Microsoft Word is just fine. I assume most of the hate is for Microsoft because Word works just fine for most people’s use cases.
Word.
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buttnugget@lemmy.world 35 minutes ago
faerbit@sh.itjust.works 17 minutes ago
All the issues mentioned in the OP are longstanding issues with word. It’s not “just fine”. It’s really annoying.
red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 hours ago
Kolanaki@pawb.social 14 hours ago
Once you’ve tried VIM, you’ll never go back.
Mostly because you won’t be able to exit VIM.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 14 hours ago
I would use word for this, but I can’t close vim. I guess I’m learning LaTeX.
toynbee@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Last night, I was talking to my brother - who’s a mathematician by trade - and learned the following from him:
LaTeX is Leslie Lamport’s (hence La) macro package on top of TeX.
I’ve never used it, but for around fifteen years I’ve been working around people who do … And yet I never knew that.
famijoku@feddit.org 14 hours ago
:q (my face in reaction to this)
toynbee@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
It’d be more impressive if you went
ZZ.
bigfondue@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
:q!
EffortlessEffluvium@lemmy.zip 9 hours ago
What a strange emoticon…
ttyybb@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Ya, the first few times I used vim (well neovim) I exited by closing the terminal
GreenShimada@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
As someone that recalls using Word 5.5 in DOS for a book report in 5th grade, as with all things, the peak has come and gone.
IMO, the enshittification curve started about 2010ish when MS demanded internet connectivity for features that didn’t work. Saving PDFs was its peak. RIP Word 2007, which I used well into 2015.
BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
Use LibreOffice
Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 hours ago
I used LibreOffice Writer for my coursework the past semester, and when I used my spouse’s Windows computer to double check the images were correctly placed before submitting a paper they were on completely different pages. This was when I saved it as a .docx, because the only two options accepted were .docx or pdf. I wound up doing everything as a pdf if I needed images, but I think LibreOffice doesn’t have a save as pdf option? Or if it did I missed it, I just used Google Docs to save it as a pdf.
theorangeninja@sopuli.xyz 14 hours ago
IIRC you have to use the “Export as” option instead of the “Save as” for a .pdf file.
nabladabla@sopuli.xyz 2 hours ago
There’s a button in the toolbar to export to pdf
bufalo1973@piefed.social 14 hours ago
LibreOffice has a native export to PDF. And, if you use (almost) any Linux, you have a PDF printer included.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 5 hours ago
LibreOffice is as good as Word. Which sadly means there are still no really good document editors out there.
BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
Yeah but it’s free.
Also there may be no good document editors but there is a good typesetting language.
arschfidel@discuss.tchncs.de 7 hours ago
That’s how I feel about most Microsoft products actually.
Aljernon@lemmy.today 3 hours ago
I feel like Microsoft products steadily get worse over time. It’s like they spend money to have their programmers seen how bad a product gets before people will get fed up and dump it.
CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I got so frustrated trying to use Word to write a document at work that I just gave up and wrote the whole damn thing in LaTeX.
Sucks to be the guy who has to edit it when I’m gone.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 7 hours ago
You know it’s bad when I prefer a nice markdown editor to word lol
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
I’m preferring pen & paper over here.
shalafi@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
People aren’t paying for Word, they’re paying for Excel and getting all the other goodies included.
Yeah, LibreOffice is fine for home use, maybe even really small businesses that don’t have to trade spead sheets with external customers, but Excel is the killer app.
Calc’s a fine spread sheet program, but it’s frustrating as hell after using Excel for 30+ years. You can’t trust that it will properly import an Excel sheet and it sure won’t do macros.
GreenShimada@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
100% for real. I simply can’t do freelancing Excel work with LibreOffice because I know the 1:1 compatibility falls apart quickly. Basic formulas are about as far as I can trust it.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 7 hours ago
That’s fair. Imagine if people invested that much time into calc. A person can dream…
toddestan@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
The problem is everyone expects Calc to be Excel, including full compatibility with reading and writing of Excel’s file formats. As Excel is a constantly moving target, following that path means you’ll forever be a second-rate Excel that’ll never quite be fully compatible.
I find Calc to be a fine spreadsheet program myself, though I’m hardly a power user. If you want to use Excel, then just go use Excel.
DaCrazyJamez@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
Is there a decent FOSS alternative to excel? Libre has been my goto for years because I never needed anything more, but just in the kast week I have a new client with some more rigorous needs, and I REALLY dont want to bite the buellt on 365
CorneliusTalmadge@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
ethaver@kbin.earth 9 hours ago
I straight up used draw.io to create a paper form. I needed high information density so I can't waste space formatting stuff the normal way, I need something more graphical and publisher got axed.
lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
$150 a year, you mean
tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
And unwanted AI features!
eatCasserole@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Software as a disservice.
HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
LaTeX supremacy has entered that chat
mitchty@lemmy.sdf.org 5 hours ago
Overfull hbox has left the chat un formatted
otacon239@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
TGFM - Thank God for Markdown
Seriously, though. 9 times out of 10, markdown has all the formatting I need for the task at hand. On the rare occasion I need something more, I’m glad I have access to Apple Pages, but it comes with its own set of unique challenges.
Flamekebab@piefed.social 8 hours ago
I wish Markdown had better support for tables.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 14 hours ago
I miss the Steve Jobs era of iWork.
I won’t say it was the best (why were there no pivot tables in numbers?? And why is the current implementation shit requiring manual refreshes that you can’t rely on?), but the software worked very uniformly and was straight forward.
If he hadn’t died he would still be yelling at them to make keynote and numbers work, and he probably wouldn’t have missed the collaborative editing boat.
green_copper@kbin.earth 14 hours ago
My choice of file-format for documents sorted by complexity of the content:
- Markdown
- Orgmode
- Typst
DeadPixel@lemmy.zip 12 hours ago
I have not come across 2 & 3. Very interested in Typst after a quick look…
lime@feddit.nu 14 hours ago
expecting word to edit pdfs is like expecting excel to edit compiled matlab programs
red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 hours ago
I think from an end-user perspective it’s realistic to expect Word to edit PDFs. It’s just that the PDF format is an unbelievably complex clusterfuck and thus requires an entirely separate and expensive program.
anosym@lemmy.sdf.org 14 hours ago
Also I don’t see the problem with the other two.
Move image? Works fine if you select the right wrapping.
Ignore spelling mistake? Right click -> ignore once / ignore all / add to dictionaryGeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Those without tech literacy love to blame the software.
A bad workman blames his tools after all.
arudesalad@piefed.ca 9 hours ago
From my experience with word, ignore spelling mistake is a lie, it always starts complaining again eventually (and changing spelling from us to uk almost never works)
CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Word works fine and has just about every feature business users needs. This stuff hasn’t been true in a long time.
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 11 hours ago
Word has long since become a low value comodity. Why pay at all when Libre Office does everything well for free.
Thank to US enshittification, governments and corporations around the world are de-americanizing their tech stacks. FOSS for the win.
Microsoft will eat ass.
CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Libre office doesn’t offer you sharing and interactivity with role and user based access, pii and phi scanning, on top on the idp they offer you that can be used in just about any compliance situation.
Nobody is paying for just the notepad editor. They just don’t have to deal with any security whatsoever.
Krudler@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Want to move an image but you don’t know how text wrapping works? Want a .DOCX editor to edit a file format from Adobe? Don’t know to R-Click? This memes for YOU!
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
Microsoft office is why I use iWork.
daggermoon@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Why would anyone use that garbage over Libre Office?
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 7 hours ago
Because businesses have been using it for decades, they have old spreadsheets with all kinds of functions and shit that may not easily port over, etc.
The unfortunate reality.
dan@upvote.au 10 hours ago
I was using LibreOffice Calc on my work PC with a Threadripper CPU, and somehow it still chugs at times. Scrolling was very laggy at times. I ended up using Google Sheets instead, which is way more responsive for me. If it was for personal use, I’d probably try IronCalc
sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 4 hours ago
Zexks@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Anyone who needs to do something serious
shalafi@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
For business, they need Excel.
nforminvasion@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
I love Libreoffice but the dictionary on there is abysmal. Like fully wretched.
I’m sure there’s a way to add others but I just haven’t discovered it yet.
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 12 hours ago
The only thing why this is still the case is because microsoft is bundling everything in a single subscription and is also providing you with software that automatically keeps everything updated.
The software is shit, but companies using the entire ecosystem probably save money. Sadly.
Diddlydee@feddit.uk 14 hours ago
It’s free (aaaaar) and it does everything I need it to. The pdf editing is a dream though. Use something else.
TomMasz@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Survival of the
fittestinescapable.Kronusdark@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
At least for me, 99% of the time, Even for work applications, a plain text editor gets the job done. And if I need something fancier, Markdown solves that remaining 1%.
Korne127@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Honestly, I don’t think it’s the standard anymore. I wish it was, because as bad as Microsoft is, Google is even worse. But I feel like most people use Google Docs nowadays.
funkajunk@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
It absolutely is.
Looking at business users, 365 has 400+ million, whereas Google has maybe half of that.
UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 3 minutes ago
I think I have used word, like, twice in my life