Clown emojis all around
He probably forgotto funnel millions of dollars to non-peofits and business adjacent to PEGI decisionmakers and their family members. Rookie mistake.
PEGI gives Balatro an 18+ rating for gambling imagery
Submitted 4 days ago by simple@lemm.ee to games@lemmy.world
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slaacaa@lemmy.world 4 days ago
caut_R@lemmy.world 4 days ago
They haven’t understood the game at all, I wonder if they even looked at it for more than two minutes
Run game > see playing cards and poker chips > close > PEGI 18
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 4 days ago
They’re not looking into blatant gambling in AAA titles, of course they won’t take a closer look into an indie game. They’re completely useless.
pachrist@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Ah, but there are also tarot cards, which is spooky Occult voodoo magic. Balatro backwards might spell “Satan is Lord” in some ancient druidic script.
EarMaster@lemmy.world 4 days ago
It can’t be that easy. PEGI says that games containing gambling (real money or not) are rated with PEGI 12 to 18. So there must be something else to the game that led to this rating.
9bananas@lemmy.world 3 days ago
or…you know… they’re just morons.
sukhmel@programming.dev 3 days ago
Maybe winning a game award while being solo developer studio, it feels like this to me
Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
Windows comes bundled with solitaire. How is it allowed in schools?
turbowafflz@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I think the current microsoft version of solitaire has microtransactions and ads so is actually significantly worse
RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
They added micro transactions and ads to fucking solitaire? How have I not heard about this till now…
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
Why, how, the fuck do you add microtransactions to fucking solitaire?!
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
You’re being funny, right? Tell me you’re just kidding
pixelscript@lemm.ee 4 days ago
I also don’t think it cones pre-installed anymore, you have to get it through Microsoft’s meme store that no one uses.
absquatulate@lemmy.world 4 days ago
MTX and ads? The. It’s clearly only 3+ and should ve allowed lol
A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Give the kids Linux! Build a generation of superusers!
warmaster@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Supertux depicts imagery of speeding, misdemeanor and felony. +18 Age rating for Torvalds and all of his derivatives.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Because you don’t place bets on your solitaire hand.
ech@lemm.ee 4 days ago
Maybe look into the game being discussed even a little before commenting on it.
derpgon@programming.dev 4 days ago
Fuck PEGI, their ratings always sucked and weren’t useful at all. Full blown swearing? 13+. One cigar through 500 hours of gameplay? Adults only. Never cared, never will.
rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 4 days ago
Violence and gore? 13+. Some boobs? Adults only.
Killing good, love bad.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 days ago
If anybody knows about love it’s rimjob_rainer.
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
And people pretend that only American ratings systems pull this kind of bullshit.
tlou3please@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I wish lawmakers had some balls on this subject. If there’s gambling, they should have to register as a gambling company and comply with all the other restrictions on gambling advertisements in each jurisdiction.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 days ago
The problem here is that Baltaro does not have gambling. It just uses cards as the basis for playing the game. Like Magic the Gathering or Inscryption.
Takumidesh@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Using chips is even a stretch honestly. There are some chip imagery here and there but otherwise ‘chips’ are just how points are called.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 days ago
They also base it on poker, yeah cards can transform each other but it’s still quite literally a poker game. This isn’t MTG. (Which is just real life loot boxes)
Arcka@midwest.social 4 days ago
Is there betting (such as buy-in / ante) in Balatro?
Is there in MtG?
umbraroze@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Hngh. Balatro already had a bunch of hassle on Switch eShop due to the PEGI ratings change.
Earlier, Nintendo somehow got a PEGI 12 rating for 51 Worldwide Games, which includes poker and blackjack. I wonder what they argued to avoid the 18 rating. “Sure, this compilation has poker and blackjack, but it’s not like we made it fun.” (It’s adequate but compared to Balatro it’s very much a non-frills experience.)
themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
“sure our game has gambling elements, but we’re Nintendo so shut the fuck up and give us a better rating because you’re a private company in the business of giving ratings”
RixMixed@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
I believe 51 Games came out right before the stricter PEGI policy. Same year at least. The whole thing is very silly.
Klnsfw@lemmynsfw.com 4 days ago
Balatro is a hard drug worse than heroin. We need to protect our kids from the bottomless pit of roguelite games
Wogi@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Thank God it’s ten dollars.
I almost downloaded it.
meliaesc@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Id you’ve ever spent money on a movie theatre ticket, you value your time at $7-$20 dollars an hour. This… is thousands of hours of entertainment.
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 4 days ago
Why is he still using Twitter? Does he want a bunch of Nazis replying to him?
bassomitron@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Because, unfortunately, millions of people still use it. If you’re selling a product, it’s in your best interest to have as much social media presence as possible.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
Nah. You either do the right thing and lose a little exposure or you stick with it and accept that you’re a part of Elon Musk’s political machine.
Blue Sky is a perfectly viable alternative. Hell half the podcast I listen to now rattle off their blue sky now instead of Twitter. The seas are shifting and there is plenty to gain over there. Leave Twitter. Blue Sky is not perfect by any stretch but it’s a hell of a lot better.
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 4 days ago
Well, if more presence is good, then surely he must have a Mastodon account, which should rightly be linked in his Twitter bio. Why didn’t OP just follow that link to find the post on Mastodon and post a Mastodon screenshot to help in the effort to make Twitter lose relevance? That’s what would happen if everyone was behaving sensibly.
Drag recognises that most people don’t behave sensibly, because they don’t think about the big issues. That’s why people need to be told that they’re making unwise choices.
Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 4 days ago
Twitter is by far the larger platform, small independent creators have to work to promote their game on every platform they can if they want to. The moral high ground of not using undesirable social media sites is nice, but isn’t fair to people who are partially dependent on those platforms to make a living.
damnedfurry@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Also, the simple fact is that there is no reason that any entity promoting their product has to choose any of these platforms over the other–you can just post to all of them, every single one that has enough users to be worth posting to.
Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I’ve seen several small creators say they get 10 times the engagement on Bluesky. It’s becoming clear that X’s numbers are mostly illusory at this point.
nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
Twitter can reach various community from variety of region, like English Asia Twitter.
Entire fediverse is still mostly Western community.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 days ago
Might as well go all in on that new rating.
Balatro 1.5 Patch Notes.
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All the Jokers now hang dong.
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Big naturals Queens are worth double.
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tino@lemmy.world 3 days ago
let’s just do like all parents buying the last Call of Duty to their 10-year-old and just don’t give a fuck about PEGI.
filcuk@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
The thing is, this is likely going to affect their sales to some degree.
As a parent, you may have age lock on your child’s account, or search games by rating, or just not know what this game is when asked to buy it but judging by rating.I don’t know how significant of an impact that is, but it’s unfair.
localhost443@discuss.tchncs.de 3 days ago
I think they’ve done them a favour in a way. If this was day one then it might hurt them but they’re past the point of like 90% of their sales I bet, and now pegi looking like incompetent dinosaurs is just a free second wave of social media exposure
moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 4 days ago
www.youtube.com/watch?v=46MQ1ZMZ-l4
3 and older game.
ArchRecord@lemm.ee 4 days ago
Gotta love how they saved the literal slot machine for a minute in to the video so it wouldn’t be too obvious.
Bosht@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Just right up front with the card pack gambling mechanic.
Juigi@lemm.ee 3 days ago
NBA 2K literally had slot machine in it. System is corrupt.
roguetrick@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Reminds me of that Australian law that was proposed to make anything with a relation to casino games Restricted 18 but merely mature for exploitative slot machine loot box mechanics.
HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 days ago
I haven’t seen Loot Boxes in a game in awhile, I kinda prefer those to FOMO…
I think the perfect system is you earn Loot Boxes by playing that can contain anything, but you can buy the specific things you want at any time, the boxes themselves are unlocked through gameplay.
Heroes of the Storm did this, and god I miss that game.
I wish DBD did it
v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
HOTS 2.0 did so much good, man. It’s a shame the game’s basically dead. Was a lot of fun to play with my brother
I realised that what brought me back to League was Wild Rift. Maybe of HOTS had a “mobile” adaptation, I’d come back. Just not much (if at all) a PC gamer nowadays
jagungal@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Sounds about right. I’d seen “slot machines” (we call em poker machines or “the pokies”) more times than I can remember before I was 18.
youstolemyname@lemmy.world 3 days ago
“the pokies”
You ever Google that?
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 days ago
Are all game rating systems just complete and utter garbage? Dare you to find a good one.
wavebeam@lemmy.world 3 days ago
The ESRB isn’t awful, it’s not perfect of course, but I think it’s pretty dang good for what it is.
Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 3 days ago
I mean the point of all rating systems in the US was fear of government regulation of content and having to fight that particular legal battle. It basically exists because moral busybodies were upset about Night Trap, Mortal Kombat and Doom.
Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Critiquing Doge on steam
mudmaniac@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I’m hopelessly addicted to gatcha. When I saw this I bought Balatro.
teslasaur@lemmy.world 3 days ago
When I was young I always wondered why the nhl games had a 16+ rating and Fifa had 3+. Figured both of them where ordinary sports.
Apparently fighting automatically shoots that nhl rating to the same level as GTA and balantro.
Viri4thus@feddit.org 4 days ago
I’m happy to lobby for the balatro dev once he posts on a federated media (real fed, not bluesky).
Personally, I don’t care if balatro is popular here, the pegi 18 rating will impact sales 0%. Also, FC24s gambling should be banned EU wide or the rating of the game should be upped to 18+. Better yet, we should use this Balatro slip up from PEGI to get FC24s rating to be revised to 18+
ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 4 days ago
Personally, I don’t care if balatro is popular here, the pegi 18 rating will impact sales 0%.
I don’t doubt that some weird ultra religious family will ban Balatro in their house because of that.
randon31415@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Why should we care what a talking horse pseudo-plinco game thinks should be the age rating of their competitors?
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
Wut? Pan European Game Information (PEGI) is the European equivalent of ESRB. Their ratings matter because they have an obvious bias against indies, which hurts their sales.
randon31415@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I was jokingly referring to PEGGLE
noli@lemm.ee 4 days ago
That’s the fun part, you don’t have to care. The first and only step is to just keep scrolling—better luck next time.
intensely_human@lemm.ee 4 days ago
It’s a good question
Rooty@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I still wonder why the hell is this game classified as a roguelike? Its poker mixed with MTG
bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 3 days ago
It has rouge features of building up a lot of utility in each run
kamiheku@sopuli.xyz 4 days ago
Wait, wasn’t this already an issue a while back and wasn’t that resolved?
simple@lemm.ee 4 days ago
It was banned by a few countries for looking like a gambling game which was a separate thing, now it’s just rated as an adult game by PEGI.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Loot boxes suck but the only thing separating this game from gambling is the use of real money. It’s literally a poker game.
static09@lemmy.world 4 days ago
In Balatro, the Ante is the boss’s health and chips are the amount of damage done to a boss. The poker hands are just attacks done to the boss’s health. They use poker terms because it’s inspired by card games, not because there’s gambling.
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Yahtzee uses “valid poker hands” and dice for scoring too. They sell that in toy stores.
index@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
I would give proprietary software 18+ rating too, nobody know what’s inside.
cliffracerflyyy@lemm.ee 4 days ago
Steer clear of clowns emojis, bub.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 days ago
this is starting to be horseshit. Every windows computer has a version of fucking solitare on it , there are other card based games that don’t get this treatment, and the lootboxes are actual gambling.
I thought at the start it was a type of beurocratical problem, but it’s been too long.
tb_@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Not entirely sure about the European PEGI, but the American ESRB is funded by the same companies that it regulates. It was created after the outcry about violent games and was the industry self-regulating to avoid the government getting more involved.
It is a lobby group for the industry, for better and in this case very much for worse.
I assume PEGI is little different.
saltesc@lemmy.world 4 days ago
PEGI and many other groups are private groups. They’re not an authority of any form. They’re not associated with government, public regulation, or public election. They’re a group of people that create their own standards outside of the ISO or any actual regulation representing the public.
Some countries do have actual public systems, but many just have these private groups that know best.
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 4 days ago
To clarify: the ESRB is the rating arm. The ESA that runs it? That’s the lobbying arm.
tlou3please@lemmy.world 4 days ago
In fairness, I would much rather that than governments directly controlling access, creating an additional form of direct censorship.
Not saying what we have now is great or anything though. I’m not exactly defending it.
the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
i got curious and looks like PEGI is somewhat similar at least. The ISFE is a self-regulating/co-regulating (w/e that means) body. There seem to be some kinda independent audits but… Looks like they don’t audit so good, if this article is evidence
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
did you just compare solitaire to gambling?
ech@lemm.ee 4 days ago
It’s as much related to gambling as Balatro is.
frezik@midwest.social 4 days ago
That would be the point, yes. Balatro has cards and chips, but chips are just there for keeping points. If Balatro is 18+ for gambling imagery, then so should Solitaire. That would be stupid, so Balatro shouldn’t get it, either.