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  • terranoid@lemmy.cafe ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    There are better fake cheeses these days. It’s easier to give it up than it ever was. And tons of pizzerias now offer vegan cheese pizzas.

    But honestly giving up beef alone should be commended, just for environmental/climate reasons.

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    • hOrni@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I haven’t seen fake cheese that tastes good yet. A good tip is not to try to make vegan food taste like non vegan. Just enjoy the vegan foods as they are.

      PS I’m trying the whole “give up beef” thing plus “be vegan one day of the week”.

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      • stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        A good tip is not to try to make vegan food taste like non vegan. Just enjoy the vegan foods as they are.

        As a non vegan/vegetarian, I agree fully. By trying to replicate something else, the result often appears like a worse alternative.

        I enjoy plenty of vegetarian and vegan foods, but don’t try and tell me that a plant based burger tastes the same as a normal burger, that just ruins the experience.

        Play to your own strengths and don’t pretend to be something you are not, by doing that you reduce the stigma of vegan and vegetarian labels becoming associated with lower quality.

        The concept of being vegetarian one day a week sounds like a brilliant idea, not sure that I would go the entire way to vegan across a full day, but a few vegan meals in a week wouldn’t be so hard.

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      • rayf@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Exactly. I really dislike the taste of beef patty. But i tried a patty looking vegan product. It gave me the same bad taste.

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    • lookingforanALFpolycule@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      giving up beef alone should be commended, just for environmental/climate reasons.

      Yes, but the post is about veganism, which is the ethical principle that it’s wrong to exploit animals. Cows enslaved for milk are in most cases worse off than those enslaved for their flesh as they are repeatedly impregnated, have their children killed, and are still slaughtered at a fraction of their lifespan just like the flesh cows.

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    • ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’ve never cut beef out entirely but it is surprisingly easy to dramatically reduce how much one uses. Nearly everything that’s good with beef is also good with other meats. I also found doing meatless Mondays to be a great way to experiment with vegetarian/vegan dishes without feeling like I was missing out on anything and then I could take that knowledge into other days

      I think a big problem is a lot of people are not confident in their ability to cook. They maybe know how to make a couple of their favorite childhood dishes and a couple things they picked up along the way, maybe. It’s hard to replace a burger with a portabello if you don’t know how to critically approach cooking temps and times so it ends up awful, or trying to cook a passable ratatouille and not knowing how to use a knife or having any spices in the cupboard

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    • StaticFalconar@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      So I dont have to be a level 8 vegan to not be a POS?

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    • imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      We got a vegan Margherita for us 3hrn my vegan friend was visiting. Couldn’t notice a difference to a normal cheese pizza.

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  • MattW03@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    (GASGÛL) They were once men; healthy men. Then Tongue the Deceiver gave to them nine rounds of Cheese. Blinded by their hunger, they took them without question, one by one falling into gassness. Now they are slaves to his will. They are the Gasgûl: Ringwraiths, neither living nor dead. At all times they feel the presence of the Cheese, drawn to the power of the lactose. They will never stop farting.

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  • JelleWho@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Fun fact, cheese is not always vegetarian. It can (quite often) contain animal rennet (from the inside of a young cow stomage, the cow needs to die for this)

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    • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      i think most of the industry uses synthetic remnet.

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      • parlaptie@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That would be huge news if true but it doesn’t sound like you have a source

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      • JelleWho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        As a person who check all cheese in the supermarket for this. The current state (EU/NL) is almost 60%, 60% of the cheese in our supermarket is without murdering baby cows. Which I up from last year, and it has been trending up for a while.

        I have no clue how other countries are doing, my guess us worse. Some france people still label ‘Fish’ as ‘Vegan’

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  • ComfortableRaspberry@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I mean: being vegan in anything but cheese is also already something.

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    • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Just skipping a meal with meat where you would usually have one is already a big step for the individual.

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  • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Especially funny because while there are other things vegetarians will eat that vegans won’t (Other dairy, eggs), cheese is actually physically addictive because the same protein that makes it curdle breaks down through digestion into a substance that acts like dopamine. It really is the “one ring” of veganism and often the last / hardest thing to give up when one goes vegan.

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    • bl4ckp1xx13@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      wait so when i go to the fridge at 3am for cheese im basically literally eating happiness?

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  • TipRing@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Rennet makes this a much more complicated decision for vegetarians. Like, if I know that the cheese was made with bacteria-derived enzymes, then that’s cool, but it’s really hard to know and trusting random cheese is just like still eating beef sometimes, so even though I’m vegetarian and I end up being so picky about cheese that I hardly eat it anyway.

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    • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Spoiler: milk cows get murdered as well. A milk cow is productive for about 5 years, after which they usually get slaughtered for pet food. In that time, they need to have about 3 calves, to continue producing “good returns” amount of milk daily. Two of those calves are not needed to replace the cow, so they get - guess what? - slaughtered and processed to pet food.

      Stupid me grew up next to a milk farm and didn’t realize that until way later than I care to admit.

      Also, I still eat cheese (reduced amounts) and that’s a moral dilemma for me.

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    • RobotToaster@mander.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I had to look up what that is.

      If it’s any help, according to wiki 90% of cheese is made with artificial enzymes, because it’s cheaper.

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      • trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It depends a bit om where you are and what kind of cheese. For instance in the EU, Parmigiano Reggiano always has calf rennet, otherwise it’s not allowed to have that name. Nowadays a lot of cheeses in the Netherlands do specify it on the ingredients list though.

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  • arctanthrope@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It was hot when I first bit it, hot as a glede, and my mouth was scorched, so that I doubt if ever again I shall be free of the pain of it. Yet even as I write it is cooled, and it seemeth to shrink, though it loseth neither its beauty nor its shape… But for my part I will risk no hurt to this thing: of all the works of ranching the only fair. It is precious to me, though I buy it with great pain.

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