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That never happened
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There’s no proof that happened
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It’s more complicated than your describing
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Those were just some bad actors
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Okay, but that was under the Other Party. My Party would never do that
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(Repeat 1. Thru 4.)
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Okay but we’re reforming now
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It’s in the past! Why do you keep bringing up Old Shit?!
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Whataboutism
Remember, they are the good guys. These are just the US ones.
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UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 7 hours ago
This sounds like a modified Narcissist prayer.
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 11 hours ago
Just outside of view:
Human Radiation Experiments, Holmesburg Prison experiments, San Quentin Prison experiments, Stateville Penitentiary Malaria Studies, Guatemala Syphilis Experiment, Operation Sea-Spray, Ohio State Penitentiary Cancer Study, Belmont Report
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Ludlow Massacre, Battle of Blair Mountain, Coal Wars
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Kent State Massacre, Jackson State Killings, Orangeburg Massacre
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
A couple of those were directly profit motivated vs the government choosing to do some f’d up stuff on their own. Yeah, government stepped in, but who started the problem isn’t the same. Either way, wealthy people pushing the government to crush the peasantry for them isn’t much difference.
youcantreadthis@quokk.au 9 hours ago
Damn that’s crazy and I’m just here snacking on artichokes
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ivanafterall@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
- Boarding Schools.
- Eugenics, including forced sterilization.
- Nuclear weapons.
- Internment of Japanese.
- Hiring of Nazis after WWII, after inspiring them before WWII.
minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Reconstruction failure, Jim Crow institutionalized which was the ultimate inspiration for the Nazis to model their claimed superior race society after.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
I’ve never heard about the St.Louis Poisoning before… Surely it cant be yet another immoral, insane, evil program targeting black americans, right?
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Fuck
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 7 hours ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_LAC
sounds more like they released a lot of dust to check how far the wind carries it
what i don’t get is why didn’t they just use some non-toxic substance
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
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because they werent testing on white people
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cause St.Louis specifically was a weapons test for the viability of using Zinc cadmium sulfide as a weapon against moscow
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BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 hours ago
Because those fucks were nuts to begin with.
Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
As bad as people hate to admit it, this is pretty much the direct cause of anti vax people and shit like it.
The government pretty much created the problem itself by doing this stuff.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
This is why black people don’t trust doctors.
antivax didnt come around until an asshole doctor lied about the safety of vaccines, to sell his own vaccine… and took off like a rocket when that miserable Jenny McCunthy decided it had to be vaccines, and not genetics, that caused her not to give birth to the perfect blond haired blue eyed child she deserved.
Virtvirt588@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Narcissism and failed education leads to fascism. Who would of thought. The system we have congratulates assholery and abuse of power, so I’d say trust issues are expected.
MML@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
The character actress?
DokPsy@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Wait until you hear about al Qaeda … And depending on how far back you want to go… 1980?
Agent641@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Don’t forget the Phoenix project. 85k Vietnamese civilians assassinated or tortured to death by the CIA.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I read about MK Ultra, and that is some weird, fucked up shit. Also, most of the records were destroyed, so who knows what else they got up to? Fucking monsters.
WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I didn’t remember exactly but also Japan has that unit 731 or whatever? That was insane as well.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Nearly every country with a government has had or currently has some wildly shady shit going on.
Objection@lemmy.ml 10 hours ago
Funny you say that, guess what happened after the war, when they were captured by the Americans?
Total immunity for all their war crimes, in exchange for their research. Apart from a handful who had vivisected American pilots, anyway, but the ones who experimented on Chinese victims got off scot free.
The US would go on to employ chemical and biological warfare extensively in Korea shortly after, as well as in Vietnam.
youcantreadthis@quokk.au 9 hours ago
Whatever happened to the guy in charge of that?
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Ron Funches’ routine was great. “You don’t believe any conspiracy theories? Like, you just believe the government is batting 1.000 in terms of telling the truth?”
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
MOVE must be in another room.
TheMinister@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
Came to say the same
youcantreadthis@quokk.au 9 hours ago
That was just a city not a federal thing counts separate like Gary webb
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
The FBI provided the Philadelphia Police the materials needed to make the bomb.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 hours ago
So… a funny thing just happened…
fox5dc.com/…/tulsi-gabbards-office-denies-florida…
CIA whistleblower testifies in Congress that the CIA basically raided the DNI (Tulsi Gabbard)'s office, to retrieve various files relating to JFK and MKUltra, that Trump had actually ordered be unsealed.
Anna Paulina Luna corroborates this.
Fox News (nation wide) runs a segment on this with Jesse Waters.
Then, a bunch of people change their tune.
Paulina Luna claims her comments were misconstrued.
Gabbard denies that this happened.
Jesse Waters removes this, his own segment, from his own social media.
Gabbard’s PR person says basically ‘no, a raid did not happen on that day, but about a year earlier, the CIA did confiscate some documents from the DNI, and they still have them.’
… at least that is my current attempt to comprehend this.
So uh… the DNI is supposed to be in charge of the CIA.
But, if you know anything about the CIA… they do whatever the fuck they want, to whoever they want.
There is only a single example of someone ostensibly in charge of the CIA that actually attempted to reign in the CIA and hold it accountable, make it stop doing things it wanted to do.
His brain got painted all over Dealey Plaza, in 1963.
redsand@infosec.pub 9 hours ago
Turner lied and parts of the program kept going. I’m wonder what’s going on with that one UFO guy who was trying to get a SCIF to talk to lawmakers. Subject gets dropped like a rock any time someone picks it up.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 8 hours ago
USdefaultism!
literally USdefaultism
YOUR* goverment
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Ah yes the US is the only country that has a current or past track record with shady shit.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 6 hours ago
sure not the only one, but like, goverments usually try to have kids not die of malnutrition or whatever.
Lupus108@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
Well at least Operation Northwoods never happened. It was just a draft and Kennedy refused to sign it into action. Don’t get me wrong, it is pretty fucked up that it came that far, but at least it never went into action.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
IT just means they learned how to sidestep that particular bureaucratic hurdle when the idea was repeated in 2001.
Gates9@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
I’m actually quite curious how the next false flag will be received
Objection@lemmy.ml 9 hours ago
Don’t get it right too soon or people will call you a conspiracy theorist.
Remember, we don’t do that stuff anymore, it’s totally crazy to suggest that’s even a possibility. Wait 20 years, it’ll come out that we did, in fact, still do that stuff - but only back then. But by then we’ll have stopped and it’ll be totally crazy to suggest that’s even a possibility. Until you wait another 20 years.
Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
Yeah that line on the CIAs website about how “this is no longer the views of the agency” or however they word it exactly cracks me up every time.
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
If it’s anything like the latest assassination “attempt” at Trump, with great skepticism.
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 hours ago
Operation Windfall & Operation Pantomime
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
Needs more Paperclips in their Operations…
youcantreadthis@quokk.au 9 hours ago
We have paperclip machines now
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
government bad. corporations good?
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Both bad, humanity trashy species
mlc894@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
“Governments do bad things sometimes” “Oh you would rather be subjugated by a megacorp?”
Troll detected. Low quality bait.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
who’s going to stand up against megacorps and win?
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Why
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
because you are complaining a lot about the elected governments instead of “I got money, imma do whatever lolz” corporations, which are the ones that are explicitly made to actually fuck you over every step of the way.
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 7 hours ago
I prefer corporations rat fucking my health and life cause I know I am just being sacrificed the Line That Always Go Up.
Zwiebel@feddit.org 11 hours ago
Huh? What does foreign countries’ fucked up shit have to do with the government?
Objection@lemmy.ml 10 hours ago
Saying this from a German instance is certainly a choice.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
I don’t understand the question
Zwiebel@feddit.org 11 hours ago
The meme doesnt specify a country, just says “the government”. So, to mock the US defaultism, I acted like it is obviously talking about my government, as Americans tend to do
Gladaed@feddit.org 12 hours ago
Just because absurd but promising ideas were tried when they maybe shouldn’t have does not mean the government is stalkingyou.
Objection@lemmy.ml 11 hours ago
No, we know the US government is stalking us more from the Snowden leaks than what’s listed here.
But also, “absurd but promising ideas” is whitewashing this stuff to a truly ridiculous degree. This stuff wasn’t like, “We think psychic powers might exist so we’ll test if people can tell what card I’m holding.” We’re talking about intentionally infecting black men with syphilis to use as guinea pigs. Was that “an absurd but promising idea?”
How Donald Ewen Cameron, who was paid by the CIA to pose as a legitimate doctor and abduct Canadian citizens who came in with everyday symptoms like headaches, and he’d put them in months-long comas and electrocute them and inject LSD and do God knows what else to them because he burned his research notes?
That’s only the tip of the iceberg. You might as well say that Josef Mengele just let his curiosity get a little bit out of hand.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Who said that?
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Oh man, this brings back so many memories. Some of those aren’t even mine!
too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
You’re my favorite person on here.
Wanna know some state secrets?
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
I dunno, how much you asking? And will it give me leverage over the leadership of a 3rd world country?
YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Username checks out.