I feel like this joke would have landed better 5, or maybe even 3 years ago. Every even remotely fancy restaurant I go into has jumped on the mocktail bandwagon and offers plenty of options for people avoiding alcohol.
Lots of times the restaurants won't even have milk
Submitted 11 months ago by STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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EatATaco@lemm.ee 11 months ago
criticon@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Of course they do. They sell them equally expensive without the expensive ingredients!
RGB3x3@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Basically water and a little juice, and they charge $8.
Floey@lemm.ee 11 months ago
You are paying for way more than the sum of the parts when you order a cocktail, I’m not really sure why you’d suddenly be concerned about doing so when it comes to a mocktail.
can@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Really? They’re kind a third of the price here.
roguetrick@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Price of drinks have very little relation to the price of alcohol.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
Even then, it’s not really accurate anyway. A cocktail is a bunch of ingredients mixes together. You can usually get them without the alcohol if you ask for it (obviously this doesn’t work for every drink). They list of cocktails is so large because there’s a lot of ways to combine a few ingredients to make different things. They don’t actually stock that many types of drinks or anything. They’re made on demends, and can usually be modified if you ask.
HopFlop@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
Cocktails without alcohol cost way too much for what they are. That would be like paying 15 bucks for a burger without meat.
Restaurants sometimes also have like dozens of types of beer, wine, etc. but the best non-alcoholic they can do is a water or a coca cola softdrink?
ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
If you can remove the alcohol from any “cocktail” and still have more than just flavored ice or a dirty glass, you were drinking slightly alcoholic mocktails the whole time.
Old Fashioned mocktail is a cherry on top of a large ice cube that you’ve used to bludgeon some sugar and an orange.
A Sazerac mocktail is akin to an empty glass someone just drink a sweet lemony drink from. You don’t get the lemony drink, just the dirty glass.
A margarita mocktail is salty lime flavored ice. This is basically a daquiri mocktail too, adding a strawberry seems popular.
A Manhattan mocktail is a sweetened cherry in an otherwise empty glass.
A mojito mocktail is a bit more substantial, minty sugar water with a hint of lime.
A mint julep mocktail, again just minty sugar water.
A white Russian mocktail is just a glass of cream over ice.
A mimosa mocktail is just a nearly empty glass of orange juice.
The non-alcoholic parts of a cocktail are rarely more than a quarter of the volume if they’re made properly. Most cocktails are a half oz of sugar water and a citrus flavor. The other 2/3 of the volume (not counting the ice) is alcohol. Just order a soda, soda water (with or without a garnish), tea, or my favorite a Topo Chico and lime.
Lenggo@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I was just in Dublin and saw Guinness 0.0 in a bunch of places. Things are definitely shifting if that can exist in Ireland.
PostingInPublic@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That’s great news! Occasionally I browse the NA beers and last week I thought how great it would be to be able to drink a Guinness! Maybe it arrives here sometime.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
At least in North America. I get the sense Europe still still thinks drinking is cool.
beardown@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Alcohol has been an essential facilitating element of human socialization in every human civilization since Mesopotamia
Which is cool
citrusface@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Who fucking drinks milk when they go to a restaurant - are you 5?
meowMix2525@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I do not wish to dine alongside whatever freak chooses to drink milk with their meal. Restaurants menus lacking milk as a drinking option is definitely a positive for me.
original_reader@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Why judge people over their choice of beverage?
Why can’t we all drink whatever we please without derogatory comments being made?
Seriously.
Agrivar@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Are you new to the internet?
kamenlady@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The oldest kind of low. It’s sad, but you spot a bunch of humans, you can be sure that they are already judging you.
beardown@lemm.ee 11 months ago
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Criticizing alcohol consumption = you sleep
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Criticizing milk consumption = real shit
Also, let people dislike things. If Criticism diminishes your own enjoyment of a thing then you don’t actually like that thing
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citrusface@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m gonna recognize that what I said came across way way more harsh than was intended, this was meant to be playful, as are my responses below - I seem to be learning that my tone and how I speak do not always translate well to being written - for this, I apologize. I do need to work on monitoring my snark levels.
I’d like to state - that you are more than welcome to drink or do what you want. I was attempting to razz op - not berate op… even though milk is straight up disgusting and I gag when people drink it by itself and I cannot understand why anyone would make that choice - it is their choice.
This is a me problem - not a them problem.
Have fun enjoying your gross animal juice everyone. I’ll just sit over here with my water.
STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Me? I can’t understand why this is such a weird thing to you people.
tal@lemmy.today 11 months ago
Might also depend on where you are. I understand that in Finland, it’s extremely common to drink milk all the time, whereas in East Asia, where adult lactose intolerance is the norm, adult milk consumption isn’t really a thing.
googles
en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_countries_by_milk_cons…
Yeah, Finland’s #1.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Because I’ve literally only known a single adult to opt into drinking milk and it was my 90 year old grandfather. Always thought it was super strange to like milk so much.
citrusface@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m just saying if I see anyone not eating from the kids menu drinking milk with a meal I’m going to judge you. I’m judging all of Finland.
nezbyte@lemmy.world 11 months ago
you’ve never had 3am Waffle House chocolate milk?
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
A McPoyle
Sorgan71@lemmy.world 11 months ago
milk is good
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
why would you not? milk taste good mmmm
especially if i’m at a less fancy restaurant and i’m ordering a dish with mashed potatoes and gravy, milk is 100% the appropriate beverage.
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
My homie, if you have never had the glory that is milk with a cheeseburger, you’re missing out.
Spaghetti? Bomb.
Burritos? Bomb
I can keep going, and even explain how and why various foods can be paired with milk and not only be as good as any other beverage, but can sometimes be better. It isn’t every food, but it works often enough to be worth trying.
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Villains
beardown@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Who fucking drinks milk when they go to a restaurant
Autism is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be … unnatural
Letstakealook@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Some this has to do with shelf life. Beverages containing alcohol have a long shelf life. A restaurant is not going to take losses on having 50 kinds of juice or whatever on hand. Another angle to this is that a lot of the drinks on the alcoholic menu are cocktails, so just combinations of other shit they have. Finally, what adult is just drinking milk? Have some water, it is good for you.
STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I just like having milk with every meal. I don’t like water and having dinner with a fizzy drink is just wrong.
EatATaco@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Is this coming from experience or are you just kind of guessing? There are plenty of cocktails that use non-shelf stable stuff that you can get anywhere. On top of that, the new movement towards providing non-alcoholic drinks on the menu just reuses these same ingredients in different ways.
VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 11 months ago
With having IBD I’m pretty much limited to water or milk. I’m absolutely going to drink milk when I can because I get fed up drinking water multiple times a day every fucking day.
IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The milk is for parents.
Socsa@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
To be fair, how many baby cows are even coming to these restaurants??
menemen@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Sir, thus is a steak house. We have hundreds of baby codes her every year.
broken_chatbot@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Should be more than baby grapes!
Not sure about other countries, but the Russian branch of Burger King had some uniquely bad sense of humor when it came to their ads. The most known as was a world play between “Don’t get too spicy” and “Don’t shit yourself”, but there was another ad of chicken nuggets with a little chick in the corner telling something like “6 nuggets for 99 rubles!”. I found it hilarious to see a chick advertising their mom.
Squirrel@thelemmy.club 11 months ago
What’s a milk drinker like you doing out here? Go home to your mother.
ICastFist@programming.dev 11 months ago
Sorry, my mom’s busy banging YO MAMMA!
…
Wait
woelkchen@lemmy.world 11 months ago
www.licor43.com/cocktails/blanco-43/
It’s great. Order it virgin for just milk.
tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
The worst is when mocktails cost as much as cocktails. Like a non alcoholic whiskey sour for $13
GreatTitEnthusiast@mander.xyz 11 months ago
What if I told you that you aren’t paying for the drinks but you’re renting the table/bar stool
horsey@lemm.ee 11 months ago
There’s the trend of restaurants having “mocktails”, which is cool, but they often charge for them based on their price for alcoholic beverages. I don’t really want a special lemonade for $14.
MacedWindow@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This is my favorite thread, just everyine arguing over milk
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
me: i’d like a glass of milk
them: sorry that’s only on the kids menu
me: you mean you can’t pour me a glass of milk unless i order from a special menu? what if i wanted coffee
them: oh then we can bring you milk
me: ok then i’ll order a coffee and just have the milk
them: sorry can’t do that.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Adults: Look at these tiktok kids eating tide pods!
Also adults: Waiter please pour me a glass of your finest toxin!
Coreidan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Alcohol gives me the shits. Milk gives me the shits. I’d rather just have water.
cumskin_genocide@lemm.ee 11 months ago
You don’t like water?
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 11 months ago
Milk is for babies. When you grow up you have to drink beer.
Arnold Schwarzenegger
asif@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
Lol, this is especially the case when it’s my turn to be the designated driver in the group 🤣
At least I’ll stay hydrated! Hydrohomies for life!
Boozilla@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Milk? Is this one of the McPoyles???
WhatIsThePointAnyway@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s about money. People are okay paying way higher margins for alcoholic drinks. They want you drinking alcohol for profits and the inebriating effect makes you more likely to spend loosely.
Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I think it’s Edmonton that just opened an alcohol free mocktail bar. That sounds amazing as a non drinker, you get to socialize with people and enjoy everything from milkshakes to rare sodas. Bring back soda shops!
Phegan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I stopped drinking about five years ago, and I often can find a mocktail or two that I like on most menus
sanguinepar@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Wouldn’t they have milk available for coffee? Unless they only offered cream, I guess.
Either way, silly that you couldn’t order some.
electric@lemmy.world 11 months ago
In my experience, it’s usually the same length or alcoholic ones get almost a page long. Though I did go to one where the non-alcoholic options consisted solely of sodas, shame.
01011@monero.town 11 months ago
The restaurants/hotels I eat at usually have green tea.
halferect@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Worked in restaurants for decades and never had a place not have milk available. It’s used in lots of recipes and a lot of the places had Lil cartons for kids, also every drink was available “virgin” if you wanted a cocktail without booze, or we would have apple juice, orange juice, etc. I have never seen a restaurant that does not have a wide selection of non alcoholic drinks. Do you want them to list Arnold Palmers or are you asking for every type of non alcoholic seltzers or non alcoholic ciders or non alcoholic beers? Most restaurants have one or two but the non drunks don’t drink 6 non alcoholic beers so it’s just not worth the cost and room of keeping a large amount of non alcoholic pre made drinks. So stop complaining and have a water like a real man
Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 11 months ago
And then?
JCreazy@midwest.social 11 months ago
And the alcohol lists never have prices which is a clear indication that they know they are asking too much money.
ShortFuse@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Of course they have milk! With vodka and some Kalua/Bailey’s!
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 11 months ago
and the options are sugar, sugar, sugar, sugar or water
Wogi@lemmy.world 11 months ago
And diet sugar
abbadon420@lemm.ee 11 months ago
’ll have a number 6 with extra dip. Big Smoke: I’ll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda. Make that diet, I’m trying to watch my weight.
Godort@lemm.ee 11 months ago
To be fair, the alcoholic menu us typically like this too. 95% of the menu is beer, wine, or vodka and and some kind of syrup.
alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
Even if it’s not on the menu, it’s not like you can’t get X neat or on the rocks.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 months ago
^ This. Diet Coke/Pepsi if you’re LUCKY. Otherwise, water.
NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 11 months ago
Do you people’s restaurants not serve iced tea?
STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I mean, I just annoyed that milk isn’t even an option in a lot of restaurants. It’s something so basic, like.
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 11 months ago
actually milk is slightly acidic
jk
joyjoy@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Sorry, the milk is for the kids’ menu. You can’t order from that.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Check the menu for items that require milk as an ingredient. You might be able to order a glass even if it isn’t on the menu.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Are you a cat?
boredtortoise@lemm.ee 11 months ago
To order for a kid? Or the sloppy steak?
electric@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’ve been in plenty where you could just order milk. 🤷
Though usually those are chain restaurants that prioritize breakfast, might be why.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Despite what Lucille Bluth believes, vodka doesn’t bad in a few days after opening bottle. Milk goes bad quickly.
Wogi@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If the restaurant has a kids menu, it also has milk.
tiramichu@lemm.ee 11 months ago
This annoys me SOOO much.
I don’t drink carbonated beverages, so when I go into a place and don’t want beer then my options are basically coffee or water.
Fine in the mornings, but I don’t want a coffee at 5PM. So I guess it’s just water then huh
kamenlady@lemmy.world 11 months ago
i’m a hydrohomie, i would be/am more than fine with that.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 months ago
Afaik, the only other options for beverages anywhere is coffee and tea. And depending where you get them, may as well just be sugar too.
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Well, coming from a tropical country to the US was a disappointment there. I used to be able to get a variety of freshly squeezed juices almost anywhere, and the only thing they serve around here are bottled OJ’s that barely taste like orange.
Lemming6969@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Mocktails, a whole new world
joyjoy@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Don’t forget fake sugar.
Agrivar@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I honestly hope you are making some attempt at a joke, and I’m just failing to get it…
cm0002@lemmy.world 11 months ago
What’s wrong with water? I usually just get water and ask for lemon slices to squeeze into it. Which is a game changer and they always have on hand because of the alcoholic drinks lmao