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Play games with your neighbor to sink even lower! Canada rules!

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨roserose56@lemmy.zip⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • mrmisses@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Trump: this is Obama’s fault. Republicans: I knew it

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  • SirMaple__@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • xavier666@lemmy.umucat.day ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I love cobra chickens! Very representative of Canada.

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  • Lanske@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The whole earth should boycott the Yanks

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    • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The country should be sanctioned out of existence.

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      • StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Plus their little pal Israel. I saw a meme making a case for the biblical ark being built in North America. Perhaps we could convince Bibi and his cronies Israel should actually be in the American Midwest. We’ll see how many Yanks support Zionism when so-called ‘settlers’ are killing their neighbors and taking their homes.

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    • Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The word you are looking for is sanction.

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    • kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      that’s what i’m doing here in finland

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  • jobbies@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Love this but i’ll bet Facebook/insta/Amazon/apple/etc are as popular as ever in Canada.

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    • rbos@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Digital. Services. Tax.

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      • lesinge@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Bring it back. Fuckem.

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      • Pixel_Jock_17@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You’re suggesting USA taxes Canada for using digital services?

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      • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The whole world needs this TBH.

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    • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s what happens when companies illegally leverage their monopolies to extinguish any competition.

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    • Polyphilic@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The reality is most people just dont care where a service originates from, as long as its good. You wouldn’t think it based on the internet, but most people arent on the internet to make points about things.

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      • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        But they aren’t good.

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      • TexasDrunk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That’s part (the lesser part, but still important) of why I hate when news orgs use an angry dude on twitter as their example of someone who is up in arms about something.

        The Internet is not representative of the population. The people posting are self selected. It’s the same reason if you go looking for coffee advice you’ll find a thousand posts with advice about roasting your own beans while most people are drinking Starbucks, Dunkin, Folgers, and Maxwell House.

        The great majority of people do not give a shit what the Internet is doing. A lot of people look but only a teeny tiny slice are posting about it.

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    • imvii@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I only use Facebook for my business. Mostly just social posts about things which act as promotion. That said, I’m not seeing the results I saw a few years ago. Far fewer interactions on posts, almost no comments. I’m not sure it’s worth doing these days. We get more client contacts from our webpage than via facebook. We’re doing a ton more business these days than a few years ago, so I know it’s not coming from Facebook.

      We have a business instagram account as well, but I use a third party to post to facebook/insta and it commonly has an issue posting to instagram. I have personal facebook and insta accounts but I never use them (expect to log into the business accounts). As a user, I can’t stand either of those platforms.

      I don’t subscribe to any streaming service. Haven’t for over 3-4 years.

      I do use youtube. I also have a business and a personal youtube account that are monitized so I throw videos up a few times a month.

      I only use Amazon for my business and even then orders are rare. I try to order from Canadian vendors when possible.

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      • dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You use lemmy. No one you know uses lemmy

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      • jobbies@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That said, I’m not seeing the results I saw a few years ago. Far fewer interactions on posts, almost no comments.

        I know someone who used FB for business. They said engagement was amazing to start with but it was as if FB started hiding their posts to encourage them to pay to promote them.

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      • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I bet you’re crowded out by spam on Facebook/Insta. I hate to say it, but playing the spam game seems almost expeced for businesses now.


        …TBH, itd be fair to roll your own advertising spambots. Participate in the corruption of Facebook/Insta.

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    • ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I wonder how many people are going to boycott Steam?

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    • Pixel_Jock_17@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Probably but those services are shit anyways and people should stop using them.

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    • Malyca@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Europe is working on alternatives, it takes time but I think people will switch.

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  • Cruxifux@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In a way, as a Canadian, I’m glad for Trump for two reasons. One, we hated him so much that the conservative candidate in our federal election lost what should have been the easiest conservative win of my lifetime because he threw in support behind trump. And two, we are finally diversifying our economy away from that volatile ass country.

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    • Banana@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      gotta say i agree, and while I realize Carney is just another 2008 conservative, at the very least he is competent.

      that being said, do you think we are headed for an orange official opp considering PP’s dwindling popularity with Lewis’ growing popularity?

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      • CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I doubt the people are ready for another orange wave, at least until Avi Lewis gets the local activist networks going again. On that note I encourage people to actually join the NDP and help get things rolling. Membership is very affordable (depends on region, was <$20 for me) and they will put every dollar and minute you’re willing to give to use.

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      • Cruxifux@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        No. Not from what I’ve seen anyway. Last poll I saw the NDP was sitting at like 8 percent federally. Idk hopefully I’m wrong.

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    • BurgerBaron@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I just don’t think it’ll last unless we diversify our media away from the USA too.

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      • Cruxifux@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Given most people get their media from the internet now I don’t see how we can effectively do that.

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  • Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Well, most Canadians. I gotta say, maybe not surprised, but definitely irked that Carney is trying to encourage Canadians to put US liquor back on the shelves.

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    • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That was always a bargaining chip. It wasn’t super significant from an economic standpoint, but it’s an easy thing to remove liquor from the shelves, just a decision by Premiers. Liquor producers have way more influence in the US relative to the actual economic impact. That makes a very good bargaining chip. Don’t know why you’d be upset over Carney wanting to use that bargaining chip.

      It’s a moot point now, pretty sure US booze isn’t going back on the shelves anytime soon after the collapse of trade talks.

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    • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think he’s trying to encourage the premiers to allow US brands back onto the store shelves.

      If that were enough to make a deal, it wouldn’t be awful. I think a lot of Canadians wouldn’t buy the liquor if it was back on store shelves, so it might not change much.

      It could be a good negotiating tactic, because the Americans might think that it meant that the revenue for US alcohol companies might start flowing again, when in reality it just puts it directly in the hands of Canadian buyers, rather than in the hands of the Premiers.

      What’s more annoying to me is that Carney is going to go with counter-tariffs. That just means that if Canadians choose to buy American products they have to pay more. And, since the US is so monstrously huge, in many cases there aren’t alternatives to American products.

      What I think they should be doing instead is investigating American companies for antitrust, allowing Canadians to circumvent DRM to do things like install alternative app stores to deprive Apple / Google of revenue, allow Canadians to work around printer ink restrictions to use any ink they want, allow Canadian farmers to repair their own tractors without John Deere’s approval, etc.

      Instead of raising Canadians’ costs, deprive American companies of the unfair IP rules that they use to make massive profits. Those rules were forced on Canada in exchange for the US agreeing to barrier-free access to the American market for Canada. If the US is withdrawing from their own trade deals, then Canada shouldn’t feel obliged to uphold its obligations under those deals either.

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    • clanker_victim_555@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Pretty sure that no longer applies after we just walked away from the table.

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    • humanspiral@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My best guess for what happened where some of the details leaked Friday were palatable, and Provinces removing bans, while (as Manitoba) said “please don’t buy any of their shit”, was Provinces technically okaying the deal, as long as there were loopholes like bad prices.

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  • uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We learned in Trump 1.0 that he is extremely isolationist and wants to cut the US off from the world like it’s North Korea.

    The way an abusive spouse cuts their partner off from all other social contacts.

    The way FOX News encourages its viewership to stop watching all other media sources so they’re in an information silo.

    And the US voted for him again, because we vote based on vibes and bigotry. Because we have forgotten our civic duty to vote responsibly. Because we are suckers for lying confidence men who make ridiculous promises.

    So the US is due for more than a bit of harsh finding out. We should have learned after George W. Bush. We didn’t and FA’d. (Effed A?)

    Anyhow a lot of Americans have cut off their MAGA relatives and neighbors. It is no surprise at all that Canada — and the entire international community — might do the same.

    I’m skeptical the US is going to survive to the November election, much less the new Congress in January.

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    • fodor@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Also the US voting system disenfranchises minorites disproportionately and uses the electoral college, which is anti-democratic (i.e., non swing state district votes affect nothing)… So it’s not simply a matter of shitty voter choices. Those happened in coordination with other shit.

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  • pentastarm@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • Kacerdias@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    American here. It genuinely pains me to see what little goodwill we had left in the world be squandered by the Turd Reich. Seeing your neighbors vote this totalitarian wannabe in a second time, embrace the hateful propaganda fed to them, as everything becomes unaffordable and AI datacenters, Flock cameras, and prison camps filled with innocent immigrants. So many of us are fighting back however we can. Those of us using legal means see the rules quickly changed to thwart us. Those using less legal means are vindictively prosecuted while pedophiles in power are left in peace. I don’t fault the rest of the world for turning their backs on us - it’s justified.

    Please know that the regular people here still love our neighbors to the north and don’t want the longstanding friendship between our countries to die. We don’t want to annex Canada (nor Greenland). We’re sorry and are desperately trying to fight against this cancer that’s killing our country.

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    • SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      some regular people*

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  • Talaraine@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I'm an American who didn't vote for trump and none of this is my fault.....but fuck it make it hurt harder daddy, we deserve it uwu

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  • smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We are Canadian, we are NASTY: No American Shit, Thank You.

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    • Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I prefer, we are nice and polite….until we aren’t.

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      • WanderingThoughts@europe.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The classic “I’m sorry” and “you’ll be sorry”. It starts with the first until given reason to switch to the second.

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      • Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This is it, right here, and not just in regards to warfare, which is where this reputation gets a lot of it’s legs.

        Honestly, polite and accomodating until deliberately crossed is a huge part of national identity, but it’s not really expressed it seems like. We all know we are this way, but internationally, we still seem to have the pushover vibe which is weird and stupid.

        Come at us ya hosers.

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      • smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        We’ve been plenty polite. We can still be polite, but still be elbows up, gloves off.

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  • Malyca@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s what I would do if I where there. I’m in the Pacific Northwest and we feel the tourism squeeze here. I don’t care. You can’t insult your closest friend and bully them. I want the US to suffer the consequences, for a good amount of time, so every idiot is aware of the reasons for their pain. Not to mention Canada is beautiful. I could vacation at Banff or even in the far east for the rest of my life and be fine, you guys will be fine and even happier spending money to support your own countrymen.

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    • Suck_on_my_Presence@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Also in the PNW. I just feel super bad for all the people living in Point Roberts. The tariffs have been murder on them. I wish Canada could just quietly absorb them.

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      • Malyca@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Me too

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  • imvii@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Can we do export tariffs on potash now? I think an extra 30% is reasonable.

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  • Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Unfortunately, the fact still remains that Carney has basically abandoned every environmentalist initiatives to inject money in the economy because of this trade war. Every country on heart os now inveting way more in military. There’s a huge cost to all of this, millions will die of consequences of the Trump era.

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    • conquer4@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Your a bit late, millions have already died due to Trump. www.npr.org/…/trump-usaid-foreign-aid-deaths

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      • fracture@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        millions will die. millions have died, too. but millions will die, also

        grimest post i’ve made, i think

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    • Paddzr@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It was gonna happen regardless of the trade war or not.

      Line must always go up, not down.

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  • FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    • US economy collapses because of spending all its money, and money it didn’t have, on AI,
    • Canada gives up trade talks and imposes 50% tariffs on the USA, matching America’s trump tarrifs on canada
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    • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If Canada sells the US bonds it holds, that US debt becomes very expensive.

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      • ajikeshi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        uhm… i think canada will be late to the party in that case… us bonds are currently being sold by basically everybody… so their interest rate for new issued ones currently skyrockets… this will wreck the government in 20, 30 and 40 years (or whatever the duration of the bonds are/will be)

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  • Worstdriver@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Only one nation has ever invaded Canada, and we taught them the error of their ways. If necessary, we will teach them that lesson again.

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    • FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      We could go to war and there would still be people in both countries completely fucking oblivious

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      • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Nope. Americans are used to having wars on the other side of an ocean. Those are wars you can be oblivious of. When drones are buzzing overhead and you see smoke rising from the strategic targets in your city, you can’t drive to work because the bridge was taken down and there’s military checkpoints everywhere asking to see your papers to prove you aren’t Canadian? I think Americans will notice that.

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      • Worstdriver@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        True, there are idiots everywhere. Btw, if you have never done so, I highly recommend Pierre Burton’s two part book series on the War of 1812.

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  • Redvenom@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The art of the deal

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  • HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I cannot wait for trump to shit himself to death. Or at least fall down and hit his big fucking orange face.

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  • BurgerBaron@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m totally fine never buying anything American ever again.

    The only pain point for me is computer parts. They’re already insane, this makes them 50% more expensive on top of that because x86 is USA dominated.

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    • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      ATI Technologies Inc. (ATI) was a Canadian semiconductor technology corporation based in Markham, Ontario, that specialized in the development of GPUs and chipsets.

      BRING THEM BACK!

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      • felsiq@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Aren’t they just AMD now?

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  • Avicenna@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You don’t understand it is 5D chess

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    • Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      By playing checkers against your opponent and scamming as much money as possible from your pawns?

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      • ReptilianCleric@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        My brain broke a little bit your statement was so stupid. So, unfortunately, I’m sure you’re 100% correct.

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      • MML@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They prefer to be called kings, despite never reaching the back row.

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      • Avicenna@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        if you move your pawns to the end of the board and then move them up in the z-axis, you have successfully extracted tariffs from them.

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  • TimboSlice@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I wish I could export myself to Canada permanently

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    • daggermoon@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I wish I could export myself from this fucking continent.

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      • speckofrust@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I have no idea what your situation is, but I’d be willing to bet you could make it happen if you give it some thought and take a few leaps of faith. Your life may change in wonderful ways.

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  • chunes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Gotta love all these delusional posts that somehow ignore that Canada has no chance to make a difference due to the population difference. Furthermore, Walmart is currently deep-sixing a whole bunch of Canadian products that are subject to tariffs. that doesn’t really sound like a Canadian win to me. That doesn’t bring me joy, but let’s not be delusional here.

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    • clanker_victim_555@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What part of we’re, in a trade war. That means taking hits to our trade. Get used to it or give in. Don’t you understand?

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      • chunes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        What part of the image in the OP did you not understand. It’s trying to paint the whole thing as nothing but a win for Canada.

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    • eestileib@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Carney was right to walk away, but the retaliatory tariffs are just going to further punish Canadians on top of this.

      Times are about to get really tight.

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  • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Death to America!

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    • Bo7a@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Death to the demoness Allegra Geller! Death to eXistenZ!

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      • lastunusedusername2@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        makes a gun out of chicken parts

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      • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Take your pills, we’re talking about politics here.

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  • COASTER1921@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is just what they want no? Fewer foreigners visiting the US is good in their books I thought.

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  • huquad@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    America: I’m bleeding making me the victor

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  • thisbenzingring@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I had a girlfiend from Canada when I was young, you wouldn’t know her

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  • FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    An old friend of mine from university was recently in New York with her kids and posted pics of Central Park on Facebook. And I wondered how fucking oblivious is she

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  • x0x7@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    When are people going to learn that exports aren’t even good. The export market just gets a lot of play in politics because of concentrated interests. Exporters lobby. Politicans present arguments to justify what they are doing for exporters. That becomes political rhetoric. Generations later people actually believe it.

    Countries with high exports don’t have a great quality of life. Exports don’t improve the quality of life people living there. It increases work and lowers real wages as often as not. It just makes exporter’s rich. Did British people actually benefit from the opium wars? Do Chinese workers have physical prosperity matching their level of productivity?

    Exporters have convinced countries that money is more valuable than goods. Countries print money.

    This is why the tariffs don’t actually hurt Canada but are just a self-own for the US. It hurts Canadian exporters. But who cares. Now Canadians get to enjoy those products. If a few jobs are lost momentarily, they are replaced by jobs serving the domestic market.

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  • UnequalExchange@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    both settler colonial states at the end of the day…

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  • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why trade with Canada when we can just start a war?

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