Open Menu
AllLocalCommunitiesAbout
lotide
AllLocalCommunitiesAbout
Login

Lawful evil

⁨602⁩ ⁨likes⁩

Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/4041fe75-c7de-4876-90c8-c12dbdc62115.jpeg

source

Comments

Sort:hotnewtop
  • MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s not how tips work

    source
    • nullspace@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The algorithm demands the enragement bait.

      source
  • usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The customer paid for delivery already; it’s not the guy’s fault Uber Eats doesn’t pay you enough

    source
    • Obituarykidney@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      And the service fee, and the priority fee so it’s not cold, and the mark-up on the food

      source
      • ByteJunk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        “Your driver is delivering another order first”

        Sure ask me again for that tip, APP. Do it. I dare you.

        source
        • -> View More Comments
  • Xenny@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    As someone who actually makes the food I think drivers shouln’t get tips but instead should be paid more. They should also have full vehicle maintenance covered whole driving for work too. The whole delivery service thing is a grift that is eroding the resturaunt industry hard. Things will need to change soon

    source
    • capt_wolf@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Tipping culture is bullshit anyway. If you run a business where you can’t afford to pay your employees enough without going out of business, then your business shouldn’t exist.

      source
      • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        They can afford it. But the make more when they completely shaft both the customer and the driver.

        source
        • -> View More Comments
      • charokol@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Tipping culture is bullshit. But if somebody doesn’t want to participate in tipping culture, they should refuse to patronize businesses that do participate in it. Somebody who stiffs people that depend on tips to make a living isn’t doing anything except being an asshole

        source
    • Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think all tipped staff should instead be paid livable wage, but still be allowed to collect tips. Tipping should be something you do to flirt with the waitress or reward a team that did a really outstanding job

      source
      • BreadOven@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah… Maybe not the flirting part. Otherwise agreed.

        source
      • moonshadow@slrpnk.net ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You’ve got an interesting idea of flirting lol

        “Hey baby, here’s some cash. More where that came from ;)”

        source
        • -> View More Comments
  • Molvorin@feddit.dk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This is so weird to read as a European… Tips here are almost frowned upon

    source
    • lokalhorst@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      In Germany it’s pretty common to tip a bit, even if not nearly as much as in the US. I wouldn’t know what to tip for a 300€ order though because… What the fuck, did they order cocaine?

      source
      • Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Fuck if I know. 5€?

        source
        • -> View More Comments
      • Enekk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        The fun thing is that we’d be expected to pay between 15 and 20 percent on such an order.

        source
        • -> View More Comments
    • Fmstrat@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I hear this a lot, but it doesn’t seem true anymore. Every country I go to in Europe, tipping culture is creeping in and more expected in small amounts.

      source
    • M137@lemmy.today ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      In many cases, yes. But when it comes to delivery services like this that has a history of underpaying and bad working conditions it just makes sense to tip IMO, and absolutely do it in hand and not via the app or whatever. I very rarely order food, and when I do I always try to stay clear of these kinds of delivery services. But it’s often hard to so, and when there’s no other option I always choose something that has a deal and then give the difference to what it would have been directly to the delivery person (not sure what the right word here is).
      About a month ago I was at my moms place with my half brother and the local delivery app, foodora, had a 40% deal for any order from our favourite pizzeria so that was an obvious choice, when I gave the 40% of the total to the delivery person they almost started crying and that just felt so damn good. It absolutely sucks that this situation even happened, they should be paid more and have way better working conditions etc. but we all do what little we can with the reality we’re in. I made some actual difference for someone and I’ll take that.

      source
      • Leonardo_da_Vinci@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You made it worse. Now instead of asking for a raise or changing a job he would hope for another client to gift him money.

        source
  • 404found@lemmy.zip ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Correct me if I’m wrong but the job is basically:

    Accept an order (or don’t if you don’t feel like working)-> Pickup the order you didn’t have to pack-> Deliver food & sometimes have 0 interaction with customer -> Hope for tip 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼

    I’ve worked for tips before. I can relate to the anger of the delivery driver but an Uber Eats job seems so simple that it’s almost insulting to the customer that a tip is even getting discussed. P.S. I do tip

    source
    • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Correct me if I’m wrong but the job is basically:

      You’re wrong, but it’s understandable. The key point you’re getting wrong is: You make money from a job.

      The pay for most of the assignments you get from DD or UE is usually not enough to cover fuel, let alone maintenance on your vehicle. Certainly less than minimum wage for your time. Which is legal for them to do, because you are a contractor, paid per job and not per hour. If the customer doesn’t tip, you are earning less than minimum wage at best. In many cases, you’re actually paying to work, but you’re forced to take these unprofitable orders just to maintain your rating and keep getting assignments. (In my area, drivers call this “eating shit”)

      At best, you can take about 6 assignments an hour. To net minimum wage, you need at least three of them to tip well. When a restaurant doesn’t bother to start preparing the order until you arrive, the time you waste waiting is 2-3 orders. If any of the remaining orders that hour don’t tip, you’re below minimum wage.

      It is a shitty, exploitative service that nobody should be using. If you are going to use it, be aware that the service is taking everything you’re paying, and completely shafting your driver.

      source
      • Leonardo_da_Vinci@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Client does not need to be aware of how much each worker in the chain earns. He is aware of the price he is buying the food.

        Same as delivery guy is aware of money he gets from the job. If he doesn’t like the money, he should not take the job. Tips are totally optional bonus.

        source
        • -> View More Comments
      • NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Wow sounds like you should have found a different job than a job that doesn’t make money!

        source
        • -> View More Comments
      • 404found@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That makes more sense. It seems drivers are almost set up to fail. You can make big tips but you are more likely to get no tip or be under tipped.

        source
        • -> View More Comments
    • myyass@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think the tipping should be dealt away with. Instead something like: vehicle value, insurance cost, vehicle depreciation, maintenance, fuel costs, idle vehicle use time, “acts of god”–traffic accident delays, unexpected failures (wrong orders basically); should be factored into the pay instead of hoping for tips.

      Then again none of this would exist if that was done.

      source
      • SeptugenarianSenate@leminal.space ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        money should be done away with. all it does in practice is launder good will into the violent withholding thereof

        source
        • -> View More Comments
  • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It seems that the driver doesn’t need to know the value of the box they are delivering. They should expect the same tip from a $3 box and a $300.

    source
    • SomethingBurger@jlai.lu ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      $300 of food is probably multiple bags. They can guess the cost if the average Uber Eats order is $30.

      source
      • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        More bags, higher delivery fee makes sense. But it doesn’t matter if it’s 2lb of ramen or 2lb of lobster.

        source
  • cRazi_man@europe.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Conversation with the wife:

    “Are you pregnant?”

    “No”

    “Well some asshole left his trash on my windshield. And can you believe that a 3 course meal from a midrange restaurant costs $300 now?? WTF.”

    source
    • jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, random stuff happens and normal people don’t assume something like a pregnant mistress.

      One time someone left a few roses under my windshield at work on valentine’s day. I assume someone mistook my car for someone else’s, not that I had some secret admirer who wanted to do a pointlessly anonymous gesture.

      One time someone let out the air from one of my tires overnight in my driveway, for no apparent reason and it caused me mild annoyance.

      Anyway, fake internet story for fake internet points.

      source
    • dalekcaan@feddit.nl ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think the implication would be that an angry mistress left it

      source
      • gastroglizzy@piefed.social ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I think the implication is that a healthy relationship wouldn’t be phased by such a stunt.

        source
        • -> View More Comments
  • ElChinchilla@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Bringing kids into a world while this is the backdrop of one’s life seems almost heartless.

    source
  • Tiral@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Enormous $300 Uber order… So like two numbers 1s from Chick fillet?

    source
    • myyass@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Oooof. Don’t hit that hard please.

      source
  • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I thought for uber eats the “tip” was a bribe you have to add to your order ahead of time to ensure it even gets picked up?

    source
    • Notyou@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Now there’s a pay ~$5 extra option to have your order delivered first. I doubt that goes to the driver. I tip pretty well when I do order but I’ve been getting barely warm food for awhile. Once I did tip less and just pay the $5 fee to get my food faster. Just more enshittifaction.

      source
      • NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Now with extortion!

        source
    • Siethron@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They don’t know the tip until after the delivery. I’ve had a driver be like “they’re making me wait to pick this up, please add a tip for extra time” (yeah ok buddy) I had already put a large tip on the delivery. I really wanted to remove it after the driver pulled that shit though.

      source
  • Janx@piefed.social ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    2 things can be simultaneously true:

    1. Tipping culture in the US is absolutely fucked and employers should be paying their employees
    2. Underpaid workers currently depend on your tips to survive
    source
    • spectrums_coherence@piefed.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Now, I just elect to not order any delivery at all. There is a 15% service fee, a delivery fee, AND food markup because they charge restaurant like 30%.

      I am not sure how is this a fair deal. The guy ordering $300 worth of food probably already paid $60-$100 to get his food. This is already why higher than the traditional delivery service. The price tag just no longer makes sense for me.

      source
      • RamRabbit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Now, I just elect to not order any delivery at all.

        Yep. I just pick it up myself. If someone can earn a living by driving for 10 min, I guess I can too. ;p

        Though, I have mostly just cook. Eating out is extremely expensive.

        source
      • Janx@piefed.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You’re absolutely right, but none of those charges go to the delivery worker. That’s what we’re talking about…

        source
  • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Instead of this moronic “voluntary” expectation, let’s all save thousands of hours of arguments, posts, and complaints from everyone involved and add 20% to the bill for the worker done and done.

    Sometimes you don’t want to tip? No shit. I don’t want to tip. I don’t even want to pay. But I do it.

    Let’s all do what we want, good idea, everything is free and nobody works and we can just run through the woods and frolic which sounds like a good idea until you get hungry

    source
    • Stefan_S_from_H@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Whenever I see Americans talking about tips, I imagine them like just another tax they have and not add to the price before the customer pays.

      source
      • motionofethre@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        You just don’t understand the freedom

        source
        • -> View More Comments
    • Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      No no no, see here we add 7 dollars for “delivery” and as you would correctly assume, that goes directly to the CEO’s 4th yacht.

      Then we shame the customer into dropping another 15 or 20%.

      I’ve recently just stopped tipping for any company that puts a fake delivery fee in their subtotal (or outright stop ordering from them when possible).

      source
      • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I worked for a place that did this, i.e. added a delivery surcharge which the house kept. I discovered that this is, in fact, illegal in my state unless it is disclosed in writing. Which it wasn’t.

        When we had a new point of sale system installed, as our restaurant’s resident tech person I naturally adjusted the settings so that the delivery charges got put into the employees’ tip total rather than into the owner’s pocket.

        The owner never noticed.

        source
    • NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      How about we take 20% of the owners pay.

      source
    • jqubed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The problem is the delivery companies are abusing the definition of “tip” and how they pay their drivers. I used to drive deliveries for DoorDash and they typically only pay $1.50-2.50 per delivery, despite charging $6-8 for a delivery fee, on top of prices typically being 30% higher than the menu in the restaurant. As a driver, the rule of thumb is typically that you shouldn’t take a job paying less than $1/mile. So the rest of the money for the driver comes from the “tip”. A tip is supposed to be a bonus reward for good service, but the reality of the situation on these delivery services is that it’s just the rest of the delivery fee to the driver. The delivery companies know if they list it as an actual delivery fee they’ll lose customers because some customers will feel like the fees become too excessive. So instead they exploit inexperienced drivers into taking orders thinking they’ll get a tip later, but often end up with nothing. And customers who think the tip is actually a tip according to the original definition and voluntary often end up with bad service because experienced drivers will pass on the deliveries, meaning they sit and sit, with food getting cold while the delivery service eventually starts offering to increase the pay in 25¢ increments after a certain number of rejections. Sometimes orders will sit for a couple hours before someone will finally take the order. This is still bad for the drivers, because the customers will often leave them a bad review, blaming the driver for the order taking so long to arrive. The driver doesn’t know what part is “tip” until the delivery is complete.

      The reviews are another bad system. Historically people think of a 5-star rating system goes from 1 star being terrible, two being below average, three being average, four being above average, and five being excellent. However, rating systems often rank anything below five stars as bad. So people will leave a four star review thinking that’s good but as far as the company is concerned is bad. IIRC DoorDash drops any driver with a rating below 4.7. And we see this problem a lot of places online: product reviews on shops, online business reviews, even hotels where 3 stars was traditionally decent now see that as bad.

      source
  • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    needs to get exploited to cover bills

    let’s have a baby :D

    while I am moderately humored by the initial gesture, you and your partner are idiots, CJ

    source
    • StabbingSky@lemmy.zip ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Not everyone who does it is doing it to survive. My coworker just does it when he’s bored and his wife and kid are gone.

      source
  • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    They paid $300…

    source
  • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    always the victim, these delivery drivers…

    source
    • spicehoarder@lemmy.zip ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Even if the story were real… The average Uber Eats payout is like 2ish dollars per delivery.

      source
      • potustheplant@feddit.nl ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Sounds like they should be complaining to Uber, rather than consumers.

        source
      • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        This. And at best, they can get about 6 orders per hour. That’s about 12-24 miles on their odometer, which is $3-6 worth of gasoline in city traffic. At best, they net $6 to $9/hr before tips.

        source
  • ch00f@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The stripes on the tests fade. It wouldn’t be that visible after three months.

    source
  • daannii@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Well. …timeline isn’t quite plausible. As these line tests fade pretty fast.

    In a week it would be basically white with no lines.

    Maybe 2 weeks.

    Still funny tho

    source
  • davidagain@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’d say that’s chaotic rather than neutral.

    source
    • Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yes! Who cares about tips; get your alignments right, you cretin.

      source
  • MsPenguinette@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Imagine being single and actively casually dating and having this just run in your head for the rest of your life. Never knowing if someone is going to show up to your door and introduce you as the parent. I think part of the terrorism is that it’d affect everything, and be especially hainious if you want to be a parent. Youd have to tell future potential long term partners that there may be a child out there. I think might be one of the most long term cognitohazard pranks I’ve seen

    source
    • luthis@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I don’t think the recipient in this case is sexually active. It seems not even just the tip…

      source
    • Sergio@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
      • 1% probability: someone is pregnant and just never told me.
      • 99% probability: someone is playing a prank on me.
      source
      • NikkiDimes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        And that 1% will eat you alive.

        source
  • HerbGrower@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Vindictive delivery drivers like this are yet another reason why I only make my own food.

    Also, you know, I don’t have 300 quid to spend on 1 meal.

    source
    • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Also, you know, I won’t spend 300 quid on 1 meal.

      Parties tho

      source
      • HerbGrower@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Did I stutter?

        source
        • -> View More Comments
    • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I mean maybe if you tipped us we wouldn’t have to be so vindictive 🤷

      source
      • HerbGrower@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Yeah and then it becomes omg that was only 10%. Fuck that. I would rather not participate at all.

        source
        • -> View More Comments
  • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    And he knew it was his car because…

    source
  • CkrnkFrnchMn@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Brutal hehe…

    source