“Gender affirming care” means gender affirming for everyone. The same people who hate on trans people getting it are the ones who constantly get breast enlargments, fat reductions, plastic surgery, etc. When they call gender affirming care unnatural and ban it, that magically always only applies to trans and poor people
Not Enough Hate
Submitted 1 month ago by OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
imadethis@fedinsfw.app 1 month ago
Never forget to point out the most common* form of gender affirming care is chest/breast reduction for men/young boys.
*maybe a factoid, but I’ve seen it in several places I wouldn’t expect a falsehood to hold up
BellyPurpledGerbil@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I’m tired of seeing people talk about the worst people all day long. I see people I really don’t give a fuck about all damn day long, and upon learning even a little bit about them, wonder why the fuck anybody even cares to keep bringing them up. Even the jokes are a hate ritual.
He doesn’t matter. He never mattered. Whatever he does with his life is none of my business and I really don’t give a fuck what happens to him. So why do I have to see him against my will on a regular basis?
mirshafie@europe.pub 1 month ago
Thank you. I don’t give a shit about this weirdo and nobody I know even knows who he is. I’m here because I’m trying to get away from tabloids and TV and media that talk about irrelevant nonsense.
Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 1 month ago
In a society where everyday, people are trampled on by a corporate first policy… they feel a need to try and strike back. So they do. Sadly it actually gives many of these horrible people joy to be mentioned at all. And it actually enables them.
Shayeta@feddit.org 1 month ago
JaN0h4ck@feddit.org 1 month ago
It wasn’t “someone” but they very great video essayist Alexander Avila, who himself is ftm. He made an excellent case and it’s quite the fun watch: youtu.be/uox4OMC50-4
JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 month ago
Don’t you know? Click bait headlines have to say “someone”
Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Doesn’t matter who said it. Black people say shit about other black people all the time that would be taken down in an instant, because it’s not alright.
SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
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Clavicular isn’t actually trans. He’s a mentally ill conservative grifter, and calling him a “Male to Male Transsexual” is a philosophical point more than anything.
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I have you tagged as “JK Rowling Bootlicker” so I have a feeling you’re not exactly acting in the best faith here.
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JaN0h4ck@feddit.org 1 month ago
He asks the question whether or not looksmaxing is gender affirming care and compares the two in a scientific and well-researched manner. Is research and philosophy “not alright”?
spacegoat@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Actually I have a magic pass to insult whoever the hell I want
ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 1 month ago
In my experience strong allyship comes from people who do not speak loudly on other people’s behalf, but mostly listen
popekingjoe@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Y’know I see it. All love to my trans homies, but fuck man, I see it.
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Yup. Definitely looks trans in the second one
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I believe he’s actually pro trans, or peoples’ right to transition, but it comes from his negative views on beauty and body image. He’s like a “everyone unattractive should get surgery and if you’re really unattractive get sex surgery.” I think that’s harmful, and just dumb.
iamthetot@piefed.ca 1 month ago
Saying that someone “looks trans” is big oof.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 month ago
thiel does have a type, young hot male models that he can suck the youth(blood) out of .
Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 month ago
This seems a bit backwards. The minute we decide we don’t like someone we feel justified in using gendered or racial slurs against them. Malania Trump, KLAN, any woman who’s actions seem against what we deem to be acceptable, even if we know they’re very likely sex trafficking victims, doesn’t just get called a bad person, they get called bitches and whores and. Clarence Thomas gets called the house negro.
Now we’re going to start in on making fun of the looks of trans people because of this asshole?
Why do so many people seem so eager to use terms and make fun of things we don’t find socially acceptable to make fun of the minute a person crosses the line? Not liking a person doesn’t make insulting them for those specific things any better.
Djehngo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The “no bad tactics, only bad targets” mentality on display is always gross to see.
There are many reasons to dislike clavicular, but focus on the harms he causes rather than taking lazy shots about his looks, especially if there are trans people down range.
lordziv@lemmy.nz 1 month ago
I think you are getting the wrong picture by people calling him mtm. It’s not because he’s a shitty person, it’s more about the fact he will stop at nothing to achieve “maximum masculinity” by getting jaw and face surgery to get a stronger jawline, to take testosterone from the age of 14 and to be an absolute misogynist to any woman he interacts with.
Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The post is literally saying he looks trans. It’s a person most people can’t stand, so somehow people think it’s ok to use looking trans as an insult to mock him.
Malyca@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
We need to call things out more
andxz@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Are you trying to argue Clarence Thomas isn’t a House Nigga? Good look with that shit my man, good luck. Call me and tell me how it went.
Actually don’t call me ever again.
Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Using the actual shit people say when they feel it would be socially justified to attack black folk in general would get me banned. That’s part of the point. It’s shit everyone agrees is awful and racist to use as insults and then turns around and uses on anyone they disagree with anyway.
CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It’s just a different focal length
Gumus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
ICastFist@programming.dev 1 month ago
Gonna try that as a pickup line
“Yo gurl, wanna see my 200mm?”
chunes@lemmy.world 1 month ago
This. Aside from the lips and eyebrows, it’s the only real difference.
iuseasahibtw@ani.social 1 month ago
It’s okay to have fun on Lemmy, Christ, this legit funny.
RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I have no clue about the looksmaxxing scene, so forgive me for asking: Which one is supposed to be before and which one is after?
Squirrelsdrivemenuts@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The left is before
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Left is before.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Left 4 Dead 2
SourDrink@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Leif is B4
Chick0nPlayz@lemmy.world 1 month ago
58008@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Transphobic ass meme. The guy’s a cunt, don’t need to denigrate trans people to point that out.
CalypsoGirl@lemmy.today 1 month ago
But just look at those side-by-side photos. LOOK at em. The title is simply an objective observation. Nothing phobic about it. Especially since the quote was literally from a ftm trans person!
Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You’re saying that it’s a simple objective observation that he looks transexual. Because he looks goofy. That is insulting to actual transexuals.
It does not matter who made the quote. Trans folk are just as capable of making ignorant discriminatory statements as anyone else.
hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
He’s taking testosterone just like trans men. He’s been on it so long that his body no longer produces its own testosterone, just like trans men.
I think the term male to male transsexual was coined by Alexander Aveela, a trans man. His excellent youtube video goes into detail about the many similarities in both of their transitions. No, not transphobic. Accurate.
Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 month ago
No, transphobic. This image is mocking his looks by saying he “looks trans.” That is a direct insult to trans people. It doesn’t matter who came up with the idea. Trans people aren’t magic unicorns who can do no wrong. They’re just people, every bit as capable of saying stupid intolerant shit as anyone else.
Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 month ago
539 up votes, 38 down votes for the post, 11 and 9 for your comment. This is how tolerant Lemmy actually is. It’s tribalism, not actual tolerance. The minute most people feel it’s socially acceptable to spew hate on something, they’re happy to do it.
andxz@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’m happy to spew some on you, all right. All night long.
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
With him it is actually a weird situation, because unlike other assholes, besides hurting others he is also hurting himself too.
Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Not sure why this guy in the photos being a dick makes it a weird situation you seem to see as making it alright to insult trans folks.
Delphia@lemmy.world 1 month ago
See, I dont think so. (Ok I agree on the cunt part, also add insufferable)
Because I know a lot of bodybuilders, guys who are on the gear and they are almost all SUPER accepting of the trans community (or at least peoples rights to do what they want with their bodies) because they get it. You look in the mirror and it isnt right so they take the chemicals to make the outside look like the inside.
To point out that this guy is probably going through a very similar mental process (with added cuntery) is probably more accurate than the trans community and the male looksmaxxing community would like. The part that I’d disagree with is that he is “the first”. Not even fucking close.
Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It’s flat out saying someone “looks trans”, which in and of itself is inaccurate and insulting, but it does it because he looks goofy now, which is doubly insulting.
The post has nothing to do with him having or not having dysphoria.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 1 month ago
🤣 😭
darkearth@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
yeah it seems more like body dysmorphia than gender dysphoria.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Bugger, I got my terms confused
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Yup, the algorithms are promoting body dysmorphia to men as well as women now. I guess that’s equality?
BeerStainedBunny@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Maybe he wants to look more nonbinary as in gender ambiguous?
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 month ago
There should be a male movie version of “The Substance”, specifically targetting the toxic idea of looksmaxxing.
Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
How long until I don’t have to hear about or see them again? We’ve already gotten rid of (mostly) other toxic influencers.
tourist@lemmy.world 1 month ago
They are sticking experimental grey market peptides into their veins, eating Adderall like tic tacs and are prone to take part in a whole list of other dangerous activities.
So, probably not too long.
rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Who?
PattyMcB@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Some hateful idiot who’s addicted to cosmetic surgery and says men should want to look as manly as possible
Snapz@lemmy.world 1 month ago
“IT PUTS THE FUCKING LOTION IN THE BASKET!!!”
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 1 month ago
IT PUTS THE LOTION ON IT’S SKIN BECAUSE HOLY FUCK IT NEEDS IT!
RBWells@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Which is the after?
BeerStainedBunny@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
WaterSword@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
Jreg talks about this
HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
He saw Tony from Skins and went “Yes.”
RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 1 month ago
He doesn’t get enough hate because the majority of people who aren’t terminally online have no idea who he is. People like him feed on hate so it’s best to just bury him.
AmyAye@nord.pub 1 month ago
I am.pretty terminally onlime but I have no idea who this is.
M137@lemmy.world 1 month ago
you being terminally “onlime” doesn’t make you part of the terminally online group. You just sit on limes.
bandanawearingbanana@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Good, he is but one of 100.000 grifters anyway.
andxz@lemmy.world 1 month ago
6 feet under, just to make sure, right?
jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
why hate on someone when they mostly aren’t hurting anyone but themselves?
RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 1 month ago
This guy encourages impressionable young men to smash their faces with hammers to sculpt their bones.
bluefootedbooby@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
Spewing misogyny online hurts all women
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 month ago
They are hurting other people by teaching young boys that they can treat women like objects.
FrowingFostek@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Isn’t this the guy saying something like “we’re trying to make Israel look good”.
I’d argue trying to rehabilitate the image of a genocidal state harms many people.
QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
off topic, but why don’t you upvote your own comments? For me it automatically does it when I comment