And are getting exercise, eating healthy, etc.
Rich ppl live longer
Submitted 1 month ago by FundMECFS@piefed.zip to science_memes@mander.xyz
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BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 1 month ago
gilesroberts@feddit.uk 1 month ago
In the UK where everyone has decent basic health care on average you live 2 years shorter if you own a horse. It’s worse than riding a motorcycle (1 year shorter). It turns out that owning a big animal that will kick you if you look at it funny or throw you off if it gets startled by a packet of crisps isn’t that great for your health.
cabillaud@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I always thought horses could murder someone because that’s their idea of a good joke.
notabot@piefed.social 1 month ago
I’m not a horse person, but having been around several, my understanding is that horses don’t joke about that sort of thing. They take it very seriously indeed.
That, and, as the previous commenter said, get spooked by a rogue crisp packet, their own shadow, or the fact the sun has come up again.
chgxvjh@hexbear.net 1 month ago
We need a comprehensive study that compares health outcomes from getting your face kicked in, between the US and the UK.
Zephorah@discuss.online 1 month ago
You don’t typically have a horse without money.
zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 1 month ago
Typically all horses have no money. What would a horse even do with it anyway. And they don’t even have pockets to put in it.
Skipcast@lemmy.world 1 month ago
What about a horse with no name?
Maeve@lemmygrad.ml 1 month ago
A horse is a horse is a horse of course, unless it’s a talking horse, of course.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 month ago
horse people love to tell you how they have no money because of their horses though
West_of_West@piefed.social 1 month ago
My wife’s family would be the atypical version. Income wise they were below the poverty limit, but because they farmed a quarter section in N. Alberta they had lots of horses.
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Most horse people I know (me included) are BROKE because we choose to have horse(s) when we really shouldn’t. Bad financial decisions for sure, but most horse people have a passion for the creatures and don’t let things like finances get in the way.
There have been days where I’ve skipped meals in order to buy my horse her supplements. Not many days, but a couple. My bond with horses is what keeps me going when I’m at my lowest, so I refuse to give them up. My mom and grandma will occasionally sneak me a few bucks to help because they’re almost as invested in my horse as I am.
Here’s the horse tax:Image
Lemmine@feddit.org 1 month ago
Oh hi Sandy
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Nice yee yee ass horse you got there
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 1 month ago
She looks better than she did lol. Spent 2 years rehabbing her. She’s also old as fuck, so she’ll always look a lil yee yee ass
Maeve@lemmygrad.ml 1 month ago
If you have access to a relative’s land where you can pasture and have a barn, eventually you can lower the cost of boarding and feeding, but the cost in labor may not be worth it.
The savings in feeding comes from planting horse-friendly grains, but only if you do the labor. Horses are gorgeous, intelligent, powerful creatures, and I send best wishes that you maintain it as long as you care to do.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Kind of like all the sugar substitute correlation “studies” that keep saying sugar substitutes cause the same diseases that being obese cause. Hmmm, I wonder who typically consumes sugar substitutes…
hansolo@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Flip side of the studies that show people that eat almonds as a snack live longer.
Almonds are fucking expensive, yo. If you’re snacking on almonds, you’re doing OK already.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 month ago
what? they are fairly cheap for a nut. that’s why they are so ubiquitous.
most other nuts cost more, excluding peanuts
FundMECFS@piefed.zip 1 month ago
Good point, has any good prospective study been done on this? Seems like something that really should be studied with methodology that can prove or disprove causation.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Yes, artificial sweeteners are literally the most studied food in human history. There are a lot of different chemicals involved so I won’t make any sweeping statements, but all of the most popular ones have been proven over and over to be harmless.
But then things get complicated because the sugar lobby will fund a study where they inject an absolutely insane amount of sweeteners into their blood and it obviously fucks them up. Then they publish a study about how the sweeteners cause all kinds of ailments. But when you actually look into it (nobody does) you realize they injected the equivalent of drinking 100 Liters of soda per day, which obviously nobody does.
OwOarchist@pawb.social 1 month ago
Also, if you own horses, you’re probably going out to take care of them on a daily basis, which means you get at least a little bit of mild exercise every day. That would help a lot, compared to people who are entirely sedentary.
fodor@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Health care. Not insurance. Care.
xav@programming.dev 1 month ago
Depends on the country.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 month ago
In what country is having insurance superior to having care? The care is always the goal.
TrumpetX@programming.dev 1 month ago
All these comments are great, but the real mystery is:
Why did someone overlay a different font on top of the original graphic rather than just make a whole new graphic? Like, the work is exactly the same, and the rest of us can view sane font placement.
fake@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Original probably said ‘correlation’ when it should be causation. The correlation is established in the headline.
FundMECFS@piefed.zip 1 month ago
That was exactly what I did lmfao. It was technically incorrect, so I made it technically correct lol.
gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 1 month ago
because changing 1 word is less work than changing the whole text?
ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world 1 month ago
Jr researchers are using AI to comb through cancer research datanases and every time they come back with data linking racial minority to worse outcomes or faster tumor progression, and proposals to review genetic differences.
Never does it link that non rich people don’t go to a doctor unless it’s very bad, and so present at later stages of cancer, and can’t afford the better personalized treatments.
The entire world of dog cancer research has recently collapsed not because there aren’t researchers invested in the work or that there aren’t clinical trials available, it’s that dog owners can’t afford to even travel to clinical sites for treatment.
It’s heartbreaking
OwOarchist@pawb.social 1 month ago
Never does it link that non rich people don’t go to a doctor unless it’s very bad, and so present at later stages of cancer, and can’t afford the better personalized treatments.
Also…
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Poor people are more likely to work in dangerous jobs that expose them to carcinogens.
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Poor people are more likely to work outside, where they’re exposed to high levels of UV, causing skin cancers.
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Poor people are more likely to live in less desirable places, which may be located closer to industrial sites that spread carcinogenic waste into the air and water.
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Poor people are more likely to eat highly processed foods that increase cancer risk.
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Poor people are more likely to be obese, which increases cancer risk.
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Poor people are more likely to smoke and/or be exposed to second-hand smoke.
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Poor people are more likely to have high stress levels, which increases cancer risk.
There’s a million different non-genetic reasons why racial minorities (who tend to be poorer) would have higher cancer rates.
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I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Why is the word “causation” photoshopped on? What word was there originally that would have changed the meaning enough to warrant photos hopping a different word there?
ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 1 month ago
OP replaced “correlation”
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Just remember, you’ll always be third to a horse girl after her daddy’s money and her horse.
OwOarchist@pawb.social 1 month ago
She’s really good on top, though.
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
No, she’s not. The horse does most of the work.
darklamer@feddit.org 1 month ago
Tru dat.
BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 1 month ago
To be fair, I’d choose a pile of money and a horse over myself any day so I don’t blame the girl.
kamen@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Is this an US joke I’m too European to get?
modus@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Owning and Maintaining a horse is expensive. So is private health insurance. Most Americans can’t afford either.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 month ago
you don’t have horses in europe?
bedwyr@piefed.ca 1 month ago
Everyone that isn’t a tool already realizes the differences between causation and correlation.
Granted those that realize this already are not perhaps even a majority now int eh US.
FundMECFS@piefed.zip 1 month ago
Many literal scientists assume the correlations they find are causative without much thought. Definitely a pervasive problem the assumption of correlations as causations.
14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
they will pay for it. every single person who mistakes causation and correlation will die!
bedwyr@piefed.ca 1 month ago
The real reason though, those scientist trained hacks are signing on to what they are paid to, to design studies to work backwards from poisoning the population is actually totally safe.
But yes.
InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Granted those that realize this already are not perhaps even a majority now int eh US.
Yeah, that’s the thing.
There are pockets of people who are clued in and take the time / have the time to process what they read/see & hear. Those people seem to be fewer and harder to find.
I don’t think people are generally just plain dumb (I know unpopular opinion), but I think a good majority of us are in sensory and informational overload and human understanding of the world has likely never been so complex nor moved so quickly.
This is all happening during a modern renaissance period for malicious misrepresentation (i.e. convincing lies). And even if people are too “dumb” to tell truth from lies, they do recognize that the lies are coming in rapid fire and from every direction. Easier just to tune out and not think too much about all that, otherwise it’s depressing.
Don’t forget that older folks are aging into cognitive issues, younger people have only known this as their reality, poor people are struggling to make ends meet with no time to stop and think, and so many of the ones who’ve “made it” are doing their best to keep it all conveniently compartmentalized away and out of sight.
So, yes, sometimes you do have to be direct and spell otherwise obvious things out for people. The struggle is real.
This is a case where it’s obvious there’s no direct causation, but so often it’s not this clear, and even the really smart people sometimes mess that part up – intentionally or otherwise.
airgapped@piefed.social 1 month ago
Implied Causation #2: health insurance has a bearing on longer life
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Health insurance doesn’t equal Healthcare
hyphen0175@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Implied Causation #3: Health insurance isn’t effective at insuring health, thus the implied causation needs to be explicitly noted
Infamousblt@hexbear.net 1 month ago
I dunno, I know a lot of people who can somehow only afford a horse. Maybe they are outliers
Codpiece@feddit.uk 1 month ago
Or maybe they live somewhere with universal health care and don’t need health insurance?
Infamousblt@hexbear.net 1 month ago
Nah I live in America we don’t have healthcare here
boonhet@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
10% of the US is millionaires and wealth is quite segregated by location so depending on where you grow up or live, it’s entirely possible to mostly only know rich people while most of the country lives paycheck to paycheck and a large amount of people can’t afford healthcare. It’s inequality again, yay
Just mentioning this because the thread itself and the person you responded about referred to the US. Not actually American myself.
average@hexbear.net 1 month ago
In my experience horse people tend to be like motorsports people. Usually it’s a family thing and the basic needs for entry into the hobby are already met by the generational involvement in the activity.
laserm@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Here everyone can afford insurance since it’s mandatory and tied to your paycheck
ieGod@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
In the civilized world, you don’t need to struggle for health care.
cholesterol@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Headlines need to not mislead, yes. But people also need to read beyond headlines.
anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 month ago
This goes for all animals btw. Their company makes us live longer. Very well established research.
It goes for human companionship too. Humans live longer with company.
trashboat@piefed.social 1 month ago
Shiiit for a second I thought that said “Implied Caucasian”
Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 1 month ago
Heads up that Justin King guy is extremely sus with ties to US intelligence and human trafficking.
wallwood@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Horses whose owners have a yacht live longer
Tiger_Man_@szmer.info 1 month ago
Quexotic@infosec.pub 1 month ago
I’ll just leave this right here.
Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Magical domesticated equine!
qarbone@lemmy.world 1 month ago
What was there before “causation”?
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 month ago
I would change “health insurance” to “health care”. I have had better care when uninsured and negotiating prices in cash than when I had terrible health insurance I couldn’t afford to use and never got any care.
Danika7@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Joyful people live longest.
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 1 month ago
People who live longer:
People who drink a glass of wine every night.
People who buy organic and cook whole foods at home.
People who spend 30+ minutes a day being activr/at the gym.
People who get 9+ hours of sleep every night.
People who have less chronic stress.
People who get regular checkups/screenings at the doctor.
So… rich people that have the time and can afford to do all of those things or have them done for them.
Devial@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The glass of wine is likely due to a selection bias in Tea Total people. Most people who are completely sober, are so either because they are recovering alcoholics, or have other health issues.
Most people who are healthy and have no prior alcoholism issues drink at least occasionaly, which introduces a selection bias favouring people with health issues as strict non drinkers, which causes not drinking at all to be correlated with worse health than drinking occasionally.
TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Idk… a lot of gen Z people I know just don’t drink at all
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 month ago
i grew up poor and did most of those things, except from the organic whole foods stuff.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 1 month ago
There are different levels of poverty that vary drastically in quality of life, and are highly dependent on what region you live in.
Being poor basically anywhere in Europe is a lot easier than being poor in America. Being poor in a state like California or New York is going to be easier than being poor in Oklahoma or Alabama.
Different regions have different local governments that have a huge impact on the social safety network afforded to the working poor and the disabled.
In my experience, I haven’t known very many poor people who weren’t disabled that had a lot of extra free time on their hands. Good habits are hard to keep when you work two to three jobs 6-7 days a week to make a wage that barely pays the bills.
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I had to sell all my free time for some ultra-processed foods
Naive@lemmy.world 1 month ago
How does wine taste? I really wanna taste wine before I die.
awfulawful@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
It varies dramatically for different types of wine, even within the broad categories (red, white, rosé, etc.). Some wines are grapier and will be reminiscent of juice you’ve had. Others are further away from that. Invariably they will taste different if you’ve never had wine before, even moreso if you’ve not had alcohol.
If you are interested in wine for the experience, I’d recommend situations where it’s well-paired with food. The best wine I’ve ever drank has been with good food that complemented it.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
The crazy thing about wine is that it tastes wiiiiiiiiiiildly different based on the grape and process.
ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 1 month ago
A good bottle of wine is only in the $20-$30 range. IMO, every wine I have ever had that costs more than $30 is not any better than wine that is $30. Ive tried quite a bit of different stuff up to $75-$300 bottles that I got for free. None of it was worth more than a $30 bottles, at least to my palette. The one exception probably being Veuve Cliquot champagne, which is really good but costs like $50.
There is a pretty big difference between a $7 bottle of wine and a $30 bottle of wine though. Honestly wine is kind of an acquired taste, and there are a lot of varieties. If you want something good but also cheap then you cant go wrong with a $10 bottle of sweet table wine. Any other kind of wine its worth it to spend for something in the $20-$30 price range
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Tastes a lot like grapes that have gone off, actually. So just imagine that. Maybe you’ll live longer.
flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
If you haven’t tried it because you have to avoid alcohol, good news - alcohol free wine is hitting the market.
Tbh, it’s not the most amazing example of wine, but the ones I tried were not awful either. It would give you a good how wine tastes like.
natecox@programming.dev 1 month ago
There are notable exceptions, but in general:
White wine: candy.
Red wine: asshole.
OwOarchist@pawb.social 1 month ago
Pretty terrible, honestly. My review is: “Ugh, this grape juice has gone really bad!”
Maeve@lemmygrad.ml 1 month ago
What is social murder, Alex?