They really want people to RTO

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Tenthrow@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I know a lot of people who work from home, none of them do so from bed.

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- Drusas@kbin.run ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  When I initially became disabled, I tried to keep working desperately. I spent a couple of months working from bed before I had to give up.
  
  Just an anecdote. Most people don't actually work from bed.
  
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- bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I once worked from my bed while I had a mild cold. Had a meeting with many international colleagues from all over Europe. I fell asleep. Luckily I had my camera and mic off. And it was about interfacing with SAP which I needed no help with.
  
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  - Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    SAP meeting from bed. That’s truly hard-mode!
    
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- cactusupyourbutt@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I did it on the sofa, was pretty much the same
  
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- altima_neo@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  My sister…
  
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- asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I read this article the order day and tried working from my bed but couldn’t do it for more than maybe 15 mins.
  
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Nobody@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
While slumping over a desk for 9 hours straight improves back health. Prevents 100% of cases of lumbago.

It’s not just that the old money dragons of commercial real estate are losing money, it’s also that middle management nothings need to exert their authority over you in person to feel relevant.

WFH makes every company money on decreased overhead. The war against it is 100% commercial property landlords that collect rent in the billions.

Fuck every single one of those fucking assholes. They are destroying our world to squeeze out just a little more.

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- intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I mean if our zoning wasn’t so overly strict, those real estate holders could cash in on enormous rent prices by transforming that commercial space into apartments.
  
  Then there would be more housing supply, rents would go down, homelessness would improve, and those real estate holders would be able to get back to making profit, and there’d be less lying about the pros and cons of working from home.
  
  All of it could be better, through the mechanism of consensual mutual profit that we call the free market. If only the government weren’t constantly enforcing largely arbitrary rules about how this block can house people but that block can only be for offices.
  
  Keeping rendering plants away from preschools is fine. Arbitrarily telling people they can’t put beds and kitchens into a commercial space and let people live there is not.
  
  There’s profit being lost AND people going homeless because there is a third party constantly preventing us from making the deals that mutually improve our lives.
  
  And they’ve convinced you the real estate owners are the evil ones.
  
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  - bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Unfortunately the building codes for office and residential buildings are very different and it’s damn near impossible to convert many offices into residences.
    
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Conyak@lemmy.tf ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Sitting at a desk for 8 hours a day is also bad for you so what’s the point. This bullshit propaganda is really starting to get old. Working from home is better for a lot of people. Corporation need to get over it.

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- SupraMario@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I’m betting it’s better for more people as well. Eat healthier, take more breaks, move around more as well.
  
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  - Conyak@lemmy.tf ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    This has been 100% true for me. I started working from home at the beginning of the pandemic and haven’t gone back. I lost 45 pounds in the first year and have managed to keep it off since. It’s all because I can eat better by making my own meals at home.
    
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  - hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Also less stressful environment.
    
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- EatATaco@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  This article isn’t about wfh vs office. It’s about not working in bed so you don’t disrupt your sleep.
  
  It’s amazing how many people who see “propaganda” everywhere can’t see blatant spin when all of the evidence is right in front of them.
  
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r00ty@kbin.life ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
People work from home in their bed? I've been doing this for a decade and a half now. I don't think I've worked from my bed once. Now I have a dedicated office but when I didn't I, you know, made a small surface my desk area and brought in a chair.

Regardless, it's propaganda of a sort. For sure.

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- EatATaco@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I was WFH for about a decade too. I didn’t work from my bed, but I sure as hell took meetings that I didn’t really need to be in, or was more of a passive participant in, from bed. Always close to my computer (on the same floor) so I could get back if I needed something, but those were the best useless meetings.
  
  But I don’t get how this is propaganda. It’s not suggesting that people RTO, it’s saying they should not work in bed because it will hurt their sleep. The whole “RTO” part of this was spin put on it by the submitter. So, I guess, on second thought, maybe you are right.
  
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  - r00ty@kbin.life ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    But I don’t get how this is propaganda. It’s not suggesting that people RTO, it’s saying they should not work in bed because it will hurt their sleep. The whole “RTO” part of this was spin put on it by the submitter. So, I guess, on second thought, maybe you are right.
    
    Why I think it probably is a form of propaganda, is purely because the headline says Working from home is causing it. If they didn't want to front-load a negative view of WFH the headline would be "Working from bed unhealthy" or similar.
    
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- Dkarma@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Working from bed rn.
  
  It’s great.
  
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  - EatATaco@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    If you ever start wondering why it’s hard to sleep, you might have your answer right here.
    
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- EnderMB@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Same, about a decade for me too, and never worked from my bed once.
  
  If I’m tinkering with something, I might sit on the sofa or lie in bed for half an hour, but no way would I work from bed. Sounds like a sore neck waiting to happen…
  
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- aniki@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I FREQUENTLY work from bed, specially at night when I’m watching both TV and some script I wrote do it’s thing.
  
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- Conyak@lemmy.tf ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I do if I’m feeling under the weather. I have a bed that can be raised into a seated position so that’s nice. I prefer my desk when I’m doing more mentally intensive work though.
  
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- afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I have definitely answered work emails like that
  
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ladicius@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Propaganda is really getting dumber.

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ScruffyDucky@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Better than office rotting

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Starkstruck@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
That is straight up not what bed rotting is. Bed rotting is when you’re so depressed you can’t bring yourself to get out of bed at all. Like, it’s a mental health condition, not lazyness.

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Ansis@iusearchlinux.fyi ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Working from home is awesome, working from bed is not. And people wonder why they have trouble falling asleep…

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- mPony@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  you know who didn’t die in a car crash on the way to work this morning? People who WFH
  
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  - EatATaco@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    As I said elsewhere, there is zero in this article about RTO. It’s all about getting out of bed to work so you develop good sleep habits. Y’all are getting played by the submitter so easily.
    
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  - HeartyBeast@kbin.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    It’s the deep vein thrombosis that gets ya
    
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reverendsteveii@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Luckily i built a home office and gym with all the money I saved not paying for 2 hours of commuting, parking and getting lunch 260 days/year. I’ve never been in better shape mentally or physically!

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- Carrot@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I don’t have the space for a home gym, but I do use my money and time I save from my commute to pay for and use a gym subscription. Also easily the best shape physically and mentally I have ever been
  
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DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
fknlol - like people WFH are working from their bed. I can’t think of a more uncomfortable location for my to do my job from. Except the office five days a week of course…

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FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Cool. You know what I got from sitting in a cheap office chair all day at work?

Hemorrhoids.

I’ll take “bed rot.”

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- Coreidan@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Uhhhh I think you might want to look into your diet. Chairs don’t give hemorrhoids. A bad diet will tho.
  
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  - FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Yeah, okay. The bleeding started when I started working there and stopped when I sat on a hemorrhoid pillow. Must have been my diet.
    
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  - voracitude@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    You’re wrong about chairs. You’re right about a bad diet, but sitting for 10+ hours a day will cause or exacerbate haemorrhoids. One of many sources available on the internet: www.mayoclinic.org/…/syc-20360268
    
    Not to mention personal experience. Thanks for chiming in, though.
    
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- EatATaco@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I’m impressed at how much time you spend on lemmy, and how little you spend actually reading any of the articles you get outraged over.
  
  There is absolutely zero in this article about RTO. It’s all about not working in your bed as that can develop poor sleep habits. It’s all about acting in a way so you get good sleep. Why anyone would get outraged over this or turn this into part of some grand conspiracy between the media and big business to get people back into the office is beyond me.
  
  Clearly this is what the submitter is attempting to imply. Don’t be so easily played.
  
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  - FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Cool. I didn’t want to read a page full of spammy bullshit, as OP suggested. Sorry that wasn’t okay with you.
    
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EdibleFriend@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
That’s bad for the laptop tho. Get one of those little bed tables.

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- pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  It’s a Mac Book. Getting hot enough to fry an egg is a feature.
  
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  - BorgDrone@lemmy.one ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Only on the old Intel models.
    
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  - GBU_28@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    New m3 doesn’t
    
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elvith@feddit.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
In contrast to office rotting?

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- PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  In contrast to Living Room Thriving. Just use the whole house you paid for.
  
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sunbytes@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
It’s not a condition.

It’s a word someone made up to shame people into going against their best interests.

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- EatATaco@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  You think developing good sleep habits by only using your bed for sleep and intimacy is against your best interests?
  
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  - AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Bed sores existed before. It’s not really a new condition.

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RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
TIL “bed rotting” is a TikTok term for avoiding the world as a way to deal with burnout until you decide to come out of bed. Doesn’t sound bad on the face of it, but obviously being immobile for long periods isn’t great.

How that transitioned to essentially working from bed and the problems with immobility I don’t know.

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- r00ty@kbin.life ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I'll have you know, I avoid the world just fine from both in and out of my bed!
  
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TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Who’s calling it this?

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- GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Rich people
  
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  - GladiusB@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Shitty rich people
    
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_cnt0@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Re sauce:

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I can’t browse through the brain rot 😢

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- Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Translation: “Europe will sue us if we place the cookies we want, but our advertisers will sue us if we don’t”
  
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- ickplant@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  ARTICLE:
  
  Ever since the coronavirus pandemic, working from home has become normalized. But working from home can also lead to a very bad habit called bed rotting. This new trend encourages people to stay in bed for passive activities, but that can spill over into work.
  
  “I’m not one to, like, get up and get ready every single day. But I need my screens. I need my monitors. I need my set up,” said Caroline Wharry, who works in marketing from home a few days a week.
  
  Wharry said working from home is a new type of lifestyle, but bed rotting sounds somewhat lazy and uncomfortable.
  
  “I take my meetings, and when I’m on meetings, I try to have my camera on. So, I do not understand how they’re doing all of that from their bed,” Wharry said.
  
  Elise Vader, a physician’s assistant and sleep specialist with University Hospital, said people could also develop insomnia.
  
  “For general health. We know that being active and moving is important for the body, for your mood, for your muscle health, for your heart health,” Vader said.
  
  A Sleep Doctor survey found about six out of 10 remote and hybrid workers say they bed rot during work hours. Four out of every 10 men say they are more likely to bed rot compared to just two out of every 10 women. And four out of every 10 bed rotters say they were influenced to do it because they heard about it from others.
  
  “The No. 1 thing is when it comes to what we call sleep hygiene, which is like the best way to get the most healthy sleep, you know, keeping your room cool, dark and quiet, staying away from screens. This kind of goes against that,” said Marten Carlson, a sleep science coach.
  
  About 40% of bed rotters say they spend one to two hours working from their bed, and about half of those bed rotters say they spend at least half of their day in bed.
  
  “When we think about sleep, especially when you’re doing activities in bed, you’re training your brain that the bed is for being awake and active,” said Dr. Kristi Pruiksma, an assistant professor in the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at UT Health San Antonio.
  
  She advised that the bed should be used for sleep and intimacy only.
  
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Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I read this from bed, and I will become a literal cenobite before I return to my office desk

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Apytele@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
It is genuinely bad for your sleep hygiene to do alert and awake things in the sleepy place. It weakens the sensory cues of the sleepy place. You have to create a separate awakeness place to do the awake things. But all this takes is a standing divider/curtain and a $20 desk from goodwill or habitat for humanity.

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johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Bed sores are not a new thing.

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- casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  yeah I was about to point out that corpos certainly did not just invent the word “bedrot” for their own benefit. This has been a thing for a while. Nurses often have to walk patients who are admitted for several days to prevent “bed rot” symptoms.
  
  If you were staying in bed all day, every day, yeah you’re gonna get some severe health issues pretty damn quick. But if you’re getting up and moving around regularly, you shouldn’t worry… but in that case, it would make more sense to idk buy a desk, sit at a table, or on the couch. A laptop in bed is not practical and certainly not comfortable with the heat it generates. Quite frankly I don’t understand why anyone would ever choose to use a laptop in bed if they have other options available.
  
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  - Ephera@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Because comfy.
    
    I don’t even disagree with your points. I do notice that my back muscles will quickly undevelop, if I work from bed all day.
    
    But on Monday, I had a stressful day in the office, so I had no qualms spending yesterday working mostly from my bed.
    Similarly, someone who does more sports than me could easily counteract the effects.
    
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GarlicToast@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’m not a brain-rotted manager, I know how to buy a desk and arrange a work station.

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crusa187@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Corpo propaganda resulting in a condition called “Brain Rotting”

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LilDestructiveSheep@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’d like to know who funded this “study”

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- Gabu@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Literally nobody. They just wrote any old shit in a piece of toiled paper.
  
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bitwolf@lemmy.one ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Maybe the new WFH people during pandemic.

I suspect that the many who always were remote have better habits established to make WFH healthy.

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6mementomori@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
sadly there’s also bootlickers who’re willing to take the sides of people who want to abuse them

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- intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  “Everyone else wants to abuse you. Considering perspectives outside of this group’s perspective is being a bootlicker. We’re the only ones who can trust because we’re going to turn you into a hero who saves the world through bitterness and resentment”
  
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match@pawb.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
the only rot I have is brain rot ❤️

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- altima_neo@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  And dragon rot
  
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UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I hear working from home makes your dick small, pass it on.

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BenchpressMuyDebil@szmer.info ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
working from bed right now. in my lane. flourishing.

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possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I need a poster that has the signs off bed rot

This reads like a Onion headline

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