A lunar day is 27.3 days and a solar cycle is 29 and change. So we’d be just off the lunar cycles. Like when you’re sitting waiting for a turn lane signal to change and the person in front of you has a blinker that’s just a tiny bit slower than yours.
Or we could do metric time
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Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
MBM@lemmings.world 8 months ago
Yeah sadly the rotations of Earth around its axis, the moon around Earth, and Earth around the sun don’t divide each other nicely
blindsight@beehaw.org 8 months ago
So what I’m getting from this is that we need to pull the Moon a bit closer to the Earth, and the Earth a bit closer to the Sun.
Mubelotix@jlai.lu 8 months ago
France tried such calendar in 1789 and 1871. We lost it when Jules Ferry executed all communalists in Paris. Some people in France still use those calendars to show their support to revolutionary ideas
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 8 months ago
There are a few websites and twitter accounts that remind you that today is Nonidi, 29 Germinal of the year CCXXXII.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Picking up a newspaper in Thailand reminds you it’s year 2567
The reckoning of the Buddhist Era in Thailand is 543 years ahead of Anno Domini, so the year 2024 AD corresponds to B.E. 2567.
Mubelotix@jlai.lu 8 months ago
I own such a website and I confirm the date is right. French wikipedia though is wrong as it uses a bad simplication reform that was never voted
silverchase@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
We should divide the year into four suits — one for each season. Each suit is thirteen weeks long, numbered ace to king. Sometimes we have a Joker day.
skulblaka@startrek.website 8 months ago
Ah yes, the Balatro calendar. I play a King of Diamonds, which triples the number of days in June and removes October.
ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 8 months ago
But how would the corporate world divide the 13 month year into quarters? Don’t you know what that’ll do to the bottom line?! Think of the poor shareholders! /s
NegativeInf@lemmy.world 8 months ago
We dine on the rich during month 13.
SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The solution to that is having 12 months of 4 weeks each, and one week of solstice every 3 months. One quarter then is 13 weeks in total. That makes it so each quarter is exactly perfectly matches a season and keeps it all in sync with solar time. In the ideal case you also match the school holidays to the solstice, and the winter solstice includes new year’s day and leap day, making it just a bit longer for Christmas holidays.
Yes, I’ve given this a bit too much thought.
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
I’d put leap day with the Summer Solstice, split up the extra days.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 8 months ago
3 months and one week. Simples!
Philippe23@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Kodak used this calendar for 60 years. The company’s decline started within a decade of abandoning the calendar.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 8 months ago
3 months 1 week?
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Split it to 3 months as is now, then the remainder is 28 days. 28 is divisible by 4 to leave 7.
Q1 ends 1 week into April, Q2 ends 2 weeks into June, etc.
Hupf@feddit.de 8 months ago
We should make the days 28 hours long as well while we’re at it.
Adalast@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I actually had this happen once. My mental health actually improved, but it was untenable for my job and social life unfortunately. It was kinda nice for a couple months though.
sukhmel@programming.dev 8 months ago
Afaik, the effect depends on if you have unusual circadian rhythm or not
blindsight@beehaw.org 8 months ago
What the flying fuck. I literally did that exact thing in university to manage my at-the-time undiagnosed sleep disorder.
I slept through like 30% of my classes, but it was the most rested I’d ever been in my life.
realitista@lemm.ee 8 months ago
28*13=364
cori@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
New years day is always a holiday that doesn’t fall on any other day of the calendar. It’s just kind of its own thing. No idea how that would actually work irl but that is usually how this proposal is explained.
watersnipje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
As a software engineer, I beg of you
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
This reminds me of a fantasy series I like, where the world still has 365 day, but every month is 30 days long, and the remaining 5 days are separate holidays for the solstices, equinoxes, and new years.
Also, when are we going to do 10hrs/day, 100 min/hr and 100s/min?
BakerBagel@midwest.social 8 months ago
Don’t decimalize time, instead dozenalize our numbers! Twelve is such a better building block than ten. Pretty much all math becomes way easier using dozenal numbers instead of decimal ones.
OozingPositron@feddit.cl 8 months ago
With base 12 you can actually get a result for 1/3
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Also, when are we going to do 10hrs/day, 100 min/hr and 100s/min?
This is how you collectively give the entire scientific community a simultaneous aneurysm. The amount of work needed to convert measurements based on our current seconds/minutes/hours to your “metric” seconds/minutes/hours would be astronomical.
Also, pretty much everyone already agrees on the current system of time, so why change it? It would just create another metric/imperial or F/C divide and cause conversion mistakes.
SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I think we are due another Y2K legacy system replacement global project.
Gondolaaaa@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It would add another level to time conversion between timezones
Sconrad122@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Oh god, converting imperial kHz to metric kHz sounds awful
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Mwahahaha!
ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 8 months ago
The 24h cycle with subdivisions in 60 is easy for dividing them up though. 60 divides by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20 and 30.
HubertManne@kbin.social 8 months ago
I like this better because if you have to do one holiday outside of the calendar then why not 5 and the equinoxes and solsctices divide it up perfectly. Then everything else is nice and even. I assume weeks were six days long as that is how I always thought of it. 5 six day weeks.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Apparently in the series it’s 6 5-day weeks. They also didn’t have names for the days
MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
ummthatguy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
In preparation for the upcoming Bell Riots, WWIII, Eugenics Wars, First Contact, Battle of Wolf 359, and Dominion Wars, I say we stop beating around the bush and adopt the Bajoran 26 hour day.
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
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jaschen@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Why would they are? The amount they get a year is still the same amount, just broken up more evenly.
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Most leases state rent is X per month, not a total per year.
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Oh honey
LockheedTheDragon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I do not want my birthday to fall on the same day each year!
NewAgeOldPerson@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Seems like a high price to pay just to test who cares enough.
01011@monero.town 8 months ago
Can we do something about October being the 10th month of the year. It’s stupid and annoying.
meliaesc@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Blame the Caesars, Julius for July and Augustus for August.
roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
That’s a common misconception. For the Romans, the year used to start with March and only have ten months. January and February weren’t even named. Several calendar changes followed over the centuries. Adding two months. Moving the new year to January, which made September-December no longer 7-10. Adding random one off months to realign with the seasons. And a couple different tries at leap days.
VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I suppose we could fix it by moving the start of the year to March 1st. Start of spring makes more sense for the new year anyway.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Tbf, the calendar before them was even worse
s_s@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Start the year on March 1st like it used to be?
meliante@lemmy.world 8 months ago
And September (sept=seven), November (nov=nine) and December (dec=ten)…
blindsight@beehaw.org 8 months ago
You can thank Julius Augustus for that. He wanted the best months named after himself. Egomaniac.
bobbytables@feddit.de 8 months ago
I hate the idea of metric time (for a lot of use cases metric is still awesome).
12 and 60 can be easily divided by 2, 3, 4, 6. 60 also by 5 and 10. Even for 8 it’s still kind of easy.
For 10 or 100 division is easy for 2, 5 and 10 and okay-ish for 4.
The 12/60 (and 360 degrees of a circle) are such an elegant system!
MBM@lemmings.world 8 months ago
We should “just” switch to base-6 (or maybe 12) first
bobbytables@feddit.de 8 months ago
AFAIK the system goes back to the old Babylonians who had a base-60 system subdivided into 5 times 12. 5 times 12 could easily be counted using your thumb to count the 12 knuckles on the other fingers and the 5 fingers of the other hand.
I mean, how amazing is counting like that! I only learned to count to 10 with my fingers. I love the base-10 for its simplicity but base-60, subbase-12 is the shit :D
HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 8 months ago
If only we had 6 digits per hand as standard, basic maths would be so much easier for everyone
xkforce@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Get better at math and theres no problem.
SanndyTheManndy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
makes sense in a world without much fractions or the decimal system. You want to get the most divisors for your buck.
bobbytables@feddit.de 8 months ago
IMHO especially in a setting like time where fractions are very common (like “half an hour”), being able to represent fractions with whole numbers is very convenient.
pseudo@jlai.lu 8 months ago
Thank you ! Last time I tried to explain this on Lemmy, I wrote my longest comment ever. I’m gonna use you much better explanation next time.
bluewing@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Ah yes, decimalized time. An idea so bad even the French said no, just no after trying it.
Etterra@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’ve actual been saying this for years for this exact reason. God forbid we not be able to divide a year into clean quarters.
doubletwist@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Can we start the 1st on Sunday though so every month has a Friday the 13th?
MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
Just make inconvenient days holidays, few will complain.
colourednumbers@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
You left out one day 28x13 is 365 The alignment to the weekdays is only right every seventh year. Every sixth of you account for leap years.
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I like it.
But mostly because of all the furor it’ll cause.
ben_dover@lemmy.world 8 months ago
i’m intrigued, but leap days would fuck it up though
belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 8 months ago
We cant ever change it now because people would complain about the cost of doing so. Like freedom units.
Zehzin@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Software developer hearing we’re changing the calendar 💀
otacon239@feddit.de 8 months ago
Don’t forget about Gormanuary
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 8 months ago
Wouldn’t it make sense to have the 1st be a Sunday and 28th be a Saturday?
Mr_Vortex@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
International Fixed Calendar? I seem to remember hearing a proposal for the 13th month being called Sol which is kinda cool.
zaphod@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
You really think the world could come to an agreement on which day the week should start?
cerement@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
perennial calendars – specifically leap week calendars (already implemented in the ISO week date calendar) – keeps all the advantages of 28 day months, and the leap week (instead of a leap day) allows for everything to stay lined up and doesn’t interrupt the 7-day week cycle
uis@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Metric time is TAI
The_Mastermind@mander.xyz 8 months ago
Walter is not as smart as jesse sadly never was
RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
As a software dev who has lost weeks of his life dealing with timezones, leap days, daylight savings time, date math and other associated nonsense I fully support this being the way the world is. I don’t want to go through the transition to get there though
lugal@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Bad news: this has nothing to do with timezones, leap days nor daylight saving time. Honestly, leap days would be worse because they wouldn’t be part of the 7 day week
rockSlayer@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s accounted for just like any other leap year, add it to the end of a month. Most calendar models make it July 29. It’s also worth noting that this is actually 360 days, and there are 5 days at the end of each year that’s basically a universal holiday
MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
Just make them holidays, everyone works too much anyway, and it’s just getting worse for no reason.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
Leap day gets it’s own name outside of saturday through sunday. It’s an all awesome holiday.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 8 months ago
Developers are the only people against DST changes, just because of how complex it will get. Dear God cities are removing DST! Cities! It means I need to know if you are in or out of a city to know if you need to be shown daylight or standard time!
Just please do it nationally yes or no
ryannathans@aussie.zone 8 months ago
Write everything in UTC, cast to local time zone for UIs
Life problems solved
grue@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That’s why it’s lucky that identifiers in the tz database are already things like
America/New_Yorkinstead of “eastern time.”Albbi@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Newfoundland has only just over 500k population and has a nice GMT-2:30 time zone. That’s an extra half hour difference. Many cities are larger so I can see them wanting better time for themselves.
ben_dover@lemmy.world 8 months ago
thank you for your service, i usually resort to libraries doing the heavy lifting but even then it’s tough and prone to error