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Somehow USB disks are still the easiest and most reliable way

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  • TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Randall Munroe shows us how it’s done:

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    Every time you email a file to yourself so you can pull it up on your friend’s laptop, Tim Berners-Lee sheds a single tear.

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    • IronKrill@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sad that this XKCD from 2011 is still just as accurate today…

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      • tatterdemalion@programming.dev ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Only because IPv6 and self-hosting is not mainstream yet. But if it were commonplace for everyone’s home to have something as simple as a public file server or SSH server, then this problem would be trivialized.

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      • anivia@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Not quite, we now have options like wormhole that make it pretty simple

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      • Eheran@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Just send it over telegram. Even Whatsapp allows that size I assume.

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    • xavier666@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      HCTP: Hypercar Transfer Protocol. Someone make an RFC

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  • mvirts@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Kde connect all day erry day

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    • Jumuta@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      kde connect and syncthing both just work, and it’s amazing

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      • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I haven’t been able to get Syncthing permissions to work. The frustrating thing for me with Android has always been inconsistencies between vendors and weird permissions issues.

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    • ogeist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Localsend is also a thing

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      • MHanak@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I personally find localsend more reliable and easyer when it comes to sending files

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      • ChilledPeppers@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Came here to say this

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    • kspatlas@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      KDE connect is gold

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    • OfficerBribe@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It is alright, but SFTP transfer broke for me some time ago. I think it is related to changes in Android, but surprisingly there were not a lot of posts about this issue last I searched. Using Android 13 / Samsung One UI 5.1 with Windows 11.

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      • Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I use Material Files (from f-droid) as my default file manager, which includes support for mounting FTP, SFTP, SMB, and webdav shares. It doesn’t handle the connection getting interrupted very well, so if that happens i have to restart the app. Other than that it’s been working great for my SMB share.

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    • TheFonz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It times out for me every time. After ten or so files just gives up.

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  • franklin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Syncthing is amazing though.

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    • renzev@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s pretty good. Definitely better then self-hosted stuff like owncloud, because you don’t need to maintain your own server. But sometimes it takes a while for two hosts to discover each other on the same local area network.

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      • untorquer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’ve never noticed any delay after first discovery. But i only use 3 devices so 🤷

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      • Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I think they’re both good for different use-cases. I use nextcloud myself on a truenas system. I sync things like my pictures to nextcloud, and delete them from my phone after I’ve sorted them into the correct folders.

        This way my data isn’t clogging up my phone and other things, is still available from anywhere (as long as my home internet doesn’t go down), and it’s still safely stored on redundant storage.

        This does take a bit more setting up than something like syncthing, though it wasn’t very difficult at all. Basically install the docker image, tell it where my data goes, and set up a new dns record if you want it publicly accessible. I personally run it through a zerotier network so I don’t have to do that.

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  • Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No shout out for my boi LocalSend?

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    • feddylemmy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is why I love lemmy. Bookmarked! Thank you.

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      • Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You’re welcome 😊

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      • meliaesc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Anyone have any other cool crossplatform tools to share?

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    • 1stQ@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The only thing is that both devices need to be in the same WiFi net. But it also works on the road when the laptop uses the phones Hotspot.

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    • alteredracoon@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Love LocalSend! Have been using it almost daily since I found it.

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    • DogWater@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Is safe?

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      • Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        How do you mean?

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    • Xttweaponttx@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Shiiit dude thanks! Installed - definitely a keeper

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      • Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You’re welcome! 😊

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    • tatterdemalion@programming.dev ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So we’re reinventing scp now?

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      • Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        For what LocalSend is designed, imo, it is more convenient to use than scp — by quite a large margin.

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  • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The amount of times sending myself an email is still the quickest thing is insane. Sure I could try to use notion or keep to send myself some random string of text but am I logged in on my desktop? Idk. Just use email.

    Also there are so many things like air drop, nfc, etc, but so many of them are so specific to certain devices. Maybe one day we’ll figure this out lol

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    • garbagebagel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Glad I’m not the only one! I am extra old and use my Hotmail too…

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      • PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Most of my emails are to myself going back and forth between PC and phone lol

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    • dantheclamman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Haven’t had to email a file to myself since I set up syncthing

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  • tobogganablaze@lemmus.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Or just use a USB cable.

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    • renzev@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Image

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      • steersman2484@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I just add the printer on my phone and print over the network

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      • MudMan@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Wait, what feature? You can't access the phone's storage? I'm pretty sure I can access my phone's storage.

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    • Jimbo@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, double sided boi looks like a great way to ruin your phone charging port if you don’t have a usb slot pointing straight up

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      • Tangent5280@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I dont think you’re supposed to connect to both devices at the same time.

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  • uis@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I use KDE Connect

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    • roguetrick@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      KDE Connect

      Why isn’t it Konnect?

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      • androogee@midwest.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Multiple Ks in a row gets risky fast

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      • uis@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        КDE Кonneкt.

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    • booly@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yes, that’s in the picture.

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  • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Can you not just plug your phone into your computer, and then use your computer’s file manager to drag it from your phone to your computer? It’s this not a thing anymore?

    Why the extra step of writing it to thumb drive?

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    • todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      These are the people who take screenshots with their phone cameras.

      OP is just revealing that they don’t understand device-to-device file transfers.

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      • olutukko@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        remember when it was somehow trendy to take a picture with snapchat and the screenshot it to it shows the tools on right and post that on instagram? that shit was stupid as hell

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      • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I still do that all the time. I work with a bunch of different computers and it’s easier than sending a file or writing the info down.

        I get that there’s device to device file transfers, but it’s slower, and other employees would undoubtedly fill my phone with garbage screenshots, if not virus furry porn.

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    • Takumidesh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s not a USB drive, it’s an adapter.

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      • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Nope, it’s a USB drive.

        Quite a few of the usual memory device manufacturers make drives that have a Type A USB plug on one end, and either Micro USB or Type C on the other. They’re specifically meant for one end to easily plug into your PC, and the other end to go into your phone.

        Example: pny.com/duo-link-usb-3-2-type-c-dual-flash-drive

        Or: westerndigital.com/…/sandisk-ultra-dual-drive-m30…

        I have one sitting in my desk that’s so old it still has a Micro USB connector on it and is therefore not terribly useful in this day and age.

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      • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Male to male?
        People are going to plug their phone directly into their computer without a cable?

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      • Empricorn@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Somehow USB disks are still the easiest and most reliable way

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    • majestictechie@lemmy.fosshost.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I would do this before using a double sided USB

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    • kungen@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Maybe not trusting their computer having full access to their phone’s files?

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    • Emerald@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Can you not just plug your phone into your computer, and then use your computer’s file manager to drag it from your phone to your computer?

      That’s right, you cannot. Well, sometimes you can. MTP is quite an unreliable technology, at lease for Linux users. Sometimes you’ll plug in a device and it’ll work fine, other times it won’t even show up.

      P.S. and yes I have enabled MTP on the android device

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      • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Idk
        I just plugged my pixel into my Ubuntu laptop, and tapped on the USB charging notification on my phone, selected “more options” and changed the selection from “no data transfer” to “move files”.

        Then my Ubuntu file viewer could see all my files. Or at least a lot of them.

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    • Matriks404@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Except that if you connect your phone to a computer using USB, it will transfer files using MTP and it’s pain in the ass, as it’s slow and unreliable. Sending files over Bluetooth is better (but not much) over using USB connection.

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    • marcos@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Almost no phone would allow that nowadays.

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      • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Just tried it with my pixel 7 and it worked with Ubuntu. Im pretty sure I’ve done it with windows too, on previous pixel phones.

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    • Empricorn@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      My employer encrypts external drives, including iPads and phones.

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  • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    IR data connection.

    Print out on paper & scan it into the computer.

    Copy the data into the computer with in binary with an electron gun.

    Recreate the data from scratch.

    Install desktop os onto your phone to eliminate the need to transfer data in the first place.

    Use an USB cable to connect the phone to a floppy drive & copy the data to floppy discs. And enjoy the asmr sounds as you do so.

    Bluetooth if all else fails, but using a2dp dial-up frequencies.

    Accept that there is no convenient way to transfer data & just live without it.

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    • DaCrazyJamez@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Place phone on scanner and scan each screen

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      • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Oh, that’s a good one, high tech, no need for extra data conversion on the PC, works for transferring videos as well :D

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    • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Image

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  • swag_money@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    or just a normal ass USB a to c cord

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  • Crafter72@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    github.com/localsend/localsend

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  • kamen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Synching ftw. As soon as I plug my phone into a charger, it starts syncing everything to my NAS. Even if it’s not charging, I can override the rule and force it to sync.

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  • funbreaker@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t even need a double-sided boi because my dumb ass got lucky enough to pick a cheapo laptop with a USB-C port. The little sandisk drive is probably one my best investments into the phone besides the case.

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  • Xylight@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Can’t you just plug your phone straight in and transfer the file? I still prefer KDE connect though.

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  • lengau@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    KDE Connect or Nextcloud. My phone has USB 2, but I can easily top 1 Gbit/s over wifi.

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  • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I usually just plug my phone directly into the pc and copy the file directly

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  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    One thing that really got me while working on computers and networking right as LAN networks became a thing in the late 90s and early 2K years was… I’m connected to this switch, and so are they. Why do I need to burn a CD/use an external hard drive (later a flash drive), to move data?

    Took me a while to figure out SMB/cifs, and when I did … Game changer. Since then I’ve also learned all I can about storage, networking and file sharing. Most of my USB drives sit on my desk and don’t get touched. I couldn’t tell you what’s on most of them. I’ve picked up a few thinking that I’ll use it, but the most useful thing I’ve done with flash drives is to move data between computers when upgrading other people’s computers. For me, I just make sure everything is backed up/synced to my local NAS, wipe the system and reinstall without a care in the world.

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  • Pika@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I use KDE connect…

    But my grandfather does the ol reliable method for image upload, which is:

    1. emails it to himself
    2. prints the email off
    3. scans the printout into his computer again
    4. uploads image to faceboom Facebook

    I typo’d Facebook originally but thay was too good to get rid of so I just strikethrough’d it

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  • vox@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    or just olug the phone into the computer?

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  • simplejack@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wireless file transfers over the LAN. I ain’t got time to find my damn thumb drives.

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  • antihumanitarian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    KDE Connect and Syncthing do the trick for most stuff. For all else, all hail the USB C M.2 NVME enclosure.

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  • todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Not a single network file transfer protocol in the list.

    Imagine not knowing about stuff like SCP/SFTP or SMB.

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  • mlg@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Nintendo DS wireless file transfer lol

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  • n1ck_n4m3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    In Android just selectively enable wireless ADB debugging and then use ADB Explorer. Easier than plugging the phone in, wireless, and allows access to all folders on the device. Turn it off when you’re done. Boom, wireless data transfer to and from an Android device at way faster than cabled SMB speeds.

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  • RomenNarmo@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Kde Connect

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  • patak@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Localsend ;)

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  • thorbot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    SMB has entered the chat

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  • fury@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Sharedrop

    Open source. Works about as good as AirDrop when that isn’t available.

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  • uzay@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    LocalSend does it best

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