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Submitted ⁨⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Godric@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • jobbies@lemmy.zip ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I dont think its a good idea for Christians to be picking at that thread

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    • stickyprimer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      They’re SO deep down the hole with their big lie that they think everyone ELSE is lying to himself. Truly amazing.

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    • Rothe@piefed.social ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The bible even has something to say about it:

      And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

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      • grrgyle@slrpnk.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Always loved that one.

        The Parable of the Mote and the Beam by Domenico Fetti c. 1619

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The best parts of theology are the parts that engage in introspection.

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    • Typotyper@sh.itjust.works ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think they’re safe, its too deep a thought to catch on

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  • felixwhynot@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m just posting because I noticed that the W in “your whole life” is an upside down M. Goddamn typomania got me again!

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    • myster0n@feddit.nl ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Did you notice the S is upside-down?

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      • lovely_reader@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Is it? It looks the same to me when I flip my phone. Perhaps it looks off because it’s in a bolder or newer set, like the B and some other letters. Or maybe it’s AI and every detail is random.

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    • RustyShackleford@piefed.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Did you notice that two of the four-letter “I”s are upside down as well?

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      • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        How do you spell “I” with four letters?

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      • idiomaddict@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I can’t tell if you’re joking, but the one in “believed” now seems off and the one in “life” definitely seems right. I can’t quite tell about the other two, especially with how weird the I in “if” is generally.

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    • TheRealKuni@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’ve had to put letters on signs like this before. You don’t get equal numbers of every letter, less-frequent letters have fewer. And if they get broken or stolen or blow away or something, that can seriously limit you. So you figure out ways to make up for it, like flipping M upside-down for W.

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      • felixwhynot@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Unfortunately, while I feel some compassion for the sign setter, this doesn’t help me. What I have seen cannot be unseen.

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    • errer@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I believed that W was a W my whole life

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      • backalleycoyote@lemmy.today ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Image

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    • jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      YOUR MOLE LIFE

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      • felixwhynot@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        M’hole

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    • kibblebits@quokk.au ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      ɯhole

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  • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    youtube.com/watch?v=tDtnVLP3Dgw

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  • BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What if the lie is something totally not related to religion, like you aren’t a total loser and your friends really do love you and you are smart and capable?".

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    • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Nah.

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    • Godric@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If your friends are wonderful people and they love you, you have to trust their judgement!

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    • cenariodantesco@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      🥹

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  • brezel@piefed.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    oh, religion. nothing embodies hypocrisy like you.

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  • HeHoXa@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What, like believing in truth?

    Gorgias, on negation

    Sextus Empiricus, outlines of Pyrrhonism

    Kant, critique of reason

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  • Shadow@lemmy.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Do you rrally think that’s air your breathing?

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    • slaacaa@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Image

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  • hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Heyyyy now, y’all be careful with that. The knife cuts both ways.

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    • megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I mean. I’d argue that the group that more frequently questions its positions and beliefs based on new evidence is a more reliable source for interpreting the world than the group that killed 40% of Germany when one assumption, regarding the authority of the bishop of Rome, was in dispute.

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      • hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Of course. The ironic point is that plenty of people believed the old versions of what research showed dinosaurs were until they died. Some in denial of new research, like the presence of feathers.

        Humans are dogmatic about more than just religion.

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    • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Imagine believing in creationism and using dinosaurs, 35 of which are wandering around my farm right now, as the metric of God’s will.

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  • imperious_melange@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Decrease needless and avoidable suffering for all minds whenever and wherever possible.

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  • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    My favourite lies:

    • There are only two genders
    • Biological sex exists
    • Species has a scientific basis
    • 99.9% of your body isn’t empty space
    • Objects exist
    • We evolved to perceive the world around us accurately
    • Believing in objective truth is good for society
    • The USSR practiced communism
    • The Beatles were any good
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    • Pat_Riot@lemmy.today ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hey now, the Beatles were very good. They had interesting chord structures, strong rhythms, and well written lyrics. They also put out a huge amount of highly varied music in a very short time. Their contribution to modern music is absolutely undeniable. You may not like them, but if you know anything at all about music you cannot say in good faith that they weren’t any good.

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      • Manticore@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Every wannabe edgelord loves to trot out their “Beatles suck” opinion to get people riled up. Really, it just fits the “Hamlet sucks” trope of people who are unaware of historical context. “What’s so great about Hamlet? It’s just a predictable plot tied together with cliches.” In reality, the plot is predictable and the writing cliched because it was so revolutionary for its time everything that has come since has been imitating it.

        Same with “Citizen Kane is boring” and “Seinfeld isn’t funny.” There is so much of modern filmmaking that originated from Citizen Kane, and Seinfeld set the bar for every sitcom that came after.

        Likewise, the Beatles completely revolutionized pop music. You don’t have to enjoy their music personally, but it’s beyond ignorant to say they sucked.

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      • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Nah. Queen is ten times better.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The Beatles were any good

      How dare you, sir/madam

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      • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        My terms of address are “goddess” and “comrade”, thanks for understanding

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    • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Biological sex exists

      Do you mean gender? I’m confused because of the chromosomes and the gametes and stuffs.

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      • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Sure, the chromosomes and gametes exist, and are supported by biology… but how and why are we using those to define sex? Pinning down a precise definition of sex is incredibly difficult for biologists, the best definitions we have are a vague cloud of all of these vaguely related things. The only common thread is that all of these things differ between different humans, and have some (often tangiential) relation to fucking.

        For any rigorous definition we come up with, that actually produces a distinct number of sexes, we can throw some curveballs at it that require the writing of exceptions and special clauses and caveats. We end up oversimplifying dozens of different variables into these broad categories that then lead to worse outcomes for the people who deviate from the dogmatic oversimplifications. And if we actually count each intersex condition and permutation and stage of transsexual transition as its own sex, then we end up with thousands of different sexes, and next to no predictive utility! It’s a nightmare!

        My philosophy is: If you can’t create a model that is accurate, fair, and useful… maybe you’re trying to create the wrong kind of model. Go back to the drawing board and reevaluate your foundational assumptions. Come back with a different core idea.

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      • Nalivai@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Significant proportion of people don’t fit into binary sex definition, however much you cut and define it, people have all sorts of crazy combinations. And if your strict binary definition doesn’t include all the subjects, it’s not strict, not binary, and signifies not a lot.
        “The observable universe is either Hydrogen or Helium, we don’t let small percent of exceptions destroy this nice model we have”

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    • idiomaddict@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The Beatles were any good

      George Harrison was a Beatle, and he was objectively a great musician.

      I’m also personally obligated (happily so) to like Paul McCartney, because he befriended my cousin while he stayed at Sloan Kettering and taught him to play the guitar (my cousin was already skilled with string instruments, so he picked it up pretty well) over a period of months before he died. I’m not aware of him publicizing that (and my cousin was a rando in his late twenties- definitely too young to die, but not young enough to make a great news story, given that he was unmarried and had no kids) or getting any personal benefit from it other than being able to increase joy in a horrible situation.

      So at least 2/4 (or 2/5, if you’re a Pete Best fan, I guess) are/were good in some way.

      Plus, at least Blackbird and Eleanor Rigby are great songs IMO, but that’s less objective.

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      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        All four of them were/are quite good musicians. Yes, even Ringo

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      • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Hmmm… Blackbird is better than their average, but it’s not quite good.

        The problem with the Beatles is that their beats suck ass. Their songs feel lethargic, meandering, aimless, and depressing because they have terrible beats. Blackbird actually has a beat, which is more than I can say for most of their music. But it doesn’t have a good beat.

        UNBELIEVABLE! YOU GUYS FORGOT THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF WRITING A CATCHY SONG! It’s gotta have a beat.

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    • Th4tGuyII@fedia.io ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I'm sorry you're gonna need to provide a bit more citation on these.

      • Biological sex exists

      What do you mean by this?

      Biological sex - as in physiological characteristics borne of sex chromosome differentiation - is absolutely real, and playing about with that could quite literally get you killed from a medical care perspective (as in wrong dose of drugs, etc.).

      Now if you want to discuss whether sex is truly binary, that's much more debatable - especially due to the existence of intersex people, and those with sex-related chrosomal disorders.

      • 99.99% of your body isn't empty space

      If you're talking about atoms in the body being 99.99% empty space, then by that technicality everything that exists is 99.99% empty space... Which isn't so much an interesting lie, as it is just an interesting physics fact.

      • Objects exist

      I'm not calling this one out, I just want to know what technicality this is borne out of.

      • The Beatles were any good

      This one's just offensive. Or that is what I would say if I didn't also think they're a bit overrated.

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      • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Objects exist

        I just think the entire idea of distinct supermolecular objects is an arbitrary human convenience, rather than a scientific construct. Science doesn’t have an answer to philosophical problems like the Ship of Theseus problem. I think that’s because objects are not a scientific concept. Objects are a vibe.

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    • vithigar@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Objects clearly exist. My code loves to complain when they don’t.

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      • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Your fault for using object-oriented programming, also known as OOP.

        You should try God-oriented Programming, or GOP for short.

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    • Phantaloons@piefed.zip ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
      • all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration

      • we are merely the universe experiencing itself

      toke

      • we…
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    • Zwrt@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I can understand the idea behind 8 of these?

      But “biological sex exists”… how? Unless its a variant on “objects exist” as a lie to refer to the rejection of material reality but its weird to list it twice.

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      • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It exists, but like, in the same way species exists. The variety and frequency of intersex conditions indicates that it’s two clusters of traits that most species that show this characteristic fall into one or the other of and certain components are remarkably mutable.

        That understanding is just fundamentally different from the traditional understanding of two entirely distinct bins that anyone who doesn’t fall into one or the other is a strong outlier and the only alterations are castration or divine intervention (at least in euro-christian tradition).

        The two bin model is going to work ok on most humans, it’s not like it’s an obviously wrong one. But as society and science have advanced we’ve found more intersex people that either didn’t know (my cousin would have just been understood as barren, and nobody would’ve noticed my ex’s mom having XY sex chromosomes) or didn’t understand that it wasn’t just some weird quirk that you either hide in shame or just don’t feel is worth mentioning. And anywhere you try to draw a firm line or any trait you try to point to try to ignore the gray is going to leave you with an awkward grouping in some way

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    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
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      • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        But the things we do perceive are mostly accurate, with individual differences, and a hint of specializing bias (fruit colors). What, you think halucinating things that don’t exist isn’t detrimental to your survival (and mating chances)?

        Yeah, Donald Hoffman ran thousands of evolutionary simulations in his cognitive lab. He created a bunch of creatures that perceived the simulated world accurately, and a bunch that just perceived fitness payoffs and used cognitive shortcuts to oversimplify their perceptions. Fitness always beats truth. Truth-perceiving organisms go extinct. Your ancestors were the early animals who perceived the world in fitness payoffs, not truth.

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      • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        But there’s also the psychological part. And in some cases neurological, like born in the wrong body and such.

        That’s not biology, it’s psychology. And it’s not sex, it’s gender. The sex-gender distinction is really important to trans people’s wellbeing.

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  • berndXD@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    We constantly change. There are no fixated lies or truths about us or the world. We just need to accept it and live in a process, not in a fixated system

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  • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    then you would get what we got in the whitehouse

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  • Psionicsickness@reddthat.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Preach just listened to “With Teeth.” Good for him!

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  • jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I think I need to move to the Midwest and become a preacher. You work for like one hour a week on Sunday morning, and take everyone’s money, which you then live off of, tax free.

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