"Not A Single Pixel" Of The New Ecco Game Will Be Generated By AI, Insists Series Creator

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• Cocodapuf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Ok sure, but how much of the game will actually be generated by dolphins?

  This will probably be just another example of HUMAN appropriation when plenty of dolphin developers are struggling to even find work in this industry. Maybe when dolphins are literally the subject matter of the game we could consider inclusivity in its development?

  #dolphin_life #PhinsInGaming #NotMyEcco

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  • ptu@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    In the original game I’m sure you had to be a dolphin to beat the first level

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• itkovian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I knew that “No AI used” is going to become a huge selling point for many products. And I think this is just the start.

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  • Blaiz0r@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The reality is software engineers will use AI or will find themselves out of work as they won’t have the skills to get hired.

    Customers may never know of AI is used as a tool in game creation but it will always be part of any software and development studio.

    Using AI for music or design assets is totally different from using it for the code base and blanket statements don’t improve the situation

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    • itkovian@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I disagree with your statement, unfortunately.

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  • LifeLikeLady@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That’s excellent. And as these mega corps watch consumers favor those products. Maybe, just maybe they’ll fucking implode. That’s just a fantasy I know.

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    • slimerancher@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Unfortunately they won’t. They are earning tons of money.

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  • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I made a post about thia exact thing a couple of weeks ago! I will give my money to people not using ai bullshit, and if theyre liars, they wont see a cent from me again. People need to stand up and have some damn principles about this.

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  • Cocodapuf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’m gonna have my kid add No AI used" to his lemonade stand sign. He’ll probably double his profits.

    (so probably like $4).

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  • whoisearth@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And what’s funny is we all know they’re going to use it somewhere.

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• AbsolutePain@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Ye i just saw a vid on ecco. Wishlisting fs

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• rafoix@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  What if I use DLSS to upscale and add frames?

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Image

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Maybe the new Ecco game will be optimized well enough to not need or include DLSS and framegeneration. 🤷‍♂️

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    • rafoix@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I need 800fps. One of my Steam games was 800+ fps on its HUD even though it was on a 60fps monitor. My GPU was going at 100%.

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    • ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      DLAA then

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  • Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Well it wouldn’t be a single pixel then, would it?

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• socsa@piefed.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Ok, that was always allowed!

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• bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  A new Ecco game?? Yess. Love the genesis versions

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• AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  OMG NEW ECCO GAME

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• Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  What about the code?

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  • CluckN@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Written by an actual dolphin

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• sirico@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Thank goodness I was worried the French fever dream of ECCO would be ruined

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• noxypaws@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I’m so fucking pumped for new Ecco games. I loved the original on Genesis and it’s about damn time we get some fresh stuff in the series.

  Even better with this statement

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  • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Genesis music is of its own genre. So good

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    • noxypaws@pawb.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It really, really does.

      This song (All Good Times, by MelonadeM) isn’t from a game, rather it’s one of the demo songs included with Furnace, a chiptune tracker. And it goes so fucking hard:

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQfSCvvqmXg

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  • massive_bereavement@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I hope they make an effort with the soundtrack. For me that was a big highlight on all games (specially Sega CD).

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    • solidsmoke@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Undercaves song goes so hard

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    • noxypaws@pawb.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      YESS. I’m super eager to hear the sounds they come up with here.

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• Grimy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I guess I’m an outlier, I judge games on if they are fun to play.

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    “We promise not to put turds in your punch bowl.”

    “Uh, actually, I prefer to make my own choices. Give me a cup of the Poo-Punch and then I’ll decide if its worth drinking.”

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    • AstralPath@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      This actually made me laugh out loud. 😆

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  • frongt@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Unfortunately you are not, that’s what most people do. We should all be including ethics in our purchases.

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    • Grimy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I do include ethics in my decisions. My ethics simply aren’t dictated by copyright juggernauts.

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  • 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    There’s no shortage of games that are fun to play, you can just select for studios that don’t rely on the Grand Plagiarism Tool to get you to give them money

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    • Chozo@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It's not all plagiarism, though. For instance, Embark Studios uses AI to create in-game voice lines for characters in their games. They made their own models with actors hired specifically to train them.

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  • Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I think this still matters in a long term.

    Good games tend to be made by big teams. That’s why when you hear about some auteur recruiting his own random team for a game, it ends up being a failed venture usually.

    AI is often an effort to replace large teams with small ones, churning someone’s half-baked thoughts into code and art. The result is rarely human and inventive; and in a lot of ways, it tends to show in the end product.

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    • Grimy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I’m mostly thinking of indie devs and how it can let small teams do more. I think some of these tools are a real boon to the industry, it’s quickly becoming trivial to included animated cut scenes for example. I think the human and inventive part can still shine with competent devs.

      I’m not advocating for shovelware here or games that are 90% AI, but a lot of teams that can’t afford certain dedicated positions would probably benefit from using it in some parts of their game.

      If it isn’t noticable and gives us a better game, I’m more than willing to ignore the copyright companies constant wailing.

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  • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    AI is fascist. anything that uses AI supports fascism.

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  • BlackLaZoR@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You aren't an outlier. People judge art in a complex way including final product uniqueness and complexity. AI is just one factor. Hardcore anti AI crowd lives mostly in their own echo chamber.

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  • Pika@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Same TBF, I don’t really care if AI was used as long as it is an enjoyable game and the usage of it doesn’t contrast from the game itself.

    Being said, most the time when generative AI is used, it comes out sloppy and unenjoyable so if there is the genAI flag on the store page I will definitely give it a more thorough once over.

    Procedural or structural AI though I don’t even bat an eye on. It’s whatever at that point we have used tools like that for years anyway and it’s never been a problem.

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  • BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Welcome to lemmy, your only allowed response to anything AI related is “AI bad”, otherwise the 20 or so people who actually use this platform will downvote your comment.

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• logicbomb@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Not a single pixel. The code, however…

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• thingsiplay@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Not a single pixel. So they will not generate a single pixel, but multiple pixels?

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  • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Found the lawyer.

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• InFerNo@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Annunziata has been talking about a new game for decades. I’m sceptical he’ll produce a single pixel tout court.

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  • Lvdwsn@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I just want him to bring back SmallBall Baseball man

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• Jankatarch@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I somehow read “not a single pixel will not be AI generated” at first. My brain just defaulted to that. I was confused by the replies for a minute straight.

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• CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Oh god this is going to be awesome to watch this crash and burn

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  • thingsiplay@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Why do you want it to fail? I’m so happy that Sega is one of the companies who does games that are not mainstream boring stuff. In fact, this is something I would expect from a small indie team. Shouldn’t we celebrate that and support?

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    • CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I’m h god I read it wrong! I thought he said the whole thing was going to be AI ack!

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  • Jankatarch@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I did that too at first lmao. With so many bad news about the opposite happening recently the brain just defaults to pessimism.

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• aesthelete@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I wonder if the name Ecco has to do with John C. Lilly.

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• Amoxtli@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Work smarter, not harder.

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  • sundray@lemmus.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Work Steal smarter, not harder.

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  • thingsiplay@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Work smart and hard. :-)

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• Novamdomum@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Watch... They'll make money by virtue signalling "no AI use" and then the second AI inevitably goes mainstream pivot to showing off because they use "the best AI". The trick is to make money no matter which way the wind blows.

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  • sundray@lemmus.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    LOL, it’s not exactly niche right now, my dude.

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• sturmblast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Nice

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• Etterra@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It’s the same kind of sadness that I feel knowing that a ton of YouTubers who would rather not show their face now have to just so that people know that they’re not a fucking clanker. Especially if they’re new at it and don’t have a backlog or community to prove that they’ve been around longer than the AI slop.

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• janewaydidnothingwrong@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Not a single one. In fact it will be nothing less than all of the one’s

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  • sundray@lemmus.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The zeros will be hand-made, however.

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