You’re looking for amphetamines, I think
I want it to slap me across the face
Submitted 4 weeks ago by ickplant@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 4 weeks ago
Angryhumanoid@fedinsfw.app 3 weeks ago
Yeah but ain’t none of my usual contacts holdin’, ya know?
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Coffee should taste good. Why hate on coffee that tastes good? It’s not even hard to find.
bort@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
this. it’s not that hard to make a coffee that is both strong and tastes good.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Right! And fairly cheaply (less so than a couple years ago, but still)
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
In my opinion, the best coffee isn’t some hipster “cherry” tasting coffee, but made by a skillful barista in Italy, using classic coffee.
If you like this “third wave” coffee, good for you! But the pure velvet enveloped sledgehammer that pure coffee might be has no equivalent for me.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
In my opinion, the best coffee isn’t some hipster “cherry” tasting coffee, but made by a skillful barista in Italy, using classic coffee.
The “cherry” tasting coffee is also just “classic coffee”. It’s just different beans that have a different flavor profile. It’s not like actual cherry flavoring.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Usually the “notes of” doesn’t mean added flavorings, it’s just a taste profile similar to describing wines or perfumes.
Apparently a trained palette can distinguish different notes, but that requires trying each one in isolation which is difficult for the average person to do.
For me I can only really identify bitterness, acidity, body, and strength. That’s all a casual drinker really needs in order to describe what they like.
- The bitterness is self-explanatory, and depends on the beans, how they’re roasted, how they’re brewed, etc.
- The acidity is the brightness that you can taste in something like a light roast. Try it side-by-side with a dark roast to taste the difference.
- Body is the thickness of the mouthfeel. The best way to describe it is like drinking whole milk vs. skim milk. Light roasts usually have a lighter body, like water. Dark roasts have a heavier body, not quite like whole milk but maybe skim.
- And strength is self-explanatory. Light roasts are technically stronger because some of the caffeine breaks down when heated (green coffee, sometimes called golden coffee, is the strongest because it isn’t roasted), but I find the difference is negligible. The main factors for determining strength seems to be how it’s ground and how it’s brewed.
- The finer it’s ground, the more surface area so the stronger the infusion, that’s why espressos and turkish coffee are so strong (also because they might blend some robustica in with their arabica, which makes it more bitter but also has more caffeine)
- Also higher grounds::water ratios means there’s more caffeine, but too high and it gets undrinkably bitter with an extremely thick body (sometimes called “motor oil” for this reason)
That all being said, some roasters do add artificial flavor directly to their beans, but usually those are called “flavored,” not “notes of”/“hints of”.
And yeah, skip me with those flavored syrups. If I want something fancy I’ll add real cocoa or some herbs or something, but that’s a rare inkling for me and those syrups are just kinda gross.
nyctre@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Have you ever had espresso in a third wave café ? because most of them have the same “feel”. The only difference is in the smell and the taste. The taste and the strength of the coffee are related but not mutually exclusive. You can make a coffee with 5g of coffee and you can make a coffee with 30g of coffee. Obviously the latter will hit like a sledgehammer no matter what kind of coffee you use. But both will taste more like coffee when there’s good beans with a proper roast instead of the “classic” burnt, bitter roast.
Also, 99% of italian baristas just push a button to get coffee from a grinder then they slot it into the espresso machine and press another button to make the machine push water through the puck. There’s no skill involved. There’s a guy that works for the espresso machine maker that comes and calibrates the machine and the grinder and that’s the only guy with any skill in the process. And even that job isn’t that hard. Only third wave coffee shops still bother to calibrate their own machines(and even then, many don’t, from what I’ve seen) or use any other process that actually requires skill or a recipe.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Some coffee beans with no additives whatsoever can be described like this post did. I don’t like additives or other weird coffee things. Beans, and grinder, and a french press is all you need
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They are discussing the flavors of the beans.
jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’ll take that cocoa and cherry one then, if you’re not having it.
Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Caffeine content probably the same. I’ll take the one that doesn’t taste like chalky dirt.
cosmos8188@leminal.space 3 weeks ago
Exactly, if op ain’t having it, we’ll kindly take it 😄
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
DmMacniel@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Excuse me. This is a damn good coffee.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I saw a giant three times.
Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
People who drink mud for tough guy points are cringe.
hansolo@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
What about the people that make it for themselves because they just like it that way?
Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I would argue you only like it that way due to exposure to other mis guided coffee drinkers and if you had a chance to reset your tastes you’d come to love a nice light to medium roast with hints of cherry and caramel.
Chiarottide@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Hard disagree. I am a weak eepy little boy and I need a strong, girthy kick in the ass to start my day. Anything less won’t do
Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
ITT: Folks who don’t know a light roast has more caffeine than dark, and muddier coffee does not equate to more caffeine.
bstix@feddit.dk 3 weeks ago
That’s how tough guy points work, yes.
Do stupid shit, get tough guy points.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
I don’t understand… can it not do that while also tasting good? Is that not exactly what good coffee is supposed to be?
ickplant@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Of course it can, but then we wouldn’t have a shitpost.
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Caffeine is very slightly negatively correlated with darkness of the roast. Dark roasts tend to have less caffeine than light roasts.
Also, drip/pourover/percolator/press coffee tends to have more caffeine per serving than espresso-based drinks. The longer steep time extracts more of the caffeine, and serving sizes tend to just be so much larger to overcome the higher caffeine per unit volume of espresso.
So in reality, the lighter pourover coffee where you have the roaster or barista talking about tasting notes tends to be higher caffeine than the dark, densely brewed bitter stuff.
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Basically this, although from what I remember the caffeine difference between light and dark roast is only about 2%.
It is also worth noting that for most people (due to the standard western diet), their daily coffee is one of the few appreciable sources of polyphenols they’re likely to get, and lighter roasts are a better source of that as well.
Aaaand if that weren’t enough, dairy cancels out the health benefits of coffee by reducing bioavailability.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
My understanding is that dark roast is just as strong or even stronger by weight, but the longer roast makes it lighter for the same volume. Since people tend to use scoops to measure out their coffee the lighter blends end up stronger.
But if you measure by weight instead, that’s no longer the case.
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
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Worthy of the shill
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
For context I’m the “at the fourth or fifth energy drink I can start to feel it” type, and their Trioxin coffee beans made me twitch after a pint
Hegar@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
The two are not mutually exclusive. Just drink stovetop espresso made from decent beans.
hansolo@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
I’m looking forward to one of those in a bit. Moka pot is love.
explodIng_lIme@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Both can be true
childOfMagenta@jlai.lu 3 weeks ago
Cold brew does both well, for example.
pech@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
Y'all need to sleep better.
Im_old@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
yeah try that with small kids and job insecurity
TrippyHippyDan@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
So you want it to be whiskey?
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Nah, coffe just needs to be Irish.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
you can buy 200mg caffeine caps for that
abc@suppo.fi 3 weeks ago
What you get: coffee that walks into your intestines, flips a table over, and says, “Get up. We have responsibilities.”
texture@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
thats called meth
Zacryon@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
AND has hints of cherry and cocoa. Why not both?
ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I need my coffee to bend me over the counter and ram it in dry.
ickplant@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Captain_Patchy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Is it so bad to have both?
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I like my coffee like I like my women. Cold and bitter.
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I like my coffee like I like my women: completely devoid of STDs.
Hypocrite9554@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Necrophilia moment
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I meant emotionally cold, but your line is funnier.
butwhyishischinabook@anarchist.nexus 3 weeks ago
Okay boomer….
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Gin, it’s not just for breakfast anymore.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 weeks ago
Try NOS. That’s one reason I like it (the other is it tastes good).
snoons@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Banned in Canada! So it MUST be good!
[i don actually know if it’s banned just that I haven’t seen it in decades]
Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
It’s getting hard to find here, too. Lotta places just stipped carrying it and I do not know why because the business itself is still around and going strong, and they are constantly selling out more than Monster or Redbull which everyone carries an excessive amount of.
Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
You can get cans at Dollaramas in ON for sure, but you’re right, I haven’t seen the canister-style bottles for a looong time.
Used to drink unhealthy amounts of that shit.
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Brian O’Conner, is that you?
Angryhumanoid@fedinsfw.app 4 weeks ago
Yeah I felt that way when I was younger, now I want caffeine AND flavor.
chaogomu@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I used to deal that way when I was younger, now I want caffeine, flavor, AND an extra kick from my little flask.
Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Sure, I felt that way when I was younger. Now I want caffeine, flavor, an extra kick from my little flask, AND a bump of cocaine.
_lilith@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Just take caffeine pills jfc
Gregers@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Or adderall, sounds like they have a medical condition
hansolo@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
I once worked with a Brazilian woman that complained about all the weak office coffee, and said, “I want my coffee so dark and rich I can chew on it.”
100% agreed with her on that.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 3 weeks ago
Then dry an energy drink or caffeine pills.
Yeah, I drink coffee in part for the caffeine, but what’s the point of brewing fresh coffee if not to enjoy a tastier way to ingest caffeine?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Coffee? I requested a car battery clipped to my nipples
gigastasio@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
I want a coffee with a short skirt and a loooooooooooooooong jacket.
WagnasT@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
Whoa…imma go listen to some Cake
Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I got to see them at Austin City Limits one year. It turned me into a lifelong Cake fan.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Imma go eat sum
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I do actually want a coffee that uses a machete to cut through red tape.