Glasses are a hotness superpower
Anon considers LASIK
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j4k3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Spoken like someone who has normie glasses
Talk to me when your prescription is -13 or worse, your glasses always have to be special ordered with the most expensive high index lenses, your glasses are physically heavy, and they distort your face so the area around your eyes looks far away.
You go to warby Parker and get the $99 frames but it’s still somehow $230. Even a place like Zenni is $75 for 1.74 lenses (not including frames).
Also you have to be cautious about what frames you pick because the larger your lenses are the thicker they’ll be. You one of those zoomers that wants cute big grandma glasses? Bad plan
TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I will be with you there soon.
-7 and deteriorating like a mother fucker.
merc@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Not just that, but you’re absolutely blind without your glasses. Someone sexily takes them off to look at you sexily, you’re now squinting and can barely see their face. You wake up in the morning and either put on your glasses or pick up your phone and put it right next to your face otherwise you can’t see it.
There’s a reason why any scene where an actor wears glasses they have essentially zero prescription, unless the goal is to make someone look nerdy. (Aside: Stephen Root is an incredible actor!) In fact, it gets even more ridiculous. There are pictures of Brad Pitt wearing glasses going all the way back to the 1990s. But, when he’s in a movie role he’s wearing contacts and then has zero-prescription glasses on.
nesc@lemmy.cafe 3 weeks ago
Laser correction won’t really help in these extreme cases, no?
Jesus_666@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
230 bucks? I usually paid twice that. Then I spent 7000 bucks on getting ICLs implanted. The years later my eyes got worse again so now I’m wearing glasses again plus I’m a bit farsighted from the ICLs.
But those glasses are only at -2 dpt and are so comparatively cheap that I’m still saving money over my expected lifespan.
So. Fucking. Worth. It.
coaxil@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
You rep a -13 in both eyes? Ouch, my -9 is bad enough, and I feel you in the pain of everything relating to glasses is very custom and very expensive, I get the extra bonus of I’m a large human, at 6 foot 6 and that reduces the small selection of frames i can choose from even further, as so many just don’t fit my large head.
Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
*“Optional” glasses are a hotness super power.
Real glasses are more about how you see than how you look.
ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
: Bubbles from Trailer Park Boys enters the chat :
ghostlychonk@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Honestly that meteorologist that sadly took her own life several years back after having really bad complications from laser eye surgery was more than enough to convince me to not get it done.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Source on that?
Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Not the first and won’t be the last.
Pencilnoob@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
There’s a lot of folks in the comments who are pretty cavalier about the safety, yet the CEO who produces Lasik machines refuses to get the procedure and just wears glasses.
Obviously there’s a lot of folks happy with it.
However, many people end up needing glasses within ten years. “Relating to the legal requirements in Germany, sufficient visual acuity was found in 76.7 % of the LASIK group, in 73.9 % of the Ortho-K users and in 85.7 % of the reference group (72.7 % in the adult group, 100 % in the juvenile group).” pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23508754/
“Nearly 5% of subjects were dissatisfied with their vision after Lasik… eyes feeling irritated (50%), glare (43%), halos (41%), and [trouble] seeing in dim light (35.2%).” Source: Mamalis N. Laser vision correction among physicians: “the proof of the pudding is in the eating”. J Cataract Refract Surg. 2014 Mar;40(3):343-4.
“Lasik Suicide” is a real thing, most of the folks who have been affected don’t take the time to say much about the excruciating pain, they just commit suicide.
www.lasikcomplications.com/suicide.htm
Definitely think very carefully, your eyes are something you can’t fix if you get this surgery. For some people enough nerves are damaged to cause persistent pain that doesn’t go away.
I almost got the surgery a few years ago, if it worked 100% of the time I would have taken the risk. But vision is so important that I didn’t want to take the risk. Several of my family members did get it and still have dry eyes and halos ten years later, and two now need glasses again anyway.
Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
The sample size of that study was only ~300 people. A study with 20,000 participants in Singapore found that 90% of patients had 20/40 or higher vision after 10 years. It found that high-myopia (-14+)(the most extreme form of near sightedness) patients had a much higher rate of regression, with 39% of those patients losing 2 points or more from their vision within 10 years of tratment (and likely choosing to wear glasses [not listed in the study] or get retreatment [27%]).
So basically, if you have extreme vision problems before LASIK you’re much more likely to have to wear glasses again down the road.
Also, worth pointing out that almost everyone will need reading glasses as they age regardless of LASIK. This conversation only surrounds glasses for near sightedness.
Pencilnoob@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Good points. So roughly 10% chance of needing to get glasses or surgery again, which gets higher the worse your vision is to start.
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Yup friend of the family got it years ago and now sees coronas of light intensely enough while driving at night that they had to stop driving at night in their mid-40s.
Philharmonic3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
What’s the success rate? Oh yeah, over 95%. Get outta here
taxiiiii@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
meaning around 1 in 20 people who do it end up facing consequences?
TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
A little less so when the main consequence 1/20 people face is something like dry eyes.
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Xcom players: nah. Fuck that
UniversalBasicJustice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I feel this in my bones…
…unlike the Muton who just Neo’d his way through 4 overwatches.
Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
5% is way too high of a chance of getting permanent chronic dry eyes.
Go look at horror stories on the dry eyes subreddit and take note of the people considering a permanent solution.
ceenote@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
To each their own, I guess. For me, it was some of the best money I’ve ever spent. My research ahead of it suggested that the most likely permanent side effect was halos, and I’m inclined to think that even if that had happened, it still would have been a net positive.
sandman2211@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Had mine done almost 18 years ago and absolutely 0 regrets. One eye went from 20/200 to better than 20/20. The other wasn’t as bad and was corrected to be 20/15. Vision has not regressed at all in either eye. Dryness was mild at first but completely recovered after several months. I’ve had no halos or night vision problems. The most important thing to remember is that not all procedures are equal, and not all clinics are either. Go to a few different eye doctors and ask who is the best in town, and then go there. Don’t get quotes, don’t shop for coupons, and don’t go with the 2nd lowest bidder. If you can’t afford what the best surgeons in town are charging, then you don’t do it. I had to save for 4 years to pay for mine. The next most important thing is to follow every instruction and post-op care recommendation they give you to the letter. I wore those sleep goggles, stayed out of the pool, and avoided touching my eyes for 2x longer than they recommended.
Granted, my research on this is all 18 years old but this was not a brand new procedure even back then. I was convinced that the vast majority of horror stories came from people who did not go to good clinics or did not follow post-op care instructions. If you remove them from the dataset the procedure looks a whole lot less risky than what the naysayers in this thread would have you believe.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You missed the part where not all LASIK procedures are “bladeless”. As in: there is an eye knife.
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I don’t have eye problems of any kind. Don’t even need reading glasses…
And even I cried upon reading this.
farngis_mcgiles@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
just wait you’ll get there
the_tab_key@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Have had it done, bladed. Yes, you look straight at it, but you can’t see shit anyway because of the drops they put in your eyes first. I was much less concerning than I expected.
That was only for one eye though. The other was not a candidate for LASIK, so I had the alternative procedure known as PRK. This one is super fun because instead of cutting the cornea off then put it back on (LASIK), they just scrape off the outer layer of the cornea.
breecher@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Yeah, the vision during the procedure was not an issue at all. The smell of burnt eye as the laser works away was a bit off putting though. I can testify that burnt eye smells a lot similar to burnt hair.
salmoura@lemmy.eco.br 3 weeks ago
As if I hadn’t enough reasons to avoid that procedure.
Kowowow@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I’m not sure if I look better without glasses or I just look better in SD
Obi@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
I just don’t mind my glasses that much that I want to put myself through this/take the risk/pay the cost. I’ve had them since I was a child, I’m used to them and as far as I know, that’s still what has the least side/adverse effects.
nomy@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I can think of two specific instances in my life when wearing glasses saved me from serious eye damage, I’m sure there were more.
rockstarmode@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You can still wear glasses, and not need them.
I live in a sunny place, so I’m never outside without wearing my sunglasses. As you’ve pointed out they’ve saved my eyes from traumatic injury at least a dozen times over the years.
I wear safety glasses when I’m working around the house with anything that could be considered a power tool (kitchen mixer, drill, etc…) and those have saved me a few times as well.
But not needing glasses, now that could be a lifesaver. I have a close relative who is basically blind without his glasses. He’s told me that if he’s in an unfamiliar place and is woken up by the fire alarm, there’s a good chance he can’t find his way out without his glasses.
neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Yeah! This ^ Lasik doesn’t sound worth the risks at all.
snoons@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
To each there own. I got lasik’d because I hate having my very existence almost entirely reliant on this fragile glass and plastic thing on my face that I had to constantly clean. I also want to go hiking for more then a day, so I went ahead with it. I wish I had went for the femtosecond operation in another city though, less chance for dry-eye.
UnfairUtan@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Why would glasses prevent you from hiking multiple days?
snoons@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
If they get lost or damaged I would be stressed for the whole time. Just a me thing.
JDPoZ@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Had all-laser LASIK done in 2007.
Was scary, and the excimer laser sounded like a giant electrical wasp, but overall, I’ve had zero problems. Best procedure I’ve ever had done.
My older sibling had it done back then, too. No issues. 2 other close friends did the same. Not a single issue.
Give it a rest people.
Go get checked to see if you’re a valid candidate, and have the procedure done by a professional ophthalmologist with an “all-laser” setup who has more than a decade or so of experience and also has the $200,000 equipment to do it right and a lifetime contract-backed guarantee, and you will be happy with the choice you made.
VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
My aunt got corrective eye surgery and was really happy with it, but her description of the experience made me want to never do it. For whatever procedure she had, they had to keep her awake to provide feedback while also scalpelling open the lens of her eye and she said she could smell her eyeball being lasered. She had absolutely no side effects and loves not needing to wear glasses, but her telling me what the procedure was like put it firmly in the hell no category for me.
rooroo@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Yup. The procedure is like something out of a body horror movie. Nothing I’d wanna do again for fun. Still 10/10 payoff, would do again.
truxnell@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
I got LASIK about 10 years ago. Can confirm both the visual experience of watching them laser/scalpel my lens off, as well as the highly unique smell of buring eye. Along with the painful light sensitivity that persisted for like a year. Hell I got a USB at the end with a video of the procedure to relive.
Totally worth it though
Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The most important thing to remember, is they also put you on a medically supervised dose of what is essentially an anti-anxiety medication. So you actually like don’t care at all during the procedure. Like you are fully aware and fully alert, but you are super cool with what is going on. It’s all chill, a totally normal thing, could do it every day if need be.
Redex68@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
How do they keep your eyes from looking away or blinking while they’re doing it if it’s whilst you’re awake?
vodka@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
They use anaesthetic eye drops that makes your eye not move around, and they clamp open your eyelids.
Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
That’s what it was like for me, but it only took like 2 minutes so… I’ve had worse. Going on ten years with dope vision.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I worked (assisted with minor tasks) in a surgical room where those surgeries were done on a 15 minute cycle per eye. It’s a fairly routine and clean thing for cataracts or frontal chamber lenses (like eye-internal glasses) when your own lens is still intact. Better thank Lasik for sure
Shanedino@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Risk management isn’t solely based on how bad the outcome is but also on how likely that outcome is.
dukeofdummies@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I did it because I was blind. Hella blind. -6 and -9. When covid hit I suddenly realized that if supply shortages ever hit hard and I lost my glasses, I was absolutely fucked.
I could not drive, I could not use two monitors, I would be functionally blind… I always joked I would be dead weight in the apocalypse but in the midst of a hurricane, a wildfire, I could be absolutely fucked. With months before a replacement pair could be acquired. And with all the shit that went wrong with covid… I just wanted to hedge my bets.
RBWells@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I was a very early adopter, as soon as lasik came out I got it, the radial-k that preceded it couldn’t handle my prescription. It’s regressed over the intervening 30 years, but even now I wear thin light glasses and can at least sort of see without them.
You know what sold me on this, even though the vision isn’t as good as I could get with hard contacts? My mom had to go back to glasses after wearing contacts for years because the contacts wore away her corneas! At least the glasses I have to wear at this age are only like a -2 prescription, that’s much more comfortable than what they would have been.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
There definitely are risks and i feel doctors can be too cavalier about those risks
Having said that, i got the procedure done 5 years ago, and install have better than 20/20 vision. The only issue inhad afterwards was that i could see things up to 1cm away from my eye ball, now that is 30cm at the least and since the last year or so i cannot read the 2 pixel size texts on medicine bottles anymore
Beyond that, I’m super happy with the result
henfredemars@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
I happen to just like wearing glasses.
bdjegifjdvw@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
One of the best decisions I every made, going from essentially blond without glasses to not needing them. Especially as someone who enjoys a lot of outdoor activities, not being made helpless by a lost or broken pair of glasses is a huge weight off my mind
Matriks404@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t plan to do LASIK, unless:
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I am not able to put my glasses on;
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When my glasses break, I am not able to go outside and drive by bus to the nearest glasses repair shop.
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stebo02@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
tbf every medical intervention has its risks but it doesn’t often go wrong (assuming the surgeon knows what they’re doing
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
It is nasty if it goes wrong. I know someone where it did and he was knocked out in a pretty bad way for a while until it could be fixed (though it was fixed).
Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Anon is tyhe type of guy who looks at a California Prop 65 label and believes the worst in everything.
Shizu@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Aspirin has a risk of giving headaches…
Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
also people with damage to thier cornea, like from shingles even if it made a small scar on the sclera, makes in ineligble for lasik.
Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
night lenses,
game changer
no idea why they are so obscure (besides conspiracy theories)
wear them while sleeping. perfect eyesight.
used to wear them for a few years, stopped, because one possible side effect is that it will improve your eye sight.
I no longer need glasses.
lowered_lifted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Bob’s Discount LASIK Barn or whatever it is called down by the Confederate flag monument on the 5 had a big sign for the Nazi “America first” congressman and I feel like I wasn’t about to trust my eyes to them anyway but I especially want to avoid them now, Jesus fuck
Boomkop3@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
Yes, 99% safe. Be very scared :p
rekabis@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I never had it done for two main reasons:
- Actual cutting of the cornea.
- A cripplingly negative response to anything that surgically impacts my body. Even giving blood triggers an overwhelming need to inject it right back into me.
Knowing what I do about CC and the astronomically high likelihood of global civilizational collapse before mid-century, I should really have something like that done so I can do without glasses if absolutely necessary. Assuming I live that long, that is. Which, judging from the current advanced age of my own parents, is a decent “likely”.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Wife got lasik over ten years ago. Vision is great. We live in one of the moist parts of Texas, so dry eyes have never really been an issue. Absolutely none of that other stuff is relevant.
That said, she’s no longer perpetually wearing a semi-efficient pair of goggles, so when our son tries to grab for her face his fingers go directly into her eyeball rather than being deflected harmlessly away by super-hard transparent glass. Also, completely fucked when it comes to cutting onions.
I’ll keep my glasses, thank you.
pbjelly@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I got it done cause I was doing archery and my astigmatism meant I had to shift my glasses onto my nose for it. Contacts would have solved the problem but my eyesight was close to 20/20 and was only ruined by my astigmatism so I never bothered getting fitted for them. Plus, I kinda liked buying stlyish frames which I could wear cause my prescription was so light.
In the end, I had a consultation with a reputable optometrist that rejected a lot of people with thin corneas, dry eyes, and would try to sus out if you’re shopping around for a “yes.” They did not try to minimize the risks and kept reminding me it’s an elective surgery and anything can go wrong in surgery (although, rare).
The main side effects for me were: a painful, burning sting that lasted for 30 mins after surgery (due to correcting my astigmatism), which a nap cured, some lasting light sensitivity at night (LED headlights feel so bright), and a dryness that went away after a few months. What they don’t say is that you’re still healing for more than a few months after surgery so a lot of side effects can linger and fade away with time, and a few may stick.
Now if you don’t want LASIK, there is PRK which doesn’t cut anything off but has a more complicated healing post-surgery regiment and your vision is not 20/20 until at minimum a week after surgery. It also has its own problems depending on how you handled post-op.
In the end, if you realllllly want it and you find a trusted surgeon, and they’ve discussed all risks cause everyone’s eye is different, it’s certainly nice to no longer rely on glasses. But again, absolutely not necessary surgery.
Either way, if you ever get cataract surgery, it’s practically the same procedure of cutting up your eyes and replacing some lenses. (Also if you get LASIK, keep your records cause you’ll need em for cataracts).
merc@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
For me, before I got laser surgery, I was once swimming in the ocean at a very big and popular beach. I was wearing contacts because obviously wearing glasses in the water is next to impossible. I got hit by a big wave, tossed around, and lost my contacts. Now I was almost completely blind, in a foreign country where I knew almost nobody, and trying to find my beach towel and bag among thousands of others. I actually can’t remember how I resolved that problem, but I do remember the massive stress and panic being blind like that caused. When I got back from the trip, I got my eyes fixed within a year.
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Not necessarily useful to you any longer, but you can utilize a pinhole lens for situations like that. You can even use your hands/fingers to make the lens. You’ll look fucking ridiculous, but I doubt it’s bother you too much when it’s that or being blind.
truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
To expand on that, you make a very small hole by curling your index finger, and look through that hole.
shneancy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
just tried it and it work?? how
Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
That has limits. Not sure 2hat it comes down to exactly, but under the most ideal conditions I have pulled off yet I’d estimate it improves sight by 3-4.
-8 with the fov of a pinhole is still blind.
echodot@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
The worst one is when you wake up having drunk a little bit too much and you can’t find your glasses. You are now effectively blind and helpless and hungover.
merc@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
If I was at home, I always knew where I had some backup glasses. But yeah, wake up at a friend’s house or something and you’re screwed.
Saleh@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
I once had a friend forget to take out his contacts when drunk. He woke up bleeding from his eyes and struggling to get the things out in severe pain…
Huschke@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Before my wife got the surgery, she used her phones camera to look around. She used to jokingly say that she is a cyborg.
Regarding the topic. For her the procedure was also a game changer.
Slovene@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
The answer to almost all of those is contacts.
shneancy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
maybe not in the case of swimming but when you have your phone around you can always turn on your camera and then look at what it’s showing you
nightofmichelinstars@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
If you can find it
Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
Depends on what issue you have, I get intense headaches/nausea/dizziness from looking at digital screens without my glasses for more than 20 seconds or so. The longer I look at them the worse it gets and longer it lasts. So it’s not really viable.
FiskFisk33@startrek.website 3 weeks ago
i have prescription swimming goggles
merc@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Yep, a good idea, but if you use them when playing in the ocean and are hit by a big wave, they can be knocked off.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
That’s actually awesome, I didn’t know those existed.
KalSeth@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
but you didn’t have any massive stress or panic thinking about the worms that burrow into your eyes after wearing contacts in the ocean?
merc@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
No, I was on vacation on Earth, not Proxima Centari 6.
state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Now all I wonder is how the hell you solved that issue.
merc@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
So do I.
So, what I think happened was that I knew roughly where my stuff was. When I went to play in the waves I basically went straight out from my towel. Because of the rip currents I was being pushed sideways while in the waves, but I mostly kept trying to correct for that so that I didn’t wander too far from my stuff. I am pretty sure about that, because that’s what I always do at the beach. I always hate being pushed around by rip currents and am really worried about getting caught in the undertow so I try to stick to the same part of the beach.
When I got tossed by the huge wave(s) I did end up getting moved sideways. I remember that because I remember how out of control I was. But, I suspect it wasn’t too far. So, when I went to search for my stuff I wasn’t searching the entire beach, just a small section of it.
I think I remembered what colours my beach towel was, so I think I just wandered that section of beach, squinting so I could see a bit better, looking for a towel with roughly the right colours and with nobody on it. Then when I thought I had the right one I crouched down to see if I could recognize the bag I brought.
I don’t think I asked for help, which would have been the smart option. But, I was a shy kid in a foreign country so I am pretty sure I didn’t do that.
But really, I don’t remember. I just have a clear memory of how helpless I felt, and a vague memory of wandering up and down the beach. The rest is just reconstructing how I think it probably happened based on vague memories and what I know about myself.