Nixon? Please, he would be small potatoes today.

Why? Gerrymandering. Social Media. Lack of critical thinking skills. A sense of hopelessness. Apathy. Billionaire brainwashing. The list goes on. The strange thing is, conservatives want to go back to the way things were. For them that means when women had to go to back alleys to get abortions, when gays were stoned, when blacks weren’t allowed to vote. For me it means when people didn’t justify these ridiculous notions, but instead just said, “No!”

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- lurch@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  conservatives aren’t conservative any more. they are radically backwards. the things they want are so far back, they don’t even want democracy any more. i don’t really have a say in that, but maybe the time has come to stop calling them conservative.
  
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  - shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I’m conservative vs. most of lemmy and damned if I’ll vote anything but straight D right down to dogcatcher. I wouldn’t vote for an R even if I liked them! The message must be sent. Even if it’s a loss, your vote ends up as a percentage on a spreadsheet. It is still seen.
    
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  - SkyNTP@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    They are “regressives”.
    
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  - kautau@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yeah there was a long time ago when conservatives voted to protect national parks. These aren’t those times
    
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  - themeatbridge@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Conservatives are exactly the same as they have always been. It’s just that conservatives define their priorities and their values and priorities around their identity, and that means their values and priorities shift with whatever is best for the conservative at the time. There are no universally conservative values, just the generic resistance to change things conservatives like. When a conservative benefits from a strong federal government, they support it. When a conservative benefits from abortion, they support it. When a conservative is a minority, or gay, or a woman, they support equalish rights for themselves. It’s narcissism wearing the cloak of stoic preservation of their “heritage,” and it’s always paper-thin.
    
    This also means anyone opposing the conservative is not a member of the self, but a member of the other. The other is evil, because they are outside of the self. Anything the other does in opposition to the self is evil. An other could save a busload of nuns and kittens, and the conservative would complain about the traffic caused by the other. Anything the self does in support of the self is good. Lying, cheating, stealing, killing, raping, everything is on the table if it can be justified in support or defense of the self. From the outside of the self, it looks like hypocrisy, but it’s really not, because the conservative never truly holds an opinion. They just say what they need to say to win.
    
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- BadmanDan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  It’s wild that Trump has done things far worse than watergate, and still got the nomination.
  
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  - Professorozone@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It is. The world is stranger than I could possibly ever have imagined. Sometimes I play a thought game. What if I had to explain this to, an alien.
    
    “Yes, this is how it works. Are you going to destroy us now? Yeah, we probably deserve this.”
    
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  - Angry_Autist@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It’s not wild, it’s the GOP plan since Nixon got nabbed.
    
    Drumpf just happened to have that crazy crowd draw, so they yoked their hopes that he would be the first king of America, and disregarded everything else to forward that goal.
    
    Cheetolini could eat a baby live on national television and his numbers would barely dip.
    
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- Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The right wing has been actively working to undermine our educational system since the early 80’s. A poorly educated populace, particularly one without critical thinking skills, is much easier to manipulate. After four decades of underfunding, restrictive policies, and anti-intellectual propaganda, those efforts are really paying off.
  
  Newt Gingrich and his co-conspirators have been waging war against the people of this country since Reagan was elected. And they are now dangerously close to winning that war.
  
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  - shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I don’t think the attack on education was a long-term manipulation thing. Rather, it evolved from the question, “Why are all these educated people turning into liberals?!”
    
    That question demands an answer. They can hardly let the appearance that they’re dumb stand! So guys like Limbaugh started attacking “ivory tower liberals”. That resonated, they rolled with it. Then the Christians saw the opportunity, got their filthy fingers into the cracks, started undermining public education in favor of their own.
    
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- Etterra@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  They’re probably just young.
  
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- postmateDumbass@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  MTG would have been right at home as a Dixiecrat.
  
  She would have neen standing beside George Wallace.
  
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  - Professorozone@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    If you say so. I’m more of an 80s person. All I know about George Wallace is that he was shot.
    
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Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Because the media are largely in the hands of the oligarchy that will stop at nothing to get another tax cut.

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Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
You must be young. Because Republicans will vote for a criminal before they vote for “communism”. Because the Republicans attempt to destroy the educational system to keep people dumb enough to vote for them has worked. Because dispite the corporate media pandering and acting like they want Harris Because that’s what their viewers want, their billionaire owners don’t. They want the republican led centrist enabled tax breaks on their money. Harris has also brought in the progressives which have zero tolerance for the centrist mindset. She is in a situation where she has to dance a dance of trying to reel in the progressives even though they are going to throw a fit when she panders to the centrists and the corporate overlords.

The system is made and controlled by the billionaires. No hard progressive that doesn’t play the game a little is going to get elected… right now. They will destroy anyone that threatens their billions. Everytime she goes a little too hard left they throw a fit.

Welcome to end stage capitalism.

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- KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The United States went so hard on being anti-communist that we became anti community.
  
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ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Can you imagine a woman or a black man (let alone a black woman) running for president while being three-times divorced with kids from multiple partners and having cheated multiple times on top of that? Even if they were rich like Trump, it would never fly.

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- BadmanDan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Obama’s political career would’ve ended the second “grab em by the p****” got leaked.
  
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  - nooneescapesthelaw@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Obama got so much leeway throughout his career, shit like PRISM and Snowden, Benghazi, the invasion of Ukraine, the rise of isis, all under his watch.
    
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- transientpunk@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  You forgot to add convicted felon
  
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pseudonym@monyet.cc ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
All those things you said against Trump are actually working in his favor. His base sees it as persecution of their chosen one.

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- BadmanDan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  But he can’t just win off his cult votes. He has to get moderate votes too.
  
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  - SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Not if he cheats as hard as they plan to!
    
    Literally, the Supreme Court just made clear they’re helping promote the false narrative of “illegal immigrants voting,” which helps promote the understanding that the plan is to contest the fucking election, no matter the outcome.
    
    That’s why they have those electioneering hooligans in Georgia and why people are fighting it.
    
    They have zero intent to make this a fair fight. That’s why they don’t give a fuck about actual votes.
    
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  - Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    That doesn’t seem realistic. I don’t see how you can vote for Trump 2024, and claim to be a moderate.
    
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- KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  His base sees it as persecution of their chosen one.
  
  yeah, cuz he’s a criminal, who did crimes, that’s normally what happens to criminals that do crimes.
  
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JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Trump is an outrage machine, and we have a media that deals in an economy of outrage.

Trump gets outrage. Outrage gets clicks. Clicks get money. It’s a pretty simple chain to follow.

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- Impassionata@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I am shocked to see this pseudofascist apologia so highly upvoted.
  
  It’s not the media’s coverage of the fascism that’s the problem.
  
  You would rather deflect blame to the media than point the finger at the fascism. Shame on you.
  
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  - JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I don’t think the fascism would exist if it wasn’t profitable to give it a platform.
    
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HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I feel like a lot of people on Trump’s side don’t care and all of his issues have been documented in the press. If people cared, he wouldn’t be this close.

You also have enough people left of Harris who don’t want to hold their collective noses and vote for her. They’ll complain about the Overton window shifting right, but won’t be a bulwark for keeping it from shifting right. Hell, there are people on Lemmy complaining about political utilitarianism as a reason for voting for Harris and will even complain about Bernie if he says something being done by the Biden administration is good.

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- acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  it’s so frustrating. I admit I used to vote green, but the entry of Trump opened my eyes. Things like judge appointments, incremental advances in fighting climate change, and NOT having a seditionist as president are all issues we can’t afford to lose on in the next 4 years just for some rhetorical vote for the Green Party.
  
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  - distantsounds@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Demand ranked choice voting and make sure you are doing so locally
    
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  - KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    move to maine, and you’ll have it.
    
    Realistically, you shouldn’t move to maine, and you should popularize moving towards something like IRV instead of FPTP
    
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Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Because some Democrats have standards.

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stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Because MAGA is the largest cult in the world and they won’t believe their great father could do anything wrong…

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- Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Especially against a (1) colored (2) women (3) democrat
  
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  - berno@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    please provide more idpol reasons thanks
    
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- rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The whole of USA is something 300+mln people, now do Christianity, then do Islam, then do Hinduism, then do Communism, and then do Fascism.
  
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Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I don’t believe it’s possible for anybody to be held to lower standards than Trump.

It’s a good thing she’s held to higher standards. I don’t want anybody held to his standards running anything.

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BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
People who would ever consider voting for the Toupee have no standards. No bar, no logic or even thought goes in to who they vote for.

The people who are planning to vote against the Toupee have standards. And the Democratic party has continually failed to meet those standards. And the only time the people have any power to pressure a politician is when they’re running for office. Anyone claiming “just vote in the D, then we can focus on getting progress made” is a centrist who is ok being perpetually part of the oppressed class.

Yes, we need to vote against the Toupee, and the GOP in general. We also need a presidential administration who will get progress done. And since the human species has, at best, 30 years left before the majority of the world is uninhabitable, little baby steps won’t cut it.

So Harris and the Dems have a high bar. Because the alternative is fascism, or death by climate change.

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- Soulg@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Anyone claiming “just vote in the D, then we can focus on getting progress made” is a centrist who is ok being perpetually part of the oppressed class.
  
  Well if that isn’t just the dumbest thing I’ve ever read.
  
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- Linkerbaan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Your entire comment is written like Biden and Harris are not currently complicit in Genocide.
  
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  - InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Okay do what are you doing to further your goals to stop the genocide?
    
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  - jhymesba@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    This poster doesn’t care one whit about the plight of Palestinians. It has but one goal – to be the nerdy girl that helps peel votes off the votes from the nerdy guy so her friend, the jerkish cheerleader favoured by the Jocks, can win the SGA election 49 to 48 to 3 (I’ve posted this example of how government works in First Past the Post if you’d like to understand what I mean by nerd girl and cheerleader in SGA). The purpose of this poster and others like it is to throw the election to Trump so we’re subjected to Project 2025, which incidentally aligns with Putin’s and Xi’s goals.
    
    Please think carefully before you listen to this poster or any other like it.
    
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- LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  That would add up if you thought people should choose fascism or death from climate change over some sense of chance.
  
  We need to make larger demands, but voting for those options you listed shouldn’t be 50/50 as the post is questioning.
  
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niktemadur@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Because so trump voters are low-information, rabid and impervious to fact and/or reason. They will vote orange even if he shoots someone on Fifth Avenue to death, or if there are 32-or-whatever felony indictments/verdicts.

Meanwhile, while many potential Democrat voters are also low-information in their own way - impressionable, fickle and with little memory retention, they seem unable to act upon a clear and present danger until it punches them in the goddamned face (and by then of course it’s too late), somehow have normalized the orange threat and are easy prey to an algorithm pushing a “both parties are the same” divide-and-conquer propaganda.

The difference between a parasite-laden excrement chip cookie and a raisin oatmeal cookie, “But I wanted chocolate chip! bOtH cOoKiEs ArE tHe SaMe!”

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- Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  34 felonies.
  
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  - Linkerbaan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Genocide.
    
    Genocide.
    
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- BadmanDan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Very well said
  
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rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
You ever see one of those families where the drug addicted high school dropout gets everything handed to them by the parents but the successful honor student gets beaten because they passed the entrance exam to harvard but didn’t pass it good enough?

It’s like that.

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- Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  2 of my cousins (brother and sister) are 2 very opposite people. The older brother has been a career fuck-up since grade school; always getting in trouble, failing, not caring, running with the wrong crowds, knocked up a girl when they were 16, got kicked out of 1 school and barely graduated. He’s never held a job more than 6 months, if that, each job is minimum wage with minimal skills, been kicked out of the house a few times, has a sordid legal history, dated some questionable women, and eventually got into a relationship with a single mom of 3 kids who inherited 6-figures when her dad died and dude thought he was on easy street from that point forward…until 6 months later when he blew threw half the money and she kicked him out to where he’s now crashing in a camper working a lawn job.
  
  His sister, honor student in HS, went to college, got a degree but had difficulty finding a job in graphic design that wasn’t freelance. Seeing the 27 2nd chances her enabler-parents afforded her brother…she stopped caring and moved back in with the parents bouncing from middling job to middling job. He’s in his mid-30s and she’s in her upper 20’s
  
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WoahWoah@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Because Harris’s supporters have standards.

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Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
USA as a society is mentally ill, where sociopathy is often seen as a virtue. For instance denying poor people health care and food, denying pregnant women with potentially lethal complications the right to abortion. Allowing (white) people to kill (black) people without reason based on stand your ground rules. Refusing stricter gun rules despite countless school shootings.

The list of sociopathy permeating US society goes on and on.
Now I know that despite this, about half the population see the problems. The other half, somehow confuse Trump’s sociopathy with strength, and admire him for it. Yes this is how it is in USA, sociopathy is widely admired, people want Trump to hurt people, the poor, emigrants, people of color, LGBT. Many Americans want all these people to suffer, for no other reason than their mere existence. Somehow this is OK to even extend to women in general too.

If you are a normal well functioning person, it’s near impossible to grasp that hate can be this widespread, and Trump is fueling it, and before him Republicans have been fueling it for decades.

This makes all the hateful illegal stuff Trump does nearly irrelevant, people simply don’t care, they just want to see the people they hate burn. It’s not that Trump isn’t called out at times, it’s just that it doesn’t really make a difference.

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IzzyJ@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Theres several reasons

Part of it is good old fashioned bigotry

A big part of it is the systemic advantage the Electoral College gives Republicans

And of course there’s the matter that Traitor Trump voters don’t have standards while the rest of us do

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INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
First election?

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SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Because the kind of people who run CNN are the same people who covered for people like Jimmy Savile.

Sir Mark Thompson is Chairman and CEO of CNN. Here’s some blurbs from his Wikipedia, the Savile one being the most salacious.

In September 2010, Thompson acknowledged some of the BBC’s previous political bias, which he said he had witnessed early in his career. He stated: “In the BBC I joined 30 years ago there was, in much of current affairs, in terms of people’s personal politics, which were quite vocal, a massive bias to the left”. He added: “the organisation did struggle then with impartiality”.

Fucking news to me, mate.

Although Thompson departed the BBC before public exposure of the Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal and is not noted in the BBC chronology of the unfolding coverage, Thompson faced questions about his role in the events around Savile’s actions and BBC coverage of them. According to a New York Times review, Thompson denied knowing of a BBC Newsnight programme on accusations against Savile before it was dropped soon after Savile’s death in October 2011.

Literally everyone around Savile is fucking trash.

In a 4 February 2024 investigation by The Guardian, some CNN staff blamed their channel’s newly appointed director Mark Thompson for what they described as biased reporting of the Israel–Hamas war. The staff criticized their network’s coverage of the war, charging that it had promoted Israeli propaganda, and gave more attention to Israeli suffering, and the Israeli narrative of the war. One staffer claimed that this bias was systematic and institutionalized, as many journalists’ stories were forced to be cleared by channel’s Jerusalem bureau before publication. Staffers claimed that statements by Hamas and the Palestinian Authority were rarely reported on, while Israeli statements were taken at face value. A CNN spokesperson denied the charges of bias.

That’s to say nothing about the pro-Trump head of Discovery (which owns CNN) David Zaslav slobbing this guys knob.

Discovery CEO David Zaslav shared, “I am confident he is exactly the leader we need to take the helm of CNN at this pivotal time.”

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bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Because what passes for journalism these days subsists on engagement metrics, and Harris doesn’t say crazy off-the-wall shit every 10 seconds.

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duckduckohno@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It’s the same when it comes to any other countries. The right always gets away with corruption because it’s expected. Whereas the left has a higher moral standpoint so it is being accused of hypocrisy and things get blown out proportion even if small scale corruption occurs. For example in UK the previous government were giving jobs and contracts to friends and family all the time and nobody cried about it. It became accepted. The new left of centre government comes in and gives a temporary pass to a donor and suddenly it’s a huge scandal…

It’s the same if you care for the environment and ever took a taxi somewhere, or a vegetarian or vegan and have shoes made out of leather. Sure you are doing better than everyone else to help but you are still the devil and worse than everyone else somehow…

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Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Kamala proposed a corporate tax hike. They will be pulling out literally All. The. Stops.

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wuphysics87@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Trump is more than a candidate. He validates and supports a state of mind. To many, he is a champion of a lifestyle and a way of thinking. That isn’t something that is easy to overcome.

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linearchaos@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’ll take racism, sexism, propaganda and capitalism for 500 Alex.

They’ve got pretty firm control of the business sectors through tax cut agenda. They’ve got pretty firm control of the farmers for the same. Through fear and propaganda they’ve got pretty strong control of the poor and some of the educated middle class in the rural areas. A lot of the red states are doing everything they can to impede their education systems. If you keep people from becoming educated there’s less competition at the top and a lot more red voters.

All you’ve got to fight them are the poor and the middle class in the cities and suburbs and the occasional upper class that isn’t so self-serving that they’re willing to stand on everyone else.

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nexguy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Every politician in U.S. history has been held to a higher standards than Trump. And thank God.

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JustZ@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Black. Female.

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pyre@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
you’re asking why fascists and leftists have different standards and morals?

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DogPeePoo@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Because the Billionaire owners of the media— FOX NBC ABC CNN are all conservatives who support project 2025.

They are predominantly white and they want their tax cuts while passing the bill to the plebeians.

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