As a millennial the only positive of LLMs is that younger generations won’t threaten my career
I'm not sure they will
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dudeface@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Younger generations are, by and large, as technologically illiterate as boomers are. It doesnt apply to all of them, but the majority of them grew up with nothing but easy UIs. They may not chicken-pick to type, but they still cant troubleshoot anything and tend to know nothing outside of interacting with a typical interface. They definitely grew up with nothing like Windows 95 or 98 (or even XP) where you had to actually understand how a computer works to some extent to use the thing (or fix it)
Tower@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Wholeheartedly agree. This is from 2013, and I feel it’s only gotten worse since then.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Arguably even windows 95/98 was rediculously easy compared to dos or Unix systems before it.
Sit a kid down in front of a c64 with a manual and see if they can do anything on it. If they can read the manual that is…
Sure these systems are “obsolete” but the brain training is priceless. Kids now are training their brains to love ads and corporations. Its gotten super bad. And I’m not even an old person (just been into tech history my whole life) so its rediculous I’m even saying this.
Malica@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
We tried to teach ours and got “dad can you just fix it I’m in a game”. Then no desire to learn in free time.
lastweakness@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The older gen z too I would say
kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I think all the time about how a lot of boomer guys know how to work on cars real well.
This is because most of them took auto shop classes in high school.
As a millenial, I’m great with computers… because I learned how to use them in school. It appears that after I left school, educators were like “welp, kids know how to use computers now!” and stopped teaching kids how to use computers in school. This is both bonkers and mind numbing. I also wish I knew more about working on cars. Anyway.
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
As a millenial looking to change careers, because I was done with the old one. No, it sucks!
thingAmaBob@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I agree. I am more than happy to pass the torch when the time comes. I certainly don’t want to work forever, but I also want to be able to train competent replacements at some point.
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
They will if you don’t use AI though
dudeface@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Don’t believe you, seems like useless nonsense to me
Bumrocky@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Here’s the funny thing … they never worked to begin with!
MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
I cannot stress enough how correct this is. It feels like it’d be similar to early Covid lockdown. People with real jobs that contribute to things are still working while everyone else with the cushy meaningless jobs are sent home to do nothing where they complain and make things harder for the people actually doing things.
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I literally quit my job to join them because I couldn’t take it anymore and was met with an insane amount of harassment. Apparently I had be lucky to be considered essential.
DandomRude@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s a good comparison, because it illustrates very well why LLMs are so (seemingly) successful. If this useful technology were used primarily by the people who actually worked during COVID, there wouldn’t be a problem, because these people are very good at assessing what’s possible and what isn’t - since they actually understand their work. The problem - and the absurd hype - arises simply because LLMs reinforce the completely absurd ideas of incompetent people - and these are the ones who had nothing to do during the pandemic, since they do nothing but schedule pointless meetings and waste the time of those who are actually doing something meaningful.
emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
This is why it’s important to distinguish between LLMs and AI. Turn off all LLMs and life will go on. Turn off all AI and you lose everything from automated supply chain management to room ACs.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
AI is such a broad term is to essentially be meaningless. My thermostat does not use AI it uses a very simple algorithm.
We have a OCR system at work that runs on a Windows XP computer, people used to call that AI until about 10 years ago.
ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
LLMs are just a more complicated algorithm though. AI would be a pretty useful term so long as people are sure to make that distinction and only use AI to refer to a truly complex algorithm. Calling a thermostat algorithm on an A/C “AI” is definitely a meaningless use of the term
emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
it uses a very simple algorithm.
That is AI too. If a machine can make a decision based on some input, it is AI. A (functional) if statement in a programme makes it AI.
ekky@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Jup, it’s as if everyone magically forgot about pre-deep-learning AIs the moment Microsoft and OpenAI appropriated the word AI to mean LLM++.
Turn off ALL AI and you’ll have windmills and power plants go rogue, ships will loose navigation and stabilization, planes falling down from the skies, and most important: the NPCs in your video games will only be able to react with the most simple interactions - terrible, truly!
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 weeks ago
Turn off all the AI and I can’t play Halo anymore because the enemies don’t do anything
pieland@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Ribbons@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
So far, so good.
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SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
You are assuming they worked to begin with.
AI has been an amazing tool for those with no ability to think, think slightly.
Like a peg leg helps a amutee walk.
farmgineer@nord.pub 2 weeks ago
As a software engineer, please do.
Randelung@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’ve actively started doing tickets manually again. Just reviewing is exhausting, and yes, in part because I’m overwhelmed by what I don’t understand. I’m somewhat new in our codebase and letting AI do all the work means I’ll never get to know it in depth. That means I’m not meeting the productivity goals managers have already adopted, though. :/
thoralf@discuss.familie-will.at 2 weeks ago
This implies that the brains worked before. Looking at the world, this is quite a bold assumption, I would say …
likebudda@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
I write well enough for the e-mails I’m required to send, I don’t code, I have no use/desire to generate “art,” and I don’t like search results I have to double check so I’ve been blessed (cursed?) to not have to use “AI” in my daily life.
cardboardboxfort@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If we shutdown AI there’d also be a massive hiring spree and wages would probably tick up a bit to compensate. AI is just the latest scam to suppress workers and wages. They want perpetual suffering for us and infinite gains for themselves.
trolololol@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They weren’t using their brains before ai, what made you think they would now?
Are YOU using your brain right now?
antianarchist@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
ddplf@szmer.info 2 weeks ago
oh okay
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
But how should I feel about that
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Please turn it off… I am currently dealing with a
bunch of fuwell meaning but intellectually challenged individuals at an IT team who just reimaged a machine running the master database for one of their sites based on what a chatbot told them.Now what concerns me most is that this site operates critical life saving equipment. While our software isn’t too important, some minimum wage workers are about to have a very high stress weekend is about the worst that will happen and then early next week it should be back to normal. But the same IT team has access to the life saving equipment as well.
Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Not sure who needs to hear this but… the average person isn’t using AI for anything important, nor likely anything that really involves much thinking. Heck they aren’t even choosing to use it, they are just doing a google search. Some of us use it for work. But for that case, I refer back to my first sentence.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
the average person isn’t using AI for anything important
You’re discounting all the students who are using AI to make it seem like they’re learning something.
Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I guess I also discounted all the people using AI to generate the stupid report their upper management wants but never read. That really does improve their quality of life. :)
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
We should turn off AI for a week to see if people notice.
It is completely useless for the vast majority of users. By vast, I mean almost everyone.
DaleGribble88@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Something a friend and I were discussing today was that you can’t really avoid AI and remain productive right now. (We both teach university Computer Science.)
Ignoring how so much of modern society is running on it, you’d have to complete isolate to avoid it and it’s reach entirely.
Additionally, the tooling and infrastructure to support how things were done just a few years ago has all been stripped away. Online search is ass on every major engine right now, most of the forums are dead, documentation and discussion lives inside of private Discord channels. It feels like there just isn’t a back to go back to anymore.
SirLeToet@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
People are severely overestimating the importance of AI. It’s more FOMO than anything else.
Wait until you have to pay non-subsidized prices for the use of LLM’s, how productive are they in reality when the real costs come in to play? And you could just train and hire actual people to do the job far more accurately with some quality control?
Not denying there’s some fields with great benefits from LLM’s, but writing emails, answering phonecalls aren’t it. LLM’s cant even transcribe conversations with any proper accuracy and as a society we now trust them to make decisions.
It boggles the mind, really.
DaleGribble88@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
On the contrary, it does a great job with responding to work Emails! I paste in the chain and prompt it “How can I tell this person to fuck off in corporate speak?” And I haven’t been fired yet! ;)
kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Hi, I work in the trades. AI is not a regular part of my life. I have never used any of these chatbots because they seem… half-cooked. Like an Early Access game on Steam. Anyway, the whole thing has zero relevance to my job.
“you’d have to complete isolate to avoid it and it’s reach entirely.”
Nah. I mean, obviously for you, teaching computer science, I can see why you feel this way. But lots of people truly never engage with this stuff because it’s pretty underwhelming. My main interaction with AI thus far has been telling my doctor not to use the chatbot that puts lies into people’s medical records, and that’s about it.
“Online search is ass”
Isn’t this, like, explicitly because of AI?
DaleGribble88@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Oh brother, you have no idea, do you?
This shit is a cancer that has spread all through b2b processes. If you’ve bought gasoline over the last 6 months, all of that was coordinated via AI. Everything from order placement, rights trading & selling, distribution route planning, etc. it’s also worth noting how many phone support jobs have shifted to AI.
Pretty much all fraud monitoring for banks are run by AI now. Both checking transactions and if you call and report a fraudulent charge directly.
Further, you are using Lemmy right now. It is almost certainly running in a docker container, which a tool developed with AI contributions and an integrated AI feature set, and inside of that docker container is almost certainly a Linux distribution, which was developed with AI integrations.
It all ties back to my point that if someone was going to completely shun all things powered by AI, they would basically have to disengage with any system that has been actively developed, updated, or almost even just maintained over the last few years. It isn’t ubiquitous yet, but it is fast approaching that point.
Isn’t this, like, explicitly because of AI
I mean, more or less, yes? That is essentially the point that I was making. The old ways aren’t as effective anymore because they have been replaced with AI. And just not effective as in effective when compared to using AI, but not effective because the infrastructure, systems, and communities that made the old ways possible have been uprooted.
RT69@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Or forever.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
The CEO’s brains are definitely broken. The rest of us? Mostly fine.
myyass@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The funny thing is my friend was all on the AI train. Lately he finally agrees with me that it’s trash, they had him use it at work and he spent more time fixing the code.
hissingmeerkat@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Everybody thinks AI can do every job except their own.
myyass@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It has benefits, just like copy & paste. So I guess it saves wear and tear on your hands lol
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Something similar happened in January 2013. In protest of the SOPA/PIPA bills that threatened section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, Wikipedia went dark.
It got everyone’s attention, especially students, who had grown accustomed to Wikipedia’s ubiquity as a resource.
ReCursing@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
But then what would y’all complain about?
FishFace@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Oh god, the brainrot’s got to you, too! You don’t even remember what people complained about 3 years ago!
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Politics, same as we do now, everyone complained about politics.
DmMacniel@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Politics, bigotry, transphobes, homophoves and right extremism on the rise. Those sorts of things.
ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Fuckin homophoves, man
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Centralized social media!
hissingmeerkat@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
My sibling has learned incompetence from AI. They show off the things they had AI make and how they never could have done that themselves when they are things they know how to do themselves (make simple graphics and presentations), and would take much less time than they say they spent refining the prompts.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Can you also turn off LLM generated websites for that week? If so, deal.
HeHoXa@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Hey Siri, when is the AI turning ba-GOD DAMMIT
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Legitimately my problem when the internet stops working. My first instinct is to go on the internet and search for what the blinking light means.
HeHoXa@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I set up an ollama bot for exactly this scenario 😂
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
An actual picture of 2026 from the “no pivot to AI” universe
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
I hope the withdrawal symptoms are gonna be on par with alcohol withdrawal.
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
We should turn off AI.
Psythik@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Semi-related: I turned off spellcheck and autocorrect for a month to see what happens. Turns out I’m more dependant on it than I realized.
biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
At this point I’d rather turn it off, since iOS spell check csnt stop replacing real words with those I accidentally butchered once
rumba@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I can totally turn it off, but it’s going to slow me way down as I’d re-read everything and go back and make edits.
Nangijala@feddit.dk 2 weeks ago
My autocorrect is my nemesis. The phone I had before this one had pretty solid autocorrect, but this current one has an autocorrect that is so terrible I’m forced to correct my autocorrect constantly.
Should probably do what you do and turn it off and see what happens.
TRex91@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
True. I’m also using it a little bit to much. And also a little problem for me. Using Spellcheck for two Languages.
kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I turned off spellcheck and autocorrect years ago when I first got a smartphone, and never looked back.
Hikermick@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Eff it. Turn off the internet and see if folks can figure out the Dewey Decimal System
Mucki@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Is there even any AI anywhere? I 've never seen any. No company has any AI. Am I missing something? I know only LLM, ANN, DL, and so on…
slazer2au@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
When do you think we will see people doing Lent but with AI instead of food.
red_tomato@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The global economy is probably already dependent on some Claude code instance updating an Excel spreadsheet on someone’s laptop with a note ”don’t close the lid!” attached to it
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
When I was a teenager I used to work at an airport and they had critical infrastructure running on things like Basic and Assembly, to transfer data between the computers and modern systems you have to use floppy disks because the computers that they ran on didn’t have drivers to support USB and we couldn’t upgrade the computers because the software wouldn’t work on any other hardware.
So the AI laptop will be at home amongst all the ancient but supercritical junk that seems to be necessary to run our world.
dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
At a previous job, I had to build laptops that would multi-boot DOS, Win95, Win98, and XP, all on one laptop. Our field-tech’s software had to have those specific versions of windows for the machines that they serviced, because of how the software interacted with USB and embeded floppy drives.
If you want to scare yourself:
spoiler
They serviced Medical devices: X-rays, MRIs, CT-Scanners, etc.
SorryQuick@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
That’s dumb. The “work” in maintaining this excel file was the prompting and overall agent logic. In reality you’d be using something like openrouter and the instant claude “dies” for whatever reason you swap to whatever the freshest AI is. This never becomes ancient, it keeps up with the times.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 weeks ago
I wonder if Proton can run these ions softwares
whoisearth@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Reminds me of some stupid company maybe a few months ago that had their PRs failing due to copilot being down the dumbasses didn’t build an “if no AI” failsafe into their workflow. And no one knew how to recover it
chisel@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I know my work already has reports built by running data through Claude and having it spit out an xls. Though, it’s not quite as integral as the all-important closet laptop.
grandel@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
This guy ITs