Honestly we are way past the point of any scientific reasoning. The public has voted that they are uninterested, and the government and all social media is about to be uninterested too.
Wobble Wobble
Submitted 3 months ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 months ago
A few people cared, fewer did anything about it. Most were more concerned with mass production of cheap shit.
Got a heat pump to replace the gas boiler, bike instead of car and replaced the concrete paved garden with what will hopefully become a wildflower meadow with shrubs on the edges. You can actually just stop buying a lot of the stuff that is causing these problems.
in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
God people like you make it sound so easy and then I tried it to find it’s actually even easier.
Comrade_Spood@slrpnk.net 3 months ago
The issue was never the average person. Corporations have always been the issue. Even if everyone on the planet tried to live as green as possible, the corporations would still cause too much damage for us to undo. The only way the average person could have made an impact was by attacking the corporations and their means of polluting the planet. That meant sabotaging their facilities. But the climate change movement was too focused on peaceful protest, and there has been evidence that points the blame for this on the corporations once again. For everyone, the issue wasn’t that they weren’t willing to live green enough (which is true that most people just didn’t bother, but it isn’t what caused the issue of climate change in the first place and wouldn’t have been the answer either), it was that they weren’t willing to risk their life and privileges to dismantle the system that caused it. The threat of climate change was not imminent or tangible enough for people to take real action.
KeenFlame@feddit.nu 3 months ago
No actually the people are interested and the megacorps still destroys the planet because they have no soul they worship only profit
Lemming6969@lemmy.world 3 months ago
They cannot survive without buyers. People as a statistical whole do not care when we’re talking about entire populations
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 3 months ago
No one ever really cared
That’s just not true. The problem is that the people who care were never the kind of people who’d come into power in our society.
BigBrainBrett2517@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Dayum. Well said. Though some people cared. We, the few, and Al Gore, for example. The great majority, no. It does appear that period is over, I agree. Perhaps this is how it has been for the last 4-5 decades. Maybe this hope’s death will be the last in our history.
parody@lemmings.world 3 months ago
:’(
Agent641@lemmy.world 3 months ago
It’s ok, some life will survive, but the pests will be eradicated.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
There could be more options to choose from if we enacted electoral reform and gave voters the freedom to vote outside the two party system with no spoiler effect.
AntiThesis@leminal.space 3 months ago
We’d also need campaign finance reform (revoke Citizen’s United for 1), get rid of insider trading, net neutrality, etc. which would all benefit each other and benefit from electoral reform
SoftTeeth@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
whoisearth@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
It’s not the rich call it what it is. Capital. When profits are impacted we will see change. This is why I continue to say no one is going to bat an eye when Florida gets swallowed by the ocean but when New York does? That’s when we will have a collective eye opening.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Capital
Poor word choice. It is more profitable to build renewables today. Oligarchist power to protect their existing assets, is not “rational capital allocation”, but is what we get from power to corrupt capital allocation.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
[Cries in Angeleno]
Geobloke@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Elon thinks he’ll make it mars with neuralink implant, Peter Thiel will run his fiefdom in new Zealand, the Orange God King will…
Xi Jin ping will continue doing communism with chinese characteristics and lean harder into Confucianism, the Europeans will return to fiefdom Feudalism
TheBat@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Sounds too complicated to be true. Obvious explanation is Jewish Space Laser!
Kanda@reddthat.com 3 months ago
Ha, you believe in space
Allero@lemmy.today 3 months ago
Palestinian*
in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
You need to convince them the Earth is a sphere first.
Agent641@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Then we need to convince them to build more big red arrows to keep the blue stuff up the top
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
Wouldn’t a big red circle have more power then smaller individual red arrows?
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Last time that much fresh water got dumped in the Atlantic ocean (when the glacier over north america melted) it resulted in an ice age over Europe… So… Good luck guys 👍
shasta@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Phew. Glad I’m not in Europe
SoJB@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
Western Europe in particular benefits from being warmer than its latitude would suggest due to Atlantic Ocean currents.
These currents are literally a coin toss away from breaking down, and it’s getting worse every year. Climate scientists are in unanimous agreement that the collapse is coming, and faster than a geologic timescale.
If (when) this happens, European countries will look more like Siberia than the Mediterranean.
Humanity is already dead. The time for drastic action was 30 years ago. We’re just talking corpses.
Artyom@lemm.ee 3 months ago
My thoughts exactly. As a non-European, it sounds like the appropriate response is to drive my Chevvy Suburban on 5 miles on the highway for 30 minutes to work in near standstill traffic.
MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Will it cool Australia? Its 45°C next week
pupbiru@aussie.zone 3 months ago
how dare you not let me enjoy the next few days of reasonable temperature in peaceful ignorance 😭
Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’m ok with colder temperatures. Maybe the tourists will fuck off. (I live in a tourist trap in the Arctic)
werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’ll distribute the leopards. If you’re Republican or voted for the pile of shit, just see one of the leopards. Tell them to go back where they came from, they’ll know what to do. They’re trained, it only takes a second. Pretty painless during… I assume. Oh it’s figurative speech? Never mind! I’ll get the pumas back. It was pumas right? Ew, I think this one already ate a face. Sorry sorry…
Emmie@lemm.ee 3 months ago
I guess the intent matters but that was kinda painful to read
Nfamwap@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Wat?
oftheair@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
It’s a riff on the face eating leopards party joke/meme/satire/sarcasm that goes something like “I can’t believe they ate our faces” says person who voted for the face eating leopards party. It basically means (in the original), you get what you vote for and shouldn’t be surprised when it happens.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 months ago
From that picture it looks like the weak jet stream is the problem. We just need to build a ton of wind farms across Canada to blow it harder so that it becomes more powerful. Easy.
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 3 months ago
If we want the wind farms to blow we’ll have to power them using fossil fuels of course
nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 3 months ago
And the pollution isn’t a problem, because the strong winds generated will dissipate it away.
Oh, and the entire system must be ai-based
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 2 months ago
frunch@lemmy.world 3 months ago
That’s science though, the people that don’t believe it will not be convinced by smart people sharing their discoveries.
BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I feel like you hit the nail on the head. It’s not that they don’t understand it. I don’t understand most of this, but I can try
There are people out there who just don’t believe and therefore will never try to understand
ulterno@programming.dev 3 months ago
Go instead with:
Humans helping the global warming demons is causing the polar ice cap gods to become weaker, who in turn are unable to contain the cold yin winds in the poles, causing them to move to your house.
dilroopgill@lemmy.world 3 months ago
my issue with posts like these is the ppl frequenting these sites already know this, its directed at the wrong audience
jrubal1462@mander.xyz 3 months ago
But remember when we found out CFC’s we’re damaging the ozone layer? Somehow scientists convinced everybody to switch to more expensive, less effective refrigerants, and then it all got better. Gosh, we didn’t know how good we had it back then.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I liked the image of the Titanic nosing down into the water, and people up on the stern end saying, “If we’re “sinking” how come we/re up so high?”
Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
I swear just a few years ago it was polar vortex this polar vortex that on the news everyday about the cold weather and I haven’t heard it once this year.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org 3 months ago
Weird, we’re experiencing the opposite in Europe.
protist@mander.xyz 3 months ago
That’s because the polar vortex slid off the Arctic onto North America, allowing warmer air to creep northward on your side of the globe. I remember in '21, while we had record cold in the southern US, Siberia was on fire.
Deme@sopuli.xyz 3 months ago
This. The meme is inaccurate in that the polar vortex is in fact currently unusually strong. It’s just unusually shaped placed. I hope the two following images show up correctly.
Strenght of the polar vortex. Blue line is this winter:
source: weatheriscool.com
Map showing the mean geopotential height and surface (2m) temperature anomalies for this week, as forecasted on Monday by ECMW:
Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Parts of Siberia are still on fire. Slava Ukraine
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 3 months ago
Will the increased snow cover at lower latitudes reduce warming? (I’m guessing probably yes, due to increased albedo. But, snow is also an insulator, and might be holding ground heat. I don’t know which effect will be greater.)
If it does reduce warming, will the amount be significant relative to anthropogenic climate change? (I’m guessing probably not.)
And just out of curiosity, did the Southern Hemisphere experience similar polar disturbances last winter, or in the past few years?
wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
The problem here is that the snow will melt at some point. The reason this is happening is because the sea ice that existed year-round until now is nearly gone each summer. The lack of consistent ice covering means that there is a greater amount of energy being absorbed by the ocean, perhaps not year-round, but that it’s happening so much more in the summer is sufficient to utterly outweigh any amount of temporary snowfall anywhere else on the globe.
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 3 months ago
How do I quantify this to my hypothetical parents who reject climate change, and to my hypothetical siblings who don’t know one way or another?
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
No. Well at least the first 2 weeks of the year are the warmest on record. A polar vortex just moves warmth elsewhere. It’s fair that a few days of snow cover is increased albedo for a few days, but it’s a drop in the bucket. A blanket of snow also keeps the ground warm.
drolex@sopuli.xyz 3 months ago
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Yuuup. A few years ago, when the entire United States was experiencing record lows, the Earth had an above average overall temperature. Imagine how hot everywhere other than the United States must have been, if the average was still higher despite our record lows.
drthunder@midwest.social 3 months ago
It’s just nature’s hernia
Raiderkev@lemmy.world 3 months ago
B b but it was hot in the summertime or something
4oreman@lemy.lol 3 months ago
i heard climate change is a hoax
Sanctus@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Good luck convincing the rubes that. Literally heard jokes about “global warming” today in the office. Had to say, well its climate change actually and wild shit means its not doing good.
bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Should have called it “climate instability” or “climate chaos” from the start.
474D@lemmy.world 3 months ago
It shouldn’t have been “save the planet”, it should have been “save the humans” because the planet will be here long after we’re gone
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 3 months ago
“war on summer” might be the only one that works
photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
Climate Crisis is my oreffered term. Gets the point across quite nicely.
shalafi@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Easy money.
“It’s cold as fuck because a monster bolus of hot air hit the arctic from the other side of the planet, sent a chunk of the polar vortex down here. Heat directly caused this. Did you have a problem with the word ‘bolus’, or perhaps understanding the Earth is spherical? Was ‘spherical’ too big a word? I can dumb this down if need be.”
Sanctus@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Yeah except I myself didnt know that directly either. I just knew that, no, this is because of climate change not in spite of it.
gwilikers@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
‘It’s not okay to be this stupid.’
EFrances@lemmy.eco.br 3 months ago
Speaking of which ~
5 Physics Equations Everyone Should Know
https://www.wired.com/story/5-physics-equations-everyone-should-know/
OpenStars@piefed.social 3 months ago
Please don't get yourself fired!? *Facts* themselves are political these days:-(.
damnedfurry@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Let them know that they changed the term to “climate change” so that stupid people would understand that the Earth getting hotter on average will make some places colder, because ice that used to be staying put, will now melt into water, which will flow into places where there wasn’t water before.
That’s about as dumbed down an explanation as is possible, I think, lol.