Submitted 3 weeks ago by iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
Microsoft seems lost, they’re so interested in constantly changing everything to steal more of your information instead of just maintaining the massive lead they have.
They can’t seem to just make something work, always manipulating the systems, and such none of it is very good, but when you try to be the best at everything you end up mediocre. Good thing they got a market lock when they did.
Microsoft is a collection of fiefdoms, each led by a Lord (Product Manager) who drive projects which have two possible motivations: 1) promotion 2) bonus. Quality is not a factor and hasn’t been for decades. Cohesion? No. The lords sometimes fight amongst themselves. They serve the line go up. Everything is line go up. There is no bottom to the products. Line must go up
Yep, used to work for them, this is a very accurate and succinct analogy to use.
True pioneers of corporate neofeudalism.
Well said.
I finally had enough about a year ago and decided to bite the bullet and just install Linux. I honestly expected to run into all kinds of problems, particularly since I primarily use my desktop for gaming, but I’ve been very surprised how few problems I’ve actually had. It’s certainly not been completely problem free, but I wouldn’t say I’ve encountered more problems with Linux than I have in Windows. Different problems for sure, but not more, and honestly about equally difficult to fix.
I feel like there’s more options to fix things in Linux. On windows it felt someone’s your just got a brick wall with an issue just because Windows want designed around the fix you envisioned.
What distro are you using? I really wanna take the leap and have the same worries
I have a mini PC that I dual boot (separate drives), but struggle with Linux on it, I have a couple other systems running Linux (Mint), and since it only streams Jellyfin I just don’t put the effort into the full switch. Biggest concern is my with comp, but can’t do much about that
We’re still feeling the damage done by the Microsoft monopoly from the '90s. Only historians will be able to say how far they sent us back.
You’d think a company that runs a search engine would understand SEO…
They don’t want you searching it. They want you to pay them to fix it
AI still needs to be able to identify the thing you’re asking about. The AI still searches for things if it’s not already in its memory-it even tells you when it’s scanning different sources.
That all breaks with bad seo
This would probably matter more if every search for “windows 10 problem XY” wouldn’t turn up 100% garbage from their support forums anyway.
Hello my name is Ranjid, im a MSVP, but not associated with Microsoft. Have you tried reinstalling Windows or talking to your system administrator?
Have you tried SFC /scannow, dism repair, or factory reset?
Anti-SEO pushes you to use AI to get help instead
AI still uses SEO or it’s database equivalent to figure out what you’re talking about about. Or to scan for new info - which they currently do
But if you can’t google a solution to a problem there is no problem.
I saw a video recently they said the google search being bad is intentional. Because then you have to spend more time on google, thus seeing more ads.
That’s a bold move cotton. Let’s see how it plays out
Yes, but I feel that’s strategic to make us feel we need AI to do the work for us.
Except the AI needs that info searchable for itself. L
So, no. It’s just dumb.
There’s a reason why I never use Bing
Even better than that, the old remote desktop app from the Windows store is being discontinued and has a banner at the top telling you to use the Windows app instead. The new Windows app does not support RDP on Windows:
Did microsoft make a new protocol that isnt rdp? Or did they switch to a new one?
I use rdp a lot to remote into work so if that changes, i need to know 😅
It probably still uses rdp, but doesn’t let you connect to your own instances, just the cloud ones.
No they just have no replacement for it yet other than the inbuilt RDP app that comes with Windows (or third party apps). I don’t believe the protocol itself is changing
To be fair Store apps need to die. Any multi-user system and its a clusterfuck to keep them updated and secure.
recently, I need to remote desktop from Mac to Windows, and I was searching around for products, and I came across a blog post recommending Windows App, and I had no fucking idea what it was. I thought it may have been a windows 8 app that is discontinued. The geniuses at microsoft SUCK at naming. Xbox, Xbox 360, xbox One (which was actually the third iteration, for some reason), xbox series x/s. Like wtf.
Windows 1, 2, 3, 95, 98, Me, 2000, XP, Vista, 7???, 8, 8.1, 10???, 11, 11 21H2, 11 22H2, …
When windows 9 comes out it will all work again.
AFAIK, Windows was discontinued after Vista. Windows 7 is actually the 7^th iteration of the Microsoft version of OS/2, which was rebranded as Windows NT with the release of the third version, and as Windows sine NT with the seventh version. Windows 9 had to be skipped because a sloppy version check for Windows 95/98 would have failed.
You forgot Windows 3.1. That one was a pretty significant update
The geniuses at microsoft SUCK at naming
Apple is worse. Everything has the same name but gen 1, gen 2, gen 3 as a suffix.
At least the numbers are sequential there, though…
don’t worry, microsoft will surely make a discord where all their knowledge bases and information will be moved to, making it even easier to find info than it already is /s
But first they’ll buy Discord and force everyone to abandon their exiting usernames to use a Microsoft account with it instead.
Same but - I was actually relieved Microsoft finally MADE an RDP client for Mac again. What was wrong with RDP for Mac? It was fine and they axed it. But them replacing RDP everywhere is just hilarious.
They didn’t even change anything except the ui. It’s still just old rdp with less features.
Autopilot and Autopilot Device Preparation spring to mind. Two distinct products, and yet they’ve gone down the Wii U naming route
I don’t work for them, but I’d recommend Jump Desktop for that. Works very well and has been out for quite some time.
Is that Steve Jobs with a Butthead mouth? Beautiful.
It definitely made me think of Jobs when I saw it. Not sure about the mouth part.
It’s about time that someone cleaned up that stupid mess on the left.
Did Microsoft leave their marketing department to AI or something? They really seem to be dropping the ball rn with app names, and recognition.
(Teams New vs. Teams (New))
Outlook (deprecated)
New Outlook
Outlook
New Outlook 3DS XL
Outlook (new)
Outlook (New)
Microsoft Outlook
Outlook (formerly Outlook New) for Live (formerly Outlook Cloud)
You forgot the “classic” version(s?)… God dammit I hate it so much. Why? I can’t even tell the difference and I’m the reactionary kinda guy that ditched Ubuntu over the gui switch in 2012!
Outlook (classic)
not to be outdone with “google meet” and “google meet (original)”
This seals it for me. They aren’t using version control but are making copies of the working directory with this result.
AI would do a better job
Ed Zitron wrote a blog post I’ve been thinking about, where he said that a lot of decisions are made by “business idiots” now. People that don’t really use or understand the product, and don’t really understand the users or their needs. It’s an interesting read, even though the guy is rather verbose: wheresyoured.at/the-era-of-the-business-idiot/
Thank you so much for posting this. I already liked Ed’s work but this one was a cut above and it’s going to be marinating in my head for the foreseeable future.
I remember Noam Chomsky talking about this a number of years ago. It’s true. We don’t want technocrats, but worthless dumbfucks are also quite scary.
zitron is godly
Corporate brain rot. Or they want the ability it provides to die.
HBO Max -> Max -> HBO Max again
Tropicana removing fruit imagery from their fucking fruit juices
The 12 or more fucking copilots
Convert kit to Seva (or whatever)
Loads recently I’m forgetting
Dell Latitude is now “Plus”
Is it a laptop, an iPhone size? Is it a digital TV service? Is it a goddamn panty liner?
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE
they want the ability it provides to die.
Terminal Server licensing will be bringing them in a tidy amount of money from on-prem enterprises, but it’s true that Windows App has a heavy focus on Azure and will definitely be aiming to push people in that direction - it can’t even connect to remote Windows PCs.
The world is controlled by idiots and I’m told I’m the fool for not following along
Not to be confused with windows apps, the branded name for UWP apps.
UWP has been deprecated for some time now. thurrott.com/…/microsoft-officially-deprecates-uw…
as it pushes the desktop-focused Windows App SDK (formerly called Project Reunion) and WinUI 3 as the future of Windows application development.
I didn’t know there was a distinction between these and UWP. In any case, I’m pretty sure that these are also called windows apps.
Even “App App” would be better.
that’s the new name for the store now.
great, OneDrive can become “Storage App”, Outlook: “Mail App”, Edge: “Internet App”,… the possibilities are endless!
If I were on their developer team this shit would make me depressed for at least a week. Like, It’s an objectively horrible idea, obviously pushed by someone from marketing or (worse) leadership. An intern can tell you why it’s bad, a fucking llm can see it based on description alone.
Yet everyone have to live with it.
As a Visual Studio Professional user it’s so hard to google help for that too without VSCode leaking into the results.
Just keep using Remote Desktop Connection aka mstsc.exe?
It’s even recommended by Microsoft:
Although replacements have been released, as of the release of the Windows App, Remote Desktop Client is still recommended for use.
Ahh windows. How I don’t miss you.
You just know somebody in that meeting suggested adding “copilot” in there somewhere.
And the thing figured as I was on a corporate network, so it locked itself down and needs settings done by the office 365 administrator. They checked and apparently you need some paid tool to get it working. We’re using an alternative now.
Microsoft is fucking retarded.
Makes sense, the CEO was just saying the other day that 30% of their code was written by AI
Can’t be worse than using the letter “x”.
Still laughing my ass off… Imagine trying to Google for solutions to “windows app” :) :)
Are they doing this on purpose? Why would they even do something like that?
I didn’t believe it until i verified it. This shit is true. Wtf! techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/…/4390893
MS hasnt improved for the user in about 20 years, not a surprise.
Probably another case of too many bean counters (and marketing majors), and not enough software developers. Windows hasn’t innovated in forever. Seems like they’re the Walmart of operating systems, just cheaper and easier for most people.
I work in the window industry…like for buildings. I’m used to Microsoft constantly fucking up my queries
On the phone (well, teams call): “Just open the windows app…”
Office365 -> Copiot365
Microsoft never ceases to amaze me with anti consumer decisions.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Oh, I can help remotely… I just need you to open Windows App.
Which app?
Windows App.
I get that, I’n running Windows, but which app?
Windows App.
Look, are you being smart? I’m in Windows, say I click on the Start button, which app do I click on?
Windows App.
Allright you, let’s say the app is already running…
Sure.
And I press CTRL-ALT-DEL and open Task Manager.
OK.
WHAT’S THE NAME OF THE APP I WOULD SEE IN TASK MANAGER??!???
Windows App.
I’M ASKING YOU, ‘WHAT’S THE NAME OF THE APP’???!??!??
I’m telling you, ‘Windows App.’
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GratefullyGodless@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You did it so well, I started hearing it in their voices after a few lines. Well done.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
What’s the original? Sounds as fun as ‘Front fell off’