I don't understand why underbaked borderline raw cookies are such a popular trend.

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• themeatbridge@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Three things happen during baking that change the flavor of a cookie.

  Maillard reaction, caramelization, and the melting of fats. There are more, but those are the three we’re going to talk about.

  The maillard reaction takes raw flour and turns it brown. It absorbs some of the sugar in the process, and creates a more complex, nutty flavor. Caramelization also browns some of the sugar, giving it a smoky, bitter flavor. They also give the cookie a firm or crispy texture.

  You also melt any fats, like butter, that are in the dough. Melted butter separates and spreads throughout the cookie.

  There’s also often an egg that helps build structure for the baked dough, and sometimes baking soda for fluffiness.

  This means uncooked dough is sweeter than a baked cookie. It has a soft, dense, and moist texture that disappears when fully baked. It’s butter and sugar held together with flour and egg, and it’s delicious.

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  • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I often prefer slightly undercooked baked goods.

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    • mysticpickle@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I like my cookies medium rare

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    • Nindelofocho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Same, its like a cookie dough flavored cookie

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  • Telorand@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Yay, food science!

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  • feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    flour and grease smear

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    • themeatbridge@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Salty, sweet, greasy flour and egg mush. Mmmmm

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• Sundial@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Same reason people love raw cookie dough. They just like the taste.

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  • nemonic187@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It’s a ridiculous business model.

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    • Sundial@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I mean, it clearly works if a lot of businesses do it.

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    • rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You’re a ridiculous business model.

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    • ShepherdPie@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Based on what measure?

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    • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Millions of dollars in yearly profit by the food industry that makes and sell raw cookie flavors disagree with your business acumen.

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    • Tyfud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Except for the fact that it makes a bunch of money you mean?

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    • riplin@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      We’ve been baking some cakes and cookies like that in the Netherlands for decades.

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    • Telorand@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Not if you make it yourself. Saves baking time, cost of purchasing store-bought cookie dough, and cost of electricity.

      Plus, it tastes better, because it doesn’t have to have weird shelf stabilizers.

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  • FreshLight@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I will never understand this.

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• heavy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  If you ordered a cookie and didn’t get what you want, that sucks and is indeed frustrating.

  However I don’t know what that has to do with anyone else. If someone wants to eat an almost raw cookie, or a too soft cookie or whatever, I don’t think that should bother you.

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  • Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I think what bothers him is that he had something that he liked and can no longer find. It may not be the case here, but companies (in the US) are en masse changing their recipes to be cheaper to manufacture and it’s affecting the end product.

    I’m the case if something like a cookie which can be made 1000 different ways by 1000 different companies, finding what you like took time, luck, or both. When they change the recipe on you, it’s not a simple, “just buy a different cookie, dummy.”. It’s a major undertaking. Sometimes you get lucky and this was the push that allowed you to discover a new, even better, favorite. More often than not though, it’s just another part of your day that got just a little bit shittier than it was yesterday.

    It’s annoying and I totally get it.

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    • heavy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I understand your take and mostly agree with you. I just want to emphasize I’m not trying to call anyone a dummy or anything, just that it’s OK to like what you like.

      If companies aren’t going to cater to you, yeah that’s annoying in most scenarios.

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• SonicBlue03@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Salmonella brings people together.

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  • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Salmonella is eliminated at 165F. Cookies get to around 190-205F when fully baked. So there’s at least 25 degrees Fahrenheit between completely safe from salmonella and fully baked cookies.

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  • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You can get eggs from Salmonella vaccinated chickens, it’s just not the norm in north America.

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    • athairmor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It’s in the flour not the eggs. Eating raw flour is riskier than eating raw eggs.

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• mysticpickle@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

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• Pulptastic@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  You have your preference, I have mine. An underdone cookie is gooey and melty but still brown around the edges, best of both worlds.

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• arefx@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I love these cookies personally. Soft cookies are so much better than hard crunchy ones.

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  • MycelialMass@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Ya but you can make soft cookies that are actually cooked

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  • irotsoma@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Soft cookies can be make by changing the recipe slightly and not risk salmonella poisoning or other infections.

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• Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I hate crumble cookies as well. Weak unsatisfying texture, and way too sweet before they even add all that syrup shit. Also they’re too big, I take like one bite and the sweetness is already unbearable.

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  • nemonic187@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Thank you. That’s the most insulting part. It’s a mediocre cookie at best.

    I don’t order these and I can’t talk shit about them cuz I trying to be a better partner, so I do what normal people do and go vent on the internets.

    I apologize to those who I have upset.

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    • Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Personally I think the most insulting part is the price.

      They make them big to try to justify it, but its still a bullshit high profit margin food.

      I think people just like them because they are very fresh. Most places just sell you some cookie made in a box a couple weeks ago in a factory so it is marginally better than that in theory.

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  • Dagrothus@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Not to mention the fact that a single cookie is nearly half your daily caloric needs

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    • jose1324@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That’s basically every cookie

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  • Bosht@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I’m of the opinion that Crumble is only successful due to marketing and viral advertising from insta models. Just to double down on what you stated already: Their cookies are shitty, crumby, over sweet garbage that tastes like something out of the bargain bin at Dollar General. Actually, no. I’ve had delicious cookies from Dollar General. Bargain bin at Walmart bakery.

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    • Ledivin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I’ve had delicious cookies from Dollar General. Bargain bin at Walmart bakery.

      At least you pointed out your tastes at the end 😂

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  • ArtVandelay@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Agreed, I will take my mom’s homemade plain oatmeal cookies over these any day

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• whereBeWaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Because they are yummy?

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• downhomechunk@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  This is a trend? Then why all of the sudden can’t I find any cookies in my local grocery stores that aren’t hard as tits? This has been my cookie preference for my whole life!!

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  • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You’re fondling the wrong tits

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    • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      There are no wrong tits, my friend.

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  • ShepherdPie@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    These look like Crumbl cookies which are sold in their own stores for ridiculous prices. One cookie can legitimately feed 4 people since they’re so rich (and delicious)

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  • HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You need some gingernuts.

    This isn’t a tits pun.

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• PenisDuckCuck9001@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Because the chocolate chip cookie recipe they put on the back of the chocolate chip bag is already the scientifically best possible recipe. It can no longer be improved. That’s why cookie influencers have to resort to stupid shit like this. All the good ideas have already been figured out.

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  • MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Reminds me of the idiots at a recent brewery that had an awful tasting Porter. When I complained, they mentioned using an IPA base. I literally laughed.

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• PappyWappy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Give it to me raw

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  • NotMaster@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    And wriggling!

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  • Kalkaline@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Ooh baby I like it raw

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  • DasAlbatross@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Now what you askin’ for? Just give it to me raw.

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  • ArtVandelay@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    What’s cookies, precious?

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  • altima_neo@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Bite the cookie, Im going in dry!

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  • ravhall@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Breed Cookies.

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• octopus_ink@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  This is how I’ve loved cookies for my entire life. I’m just happy they are easier to find now.

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• jewbacca117@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Because I will eat fistfuls of raw cookie dough. Raw eggs are safe where I’m at anyways.

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  • forgedchaos@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I think it’s more the risk from the raw flour than eggs.

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    • burgersc12@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It’s both in the US, uncooked eggs can give salmonella. But most placed that have “edible cookie dough” use non-raw flour and no eggs so you can actually eat the dough raw safely.

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    • nemonic187@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It’s the flour.

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  • nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You can make safe edible cookie dough pretty easily . The eggs aren’t the only issue, it’s the flour itself. If you bake it at like 275F for 30 mins in a sheet pan it’ll sterilize it. For edible cookie dough that won’t be baked you don’t even need eggs.

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    • jewbacca117@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Had no idea raw flour wasn’t safe. The store bought safe cookie dough always tastes like cardboard to me

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• Reverendender@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  The raw dough makes me slightly uncomfortable, so I’m entirely certain that I should violently impose my preferences on everyone who does not agree.

  ~/s~

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• celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  It’s a trend? How many homemade cookies from how many households do you eat?

  Cookie dough is tasty, idk.

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  • MetaCubed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    This is specifically talking about stores like crumbl cookies I think (appears to be what the cookie in the picture is). Very fancy, quite overpriced, pretty tasty, but kinda doughy in the center IMO.

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• Donkter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Mmmmmm… Borderline raw cookies.

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  • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Mmmmmm… Borderline raw.

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• Zip2@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  When you say trend, is it only on TikTok?

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  • nemonic187@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Crumbl cookies shops are popping up everywhere. Lines around the block.

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    • Zip2@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Ah, they’re not over here. That’s why I’ve beer heard of it.

      I wonder if this trend will catch on to not cooking anything else properly?

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• makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  One thing to consider is that delivery and takeout are significantly more popular than they were 4 years ago. Some of these chains either anticipate or encourage you to heat your cookies just before you eat them and halfway cooking them gives the best results. A place just down the road from me encourages 1 minute on high in the air fryer or 3 in a toaster oven before eating

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• Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I don’t think it’s the raw part that’s the trend so much as big cookies are, and big cookies tend to be less cooked in the center.

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• Faildini@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  First of all, that cookie looks absolutely baller. Secondly, damn you I’m going to get crumbl cookies now and fucking up my diet lol

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  • nemonic187@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    My work here is done!

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  • foenix@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Fuck Crumbl today.com/…/crumbl-cookies-violated-child-labor-l…

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    • SkyezOpen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Child labor is bad and all, but like… Children making cookies is whimsical and fun. It’s not like toiling in the mines (which they yearn for).

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• captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Hypothesis: Want chewy cookies. Try cookie recipe, they come out crunchy. Bake for less time. Cookies chewy now!

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• AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  When you say teens, is it among people not baking long enough? I love gooey cookies as well, but that looks raw.

  Recently I used store made cookie dough in a cast iron pan to make it more like a brownie, maybe like this. Surprise, it’s much thicker than a standard cookie so needs to be cooked longer than the directions say

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• AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I suppose it’s so you can take them home and cook them the way you like them.

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• Korne127@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  That looks so tasty

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• RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Warm and soft cookies are the best cookies

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• MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Must be a local thing.

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• HidingUnderHats@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Brownies too, I am not a fan.

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• marx2k@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Yet when my sourdough comes out this way, everyone acts like i shit my pants

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• GBU_28@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I’ve never heard of such chicanery I’m my life

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