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Or we could do metric time

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Gork@lemm.ee⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • RegalPotoo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    As a software dev who has lost weeks of his life dealing with timezones, leap days, daylight savings time, date math and other associated nonsense I fully support this being the way the world is. I don’t want to go through the transition to get there though

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    • lugal@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Bad news: this has nothing to do with timezones, leap days nor daylight saving time. Honestly, leap days would be worse because they wouldn’t be part of the 7 day week

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      • rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s accounted for just like any other leap year, add it to the end of a month. Most calendar models make it July 29. It’s also worth noting that this is actually 360 days, and there are 5 days at the end of each year that’s basically a universal holiday

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      • MalReynolds@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Just make them holidays, everyone works too much anyway, and it’s just getting worse for no reason.

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      • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Leap day gets it’s own name outside of saturday through sunday. It’s an all awesome holiday.

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    • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Developers are the only people against DST changes, just because of how complex it will get. Dear God cities are removing DST! Cities! It means I need to know if you are in or out of a city to know if you need to be shown daylight or standard time!

      Just please do it nationally yes or no

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      • ryannathans@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Write everything in UTC, cast to local time zone for UIs

        Life problems solved

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      • grue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Dear God cities are removing DST! Cities! It means I need to know if you are in or out of a city to know if you need to be shown daylight or standard time!

        That’s why it’s lucky that identifiers in the tz database are already things like America/New_York instead of “eastern time.”

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      • Albbi@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Newfoundland has only just over 500k population and has a nice GMT-2:30 time zone. That’s an extra half hour difference. Many cities are larger so I can see them wanting better time for themselves.

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    • ben_dover@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      thank you for your service, i usually resort to libraries doing the heavy lifting but even then it’s tough and prone to error

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  • Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    A lunar day is 27.3 days and a solar cycle is 29 and change. So we’d be just off the lunar cycles. Like when you’re sitting waiting for a turn lane signal to change and the person in front of you has a blinker that’s just a tiny bit slower than yours.

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    • MBM@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah sadly the rotations of Earth around its axis, the moon around Earth, and Earth around the sun don’t divide each other nicely

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      • HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Why would god do this

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      • blindsight@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        So what I’m getting from this is that we need to pull the Moon a bit closer to the Earth, and the Earth a bit closer to the Sun.

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  • Mubelotix@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    France tried such calendar in 1789 and 1871. We lost it when Jules Ferry executed all communalists in Paris. Some people in France still use those calendars to show their support to revolutionary ideas

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    • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There are a few websites and twitter accounts that remind you that today is Nonidi, 29 Germinal of the year CCXXXII.

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      • brbposting@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Picking up a newspaper in Thailand reminds you it’s year 2567

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        The reckoning of the Buddhist Era in Thailand is 543 years ahead of Anno Domini, so the year 2024 AD corresponds to B.E. 2567.

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      • Mubelotix@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I own such a website and I confirm the date is right. French wikipedia though is wrong as it uses a bad simplication reform that was never voted

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  • silverchase@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    We should divide the year into four suits — one for each season. Each suit is thirteen weeks long, numbered ace to king. Sometimes we have a Joker day.

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    • skulblaka@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ah yes, the Balatro calendar. I play a King of Diamonds, which triples the number of days in June and removes October.

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  • ThePyroPython@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    But how would the corporate world divide the 13 month year into quarters? Don’t you know what that’ll do to the bottom line?! Think of the poor shareholders! /s

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    • NegativeInf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      We dine on the rich during month 13.

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    • SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The solution to that is having 12 months of 4 weeks each, and one week of solstice every 3 months. One quarter then is 13 weeks in total. That makes it so each quarter is exactly perfectly matches a season and keeps it all in sync with solar time. In the ideal case you also match the school holidays to the solstice, and the winter solstice includes new year’s day and leap day, making it just a bit longer for Christmas holidays.

      Yes, I’ve given this a bit too much thought.

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      • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’d put leap day with the Summer Solstice, split up the extra days.

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    • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      3 months and one week. Simples!

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    • Philippe23@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Kodak used this calendar for 60 years. The company’s decline started within a decade of abandoning the calendar.

      en.wikipedia.org/…/International_Fixed_Calendar

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    • kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      3 months 1 week?

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    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Split it to 3 months as is now, then the remainder is 28 days. 28 is divisible by 4 to leave 7.

      Q1 ends 1 week into April, Q2 ends 2 weeks into June, etc.

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  • Hupf@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    We should make the days 28 hours long as well while we’re at it.

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    • Adalast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I actually had this happen once. My mental health actually improved, but it was untenable for my job and social life unfortunately. It was kinda nice for a couple months though.

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      • sukhmel@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Afaik, the effect depends on if you have unusual circadian rhythm or not

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    • blindsight@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What the flying fuck. I literally did that exact thing in university to manage my at-the-time undiagnosed sleep disorder.

      I slept through like 30% of my classes, but it was the most rested I’d ever been in my life.

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  • realitista@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    28*13=364

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    • cori@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      New years day is always a holiday that doesn’t fall on any other day of the calendar. It’s just kind of its own thing. No idea how that would actually work irl but that is usually how this proposal is explained.

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      • watersnipje@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        As a software engineer, I beg of you

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  • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This reminds me of a fantasy series I like, where the world still has 365 day, but every month is 30 days long, and the remaining 5 days are separate holidays for the solstices, equinoxes, and new years.

    Also, when are we going to do 10hrs/day, 100 min/hr and 100s/min?

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    • BakerBagel@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Don’t decimalize time, instead dozenalize our numbers! Twelve is such a better building block than ten. Pretty much all math becomes way easier using dozenal numbers instead of decimal ones.

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      • OozingPositron@feddit.cl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        With base 12 you can actually get a result for 1/3

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    • zalgotext@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Also, when are we going to do 10hrs/day, 100 min/hr and 100s/min?

      This is how you collectively give the entire scientific community a simultaneous aneurysm. The amount of work needed to convert measurements based on our current seconds/minutes/hours to your “metric” seconds/minutes/hours would be astronomical.

      Also, pretty much everyone already agrees on the current system of time, so why change it? It would just create another metric/imperial or F/C divide and cause conversion mistakes.

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      • SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I think we are due another Y2K legacy system replacement global project.

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      • Gondolaaaa@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It would add another level to time conversion between timezones

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    • Sconrad122@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Oh god, converting imperial kHz to metric kHz sounds awful

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      • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Mwahahaha!

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    • ChairmanMeow@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The 24h cycle with subdivisions in 60 is easy for dividing them up though. 60 divides by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20 and 30.

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    • HubertManne@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I like this better because if you have to do one holiday outside of the calendar then why not 5 and the equinoxes and solsctices divide it up perfectly. Then everything else is nice and even. I assume weeks were six days long as that is how I always thought of it. 5 six day weeks.

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      • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Apparently in the series it’s 6 5-day weeks. They also didn’t have names for the days

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  • MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  • ummthatguy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    In preparation for the upcoming Bell Riots, WWIII, Eugenics Wars, First Contact, Battle of Wolf 359, and Dominion Wars, I say we stop beating around the bush and adopt the Bajoran 26 hour day.

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    • exocrinous@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      politico.eu/…/norway-arctic-region-asks-eu-commis…

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  • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This post sponsored by your local landlord

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    • jaschen@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why would they are? The amount they get a year is still the same amount, just broken up more evenly.

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      • Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Most leases state rent is X per month, not a total per year.

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      • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Oh honey

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  • LockheedTheDragon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I do not want my birthday to fall on the same day each year!

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    • NewAgeOldPerson@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Seems like a high price to pay just to test who cares enough.

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  • 01011@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Can we do something about October being the 10th month of the year. It’s stupid and annoying.

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    • meliaesc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Blame the Caesars, Julius for July and Augustus for August.

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      • roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        That’s a common misconception. For the Romans, the year used to start with March and only have ten months. January and February weren’t even named. Several calendar changes followed over the centuries. Adding two months. Moving the new year to January, which made September-December no longer 7-10. Adding random one off months to realign with the seasons. And a couple different tries at leap days.

        This gives a quick overview.

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      • VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I suppose we could fix it by moving the start of the year to March 1st. Start of spring makes more sense for the new year anyway.

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      • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Tbf, the calendar before them was even worse

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    • s_s@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Start the year on March 1st like it used to be?

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    • meliante@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      And September (sept=seven), November (nov=nine) and December (dec=ten)…

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    • blindsight@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You can thank Julius Augustus for that. He wanted the best months named after himself. Egomaniac.

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  • bobbytables@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I hate the idea of metric time (for a lot of use cases metric is still awesome).

    12 and 60 can be easily divided by 2, 3, 4, 6. 60 also by 5 and 10. Even for 8 it’s still kind of easy.

    For 10 or 100 division is easy for 2, 5 and 10 and okay-ish for 4.

    The 12/60 (and 360 degrees of a circle) are such an elegant system!

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    • MBM@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      We should “just” switch to base-6 (or maybe 12) first

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      • bobbytables@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        AFAIK the system goes back to the old Babylonians who had a base-60 system subdivided into 5 times 12. 5 times 12 could easily be counted using your thumb to count the 12 knuckles on the other fingers and the 5 fingers of the other hand.

        I mean, how amazing is counting like that! I only learned to count to 10 with my fingers. I love the base-10 for its simplicity but base-60, subbase-12 is the shit :D

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      • HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        If only we had 6 digits per hand as standard, basic maths would be so much easier for everyone

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    • xkforce@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Get better at math and theres no problem.

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    • SanndyTheManndy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      makes sense in a world without much fractions or the decimal system. You want to get the most divisors for your buck.

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      • bobbytables@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        IMHO especially in a setting like time where fractions are very common (like “half an hour”), being able to represent fractions with whole numbers is very convenient.

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    • pseudo@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Thank you ! Last time I tried to explain this on Lemmy, I wrote my longest comment ever. I’m gonna use you much better explanation next time.

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  • bluewing@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Ah yes, decimalized time. An idea so bad even the French said no, just no after trying it.

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  • Etterra@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ve actual been saying this for years for this exact reason. God forbid we not be able to divide a year into clean quarters.

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  • doubletwist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Can we start the 1st on Sunday though so every month has a Friday the 13th?

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  • MalReynolds@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Just make inconvenient days holidays, few will complain.

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  • colourednumbers@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You left out one day 28x13 is 365 The alignment to the weekdays is only right every seventh year. Every sixth of you account for leap years.

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  • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I like it.

    But mostly because of all the furor it’ll cause.

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  • ben_dover@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    i’m intrigued, but leap days would fuck it up though

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  • belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    We cant ever change it now because people would complain about the cost of doing so. Like freedom units.

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  • Zehzin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Software developer hearing we’re changing the calendar 💀

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  • otacon239@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Don’t forget about Gormanuary

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  • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wouldn’t it make sense to have the 1st be a Sunday and 28th be a Saturday?

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  • Mr_Vortex@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    International Fixed Calendar? I seem to remember hearing a proposal for the 13th month being called Sol which is kinda cool.

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  • zaphod@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You really think the world could come to an agreement on which day the week should start?

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  • cerement@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    perennial calendars – specifically leap week calendars (already implemented in the ISO week date calendar) – keeps all the advantages of 28 day months, and the leap week (instead of a leap day) allows for everything to stay lined up and doesn’t interrupt the 7-day week cycle

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  • uis@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Metric time is TAI

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  • The_Mastermind@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Walter is not as smart as jesse sadly never was

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