What’s left of edith finch.
Such an amazing game. Absolute masterpiece.
Submitted 1 day ago by weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
What’s left of edith finch.
Such an amazing game. Absolute masterpiece.
So I think it’s actually really important that the games that would be co sidered objective masterpieces would have to overcome any language barriers and be an experience approachable by anyone. You can learn the mechanics to enjoy the gameplay without words
So:
Then there are dialogue option stories that are fantastic stories that I could sider greats but shareable masterpieces is hard to say as they rely on you speaking the language both literally and then gameplay wise:
Immersive sims: Prey, Dishonored, Deus Ex Story-driven: The Last of Us, Horizon Zero Dawn, Halo, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Uncharted, HL2, Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay, Splinter Shock Platformer: Braid, Ori and the Blind Forest, Mario 64, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Limbo Action/roguelike: Bastion, Hades RPG: Fallout: New Vegas, Mass Effect Puzzle: Lumines, Puzzle Quest, World of Goo, You Must Build a Boat, Reigns, Threes, Meteos Other: Desert Golfing
I always forget how absolutely awesome Escape From Butcher Bay is until I’m reminded of its existence and its shockingly unfair to that game.
I’d kill for a new Riddick game!
RDR2. Witcher 3. Fallout New Vegas.
Spec Ops: The line
Basically the “committing war crimes isn’t funny after all” game
This is your fault, god-damnit 🫵
Okay, now do it all on a bell curve.
What’s the most absolute medium game, to which all other games are compared to, and if worse, fail, or are better and pass?
Pong.
It’s that or tetris
Oooooh I like that question. I feel like it would have to be some kind of Call of Duty, right? Some absolutely mediocre slop that still has enough mechanical satisfaction and mind-numbing explosion-and-cliché-filled story to keep you somewhat entertained, yet still remaining completely forgettable.
The McDonald’s of videogames.
There is no game: wrong dimension
SOMA was great
Celeste. Emotional narrative that seamlessly blends with the gameplay, which implementa never before seen accessibility configuration, enhanced by one of the best soundtracks ever. All while being cheap, indie, and one of the best speedrun games ever made
I think Bioshock 1, Inscryption, Portal 1 & 2(I believe that 2 wouldn’t be so loved if we didn’t already love 1, I like to think of them as a set), Silent Hill 2, Resident Evil, Nier Automata, and Okami.
Glad to see Okami mentioned here. It was poorly marketed, which basically killed the development company… But it was so good.
Some people have called it the best Zelda game never made, and I believe the description is accurate. It has all of the mechanics of Zelda’s puzzlebox dungeons. It’s just a different setting, and the “tools” to solve the puzzles are your brush abilities.
My only real complaint about the game is that it was long. Like every time I expected the game to be wrapping up, it would introduce an entirely new region. But that length also meant it was able to deliver a fully self-contained story that didn’t rely on cliffhangers (sequels) to finish. Sure there were some sequels, but the original story stands on its own without them.
How come no one has mentioned “Life is strange” yet? Also, “A plague tale”.
The intro to a plague tale… Jesus.
Portal 2.
Portal 1 was flawless. Portal 2 had a crucial flaw.
Specifically, it was not Portal 1. Everything else was perfect.
Are you saying that Portal 2 is not perfect due is a sequel?
This was a triumph
I’m making a note here
“Huge success”
It’s hard to overstate my satisfaction
There are a lot of answers, mine will be drowned but… there it is. In no particular order :
Just started BG3. Fuckin mind-blowingly amazing.
If you really liked BG3 you might also like Neverwinter Nights 2 and DA:O. I heard there was a remaster of Neverwinter Nights 2 in the works, maybe give it a try when it comes out.
Since I haven’t seen it on here: FTL.
Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 Disco Elysium Alpha Centauri Super Marios Bros 3 Bloodborne Ori 1 & 2 Fallout 1 & 2 Planescape: Torment
Atari: Frogger NES: RBI Baseball / Tecmo Bowl Genesis: Phantasy Star IV N64: Ocarina PSX: FF IX PSP: Lumines Saturn: Panzer Dragoon Dreamcast: Rez and Skies of Arcadia PS2 Vice City XBOX: PD Orta 360: Child of Eden / Shadow Complex PC agree with all yours. Would add Syndicate Witcher 3 DS: Dawn of Sorrow Neo Geo: Last Blade 2
Super Metroid
Just out of curiosity, listing the games mentioned here as of this writing and their date of release:
Release Date | Game |
---|---|
1980 | Pac-Man |
1985 | The Oregon Trail (assuming widely-played 1985 game) |
1986 | Kid Icarus |
1988 | Mega Man 2 |
1988 | Super Mario Brothers 3 |
1988 | Tetris |
1988 | The Guardian Legend |
1989 | Abadox: The Deadly Inner War |
1989 | Ironsword: Wizards & Warriors II |
1989 | Monster Party |
1989 | Populous |
1989 | Sweet Home |
1990 | Dr. Mario |
1990 | Final Fantasy III |
1991 | Battletoads (assuming original game) |
1991 | The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past |
1992 | Ecco the Dolphin |
1992 | Sonic the Hedgehog 2 |
1992 | Super Mario Kart |
1993 | Dinopark Tycoon |
1993 | Doom |
1993 | Gauntlet IV |
1993 | Lufia & the Fortress of Doom (assuming first game) |
1993 | Mega Man X |
1994 | Donkey Kong Country |
1994 | Earthworm Jim |
1994 | Sonic & Knuckles |
1994 | Sonic the Hedgehog 3 |
1994 | Super Metroid |
1994 | The Lion King |
1995 | Chrono Trigger |
1997 | Castlevania: Symphony of the Night |
1997 | Diablo |
1997 | Final Fantasy VII |
1997 | Final Fantasy VII |
1997 | Mega Man X4 |
1997 | Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee |
1997 | Snowboard Kids |
1998 | Banjo-Kazooie |
1998 | Metal Gear Solid |
1998 | Sonic Adventure |
1998 | South Park |
1998 | StarCraft: Brood War |
1999 | Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings |
1999 | Heroes of Might and Magic III |
1999 | Planescape:Torment |
1999 | Quake III Arena |
1999 | RollerCoaster Tycoon |
1999 | Silent Hill |
1999 | Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike |
1999 | Sven Co-op |
1999 | Unreal Tournament |
1999 | Worms Armageddon |
2000 | Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2 |
2000 | Diablo II |
2000 | Resident Evil CODE: Veronica |
2000 | SimCity 3000 Unlimited |
2000 | Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 |
2001 | Ace Combat 04: Shattered Skies |
2001 | Final Fantasy X |
2001 | Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty |
2001 | Shenmue II |
2002 | The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind |
2003 | Beyond Good & Evil |
2003 | Need for Speed: Underground |
2003 | Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic |
2004 | Ace Combat 5: The Unsung War |
2004 | Champions of Norrath |
2004 | Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas |
2004 | Gran Turismo 4 |
2004 | Half Life 2 |
2004 | Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater |
2004 | The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap |
2005 | Champions: Return to Arms |
2005 | Psychonauts |
2005 | Shadow of the Colossus |
2006 | Ace Combat Zero: The Belkan War |
2006 | Ōkami |
2007 | BioShock |
2007 | *Dark Souls |
2007 | Mass Effect |
2007 | Portal |
2008 | Clonk Rage |
2008 | Left 4 Dead |
2008 | Mirror’s Edge |
2008 | Super Smash Bros. Brawl |
2009 | Dragon Age: Origins |
2009 | Forza Motorsport 3 |
2009 | Killing Floor |
2009 | Left 4 Dead 2 |
2009 | Plants vs. Zombies |
2009 | Steins;Gate |
2010 | Battlefield: Bad Company 2 |
2010 | Limbo |
2010 | Nier |
2010 | Planet Minigolf |
2011 | Bastion |
2011 | Portal 2 |
2011 | Terraria |
2011 | The Binding of Isaac |
2012 | Hotline Miami |
2012 | The House in Fata Morgana |
2012 | Tokyo Jungle |
2014 | Forza Horizon 2 |
2014 | LISA: The Painful |
2015 | Bloodborne |
2015 | Ori and the Blind Forest |
2015 | The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt |
2015 | Undertale |
2016 | Doom (2016) |
2016 | Kirby: Planet Robobot |
2016 | Stardew VAlley |
2016 | The Witness |
2016 | Titanfall 2 |
2016 | Tyranny |
2017 | Little Nightmares |
2017 | Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (for Deluxe version) |
2017 | Nier: Automata |
2017 | Night in the Woods |
2017 | Super Mario Odyssey |
2017 | The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |
2018 | Celeste |
2018 | Donut County |
2018 | Return of the Obra Dinn |
2018 | Rimworld |
2018 | Subnautica |
2019 | A Short Hike |
2019 | Disco Elysium |
2019 | Outer Wilds |
2019 | Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice |
2019 | Slay the Spire |
2020 | Cyberpunk 2077 |
2020 | Factorio |
2020 | Hades |
2021 | Everhood: An Ineffable Tale of the Inexpressible Divine Moments of Truth |
2021 | Psychonauts 2 |
2022 | Elden Ring |
2022 | Lil Gator Game |
2023 | Baldur’s Gate 3 |
2023 | Dave the Diver |
2024 | Balatro |
2025: Clair Obscur Expedition 33.
Even if the year is not finished, this game is such a perfect work of art on so many levels that it became the new favorite to me, and to plenty other players.
Going to have to disagree, especially when it comes to storytelling
Has seriously no one mentioned The Last of Us? That’s crazy.
I think the second should be included.
As well as red dead redemption 2.
The storytelling is just top tier. Better than literally almost all media made today.
Last of Us 1 was really good. But the second one was so bad, it kind of ruined the first one for me as well. And I wouldn’t call it masterpiece. Because for me a masterpiece shines in gameplay, narrative and atmosphere. The Last of Us’ gameplay serves its purpose, but there’s really nothing special here compared to e.g. Elden Ring, were story, atmosphere and gameplay are all pretty much perfect.
Rdr2 was the only game that I was actually emotionally tied to the characters. It was truly a masterpiece.
Missing Half-life (the first one). That game was the first one to feature scripted scenes during player interaction and it was mind-blowing. Plus, it had the most sophisticated story ever seen in an FPS before.
Tokyo Jungle, YES!
A game so sadly lost to time. My partner’s PS3 still has it installed, but no idea if the hard drive is still functional…
Slay the Spire
It’s a niche masterpiece, but my 600 hours of play time agrees I am in that niche
Flawed Masterpieces
Masterpiece in my heart: Terraria
Good list. I desperately wanted to put Dark Souls on my list, as the first blind playthrough of it was a magical experience. But I don’t think it’s correct, no matter how much I love it. Flawed masterpiece is about right.
Yeah the souls games are something I like in spite of all of the things wrong with them. There is just so much jank and bizarre design decisions.
I kinda hate that all of the games that have tried to copy them have done so to a point of not critically evaluating everything in them. And then they have all the same flaws, but none of the unique charm that makes me look past them for FROM’s games.
Zelda: A Link to the Past
Factorio.
I think Outer Wilds is the most unique and fantastic way to tell a story I’ve ever experienced. Truly open in a way I’ve not seen before or since.
With the banger of a soundtrack too, I just can’t bring myself to rate other games higher than it; even if I enjoy them more, Outer Wilds is probably the best game I’ve ever played.
Slay the Spire probably makes the list as it’s inspired countless tweaks on its incredibly balanced deck building experience
Metro 2033. Played it in the dark with good surround sound headphones on, and it’s positively claustrophobic.
Last Light is good too, but at little too optimistic IMHO. 2033 nails that endless pit of despair feeling, with just enough lucky breaks that you might make it through.
I would absolutely put that game up high on the lists as it is a perfect piece of atmospheric gameplay of misery incarnate.
Holy shit somehow no one has mentioned:
Nier Automata.
It counts as a masterpiece because of how well it blends game design and story. I have played very few games as thoughtful, or that weaved the gameplay together into the story it was telling in such a meaningful way. I never thought once in my life that I would think philosophically about bullet hell but somehow Nier Automata has something profound to say and even manages to say it using bullet hell as a gameplay mechanic.
On top of all this, it also has a lot to say about classical philosophers, their works, and honestly deeply subverts things they had to say.
Further, Yoko Taro is doing something that a lot of game developers fail to manage to do: He is embracing gaming as a storytelling medium and eschewing the traditional three-act arc from film. Because gaming is not film. As Marshall McLuhan posited, “the medium is the message” and unlike other developers Taro’s writing is aimed at the medium he is working in instead of leaning on the ropes and tropes of other mediums. (Referring back to above, tying the gameplay into the story, focusing on the medium)
It’s basically impossible to not break down into tears at the ending.
Don’t write it off because of the scantily clad anime women. Stay for the depth of the human condition. It is truly a masterwork in multiple respects.
I appreciate that you justified your submission, unlike many answers here.
I tried to play that game, expecting perhaps a DMC-like gameplay.
Instead I got a 2D plane scroller?
Then 2D sort of platformer?
Then some weird 3D action that I did not understand at all?
What the fuck is that game.
If I enjoyed combat more, I could give it another go. But it was just not for me.
It’s basically impossible to not break down into tears at the ending.
The god damn ending is a gameplay mechanic to tell a not yet finished story. Damn you Yoko Taro
The wild part is that he’s so good at subverting anime tropes, too. The “killing god” trope is mentioned in the first lines of the game… and then going on to battling the end credits themselves?? Literally killing the gods who created the world this all exists in? Taking it to the absurd yet logical extreme, so brilliant.
Nier Automata
I loved Nier Replicant, but didn’t get into Automata, maybe I’ll give it another shot. I do love that style of storytelling though.
Man, I wish I understood a single bit of this evaluation of the game after finishing every chapter (sorry - “Ending”). The whole thing felt mostly like a waste of time.
That said, I’m a fan of Spec Ops: The Line, a game that has much the same level of division among its players. Interesting how philosophical games get that reaction.
One of my favorite games of all time.
I didn’t know Chris Plante is on Lemmy.
Quick, go through their post history and see if they’ve mentioned any Neil Breen films
For a moment I thought you were talking about the Newsmax host and I was very offended and confused, but it looks like there is another, lesser known Chris Plante in gaming journalism.
We’ll see how much is recency bias and how well it will stand the test of time, but I really think Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 will be on this list going forward. It’s definitely one of the best games I’ve ever played, and I’ve played a lot of games. It’s not perfect, but it’s close enough in all the parts that actually matter.
Otherwise there’s your usual suspects:
Disco Elysium Portal Half-Life 2 Bioshock 1 Final Fantasy VI Chrono Trigger Zelda: Ocarina of Time The Last of Us Baldur’s Gate 2
Props for DE being at the top of your list.
I still have to play it, but Clair Obscus seems like this year Baldur’s Gate 3, which is rare. A game that came out of no where and is ready to win goty
I know this is a hot take, but: BG3 is a good game. Clair Obscur is a work of art.
Supergiant games’ holy trinity: Bastion, Transistor and Pyre.
Also, the only Borderland games 1 and 2; don’t believe the lies there are no more true Borderlands games and no there most certainly is no movie.
There’s also one other, but you’ll need a crowbar or a gravity gun in hand for me to tell you about it.
You are wrong about borderlands as there is one more and it is pretty muc h perfect.
Tales from the Borderlands.
Shame they never made a sequel for it but the artistry, music and story are all so well crafted. Someone loved Borderlands making that.
Feels odd to include Hades over Pyre.
Bastion and Transistor, sure. Without a doubt, imoactful clever stories that were well delivered.
Pyre always felt like a buggy mess tho. I tried multiple times to get into it but it’s just not on the level of the first two.
Katamari Damacy. It has a reputation for being silly Japanese nonsense, but the gameplay is brilliant, the graphics are timeless, the soundtrack is incredible, and it has some surprising thematic depth.
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Zetta@mander.xyz 16 minutes ago
Team Fortress 2
The best teamshooter game to date, endless copy cats that suck ass.
weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world 10 minutes ago
And the character trailers are hilarious.
“That thing … It scares me,” Pyro shooting bubbles and lollypops in his mind actually causing pure death and destruction