I’m not stuck in time. I’ve embraced dependability.
Where’s your 25 year old leather belt that has wear marks near every hole? Documenting your progression into middle age like tree rings.
Yes, I use Debian stable. How'd you know?
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Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Bluewing@lemmy.world 1 day ago
No 20 year old belt. But I do have a set of 20 year old suspenders or galluses if you prefer. I wear suspenders because I have a very large surgical scar from a ruptured appendix years ago. Belt are very irritating to wear.
ncc74656@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
What the fuck? Who’s been taking pictures of my stuff?
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
“I’m in this picture and it’s quite OK here.”
My car is a 20 year old shitbox, my bike gets new brake pads and a bit of random lubricant on the chain once a year and other “maintenance” only when parts fall off, and my stereo is a mix of hand me downs from my dad’s college days and some eBay home theatre stuff that got sold because it didn’t support the newest HDMI bullshit.
Oh, and of course it is a Thinkpad, thanks for asking.
Just the other day, a friend of mine running Arch tried to install something, which resulted in him having to do a full system update, including fixing several “that should not happen” s. Meanwhile, every few years I spend an evening update to the newest stable, and never had bigger issues than the color of some icon being unfamiliar.
0x0@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
What?!
You haven’t bowed to the gods of built-in obsolescence?! How dare you!?Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Man I always hear about these people who have to fix random that should not happen things. Yet I haven’t had that problem in a decade of using rolling distros.
While ever time I’ve ever had a fixed release cycle distro update it implodes. What black magic fuckery is this.
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
I guess it depends on how much you can abuse or ignore it. Debian works just fine if you put it in a locker for 3 years and then try to update. With gentoo, if you didn’t update for a week, you might as well reinstall :)
Arch is somehow in the middle, I had an arch VM that never had any problems except that certificate issue despite not getting many updates.
xavier666@lemmy.umucat.day 2 days ago
Different colored icon? Literally unusable! Time to distro hop
/jk
ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I feel like when humble-bragging Thinkpad it must be one of the models that became a Linux enthusiast meme.
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Nah, L390 Yoga. I wanted touch because i thought I’d use it, but it ended up in a docking station most of the time anyway. Upgraded RAM and SSD, battery still hold “a few hours” despite being 7+ years old.
norkoris@lemmy.today 3 days ago
The Debian Stable lifestyle is appealing to me more and more every day now
truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 3 days ago
I do use Debian stable and I do still use a calculator like that and a wallet I repaired many times.
If they’re still working just fine, why replace them?
spicytuna62@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Here’s my actual wallet.
I bought it for $25 in 2009 and have carried it every day since. The fabric in the cash pocket has separated from the leather and the plastic window for my photo ID is missing. My wife told me I should buy a new one since this one’s so worn. I said, “Why? It still works perfectly.” Not a knock against her. We just have different ideas about the meaning of durability.
Malyca@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
This was my husband. He only bought a new one because he wanted one of the metal ones that just hold cards, that you can stick on the back of your phone. I spent 15 years with him before that, and he’d had the wallet at least 7 years when we met.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 2 days ago
“Genuine fossil classic” just makes it better
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Similar, but I’ve had mine since 1996. It’s Kenneth Cole brand. It’s amazing how well it’s held up.
I looked at replacing it a few years ago, but couldn’t find one with the same features.
acchariya@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I drive an older model manual transmission acura and use a 1980s style programmable thermostat with no smart features or connectivity. Use Debian stable with KDE. Checks out
KaRunChiy@fedia.io 3 days ago
I use arch linux and drive a 2001 sebring i found abandoned. My internet is a hotspot and i have 3 powerstrips hooked into a single outlet
recursivethinking@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Sir, please step away from the everything.
halezinflames@lemmus.org 2 days ago
Older doesn’t necessarily mean worse. Dependability is important for sure.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
It also doesn’t necessarily mean more dependable. There definitely is a fallacy problem that many fall into where they believe old = reliable.
ericwdhs@discuss.online 1 day ago
That’s true, but if you have a 20-year-old item that is still working and a different 5-year-old item that is still working and you know nothing else about them, the statistics do work out that the former will likely maintain its working condition longer. It’s obviously not a hard rule, but as a rule of thumb, it exists for a reason.
halezinflames@lemmus.org 2 days ago
Well if it is reliable, “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” is a good way of looking at it too. This is fair though!
AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
I’m in this image and I feel good about it, the manual transmission, the PS2 (although I did pick up a ps5 recently to play gta 6), the analogue watch, the leather wallet, I don’t have a discman, but I do have an MP3 player, the seperate audio system with a turnable, the zippo lighter, and a classic scientific calculator. All things I use frequently.
And yes I use Debian stable
noxypaws@pawb.social 1 day ago
Casio for calculator but Hamilton for watch??
I’d expect a Debian fanatic to have a Casio watch as well!
BartyDeCanter@piefed.social 3 days ago
I’m in this picture and quite frankly it’s a great place to be. Everything either just works, I know how to fix it, or I at least know what is broken and not worth fixing.
Though that is a terrible style of air pressure gauge. Get a good dial one with the tube.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Or the tutorial written for Ubuntu users works without having to think about different package managers
cannedtuna@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Dude, that GE clock is the best, that watch is also solid af. Plus look at all those nice old receivers, I bet they sound great.
Also what’s the hate on the tire gauge? Does another kind exist other than a slide stick? Does another fancier kind even need to exist?
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Stick pressure gauges are bad.
Bourdon pressure gauges are the only pressure gauge to get. (Not bourdon brand but one that uses what is known as a bourdon tube).
They are analogue AND reliable over the long term.
spicytuna62@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Gonna have to check these out. Unfortunately for my wife, now I have a reason to go to the hardware store lol
Malyca@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
That’s cool looking, I’ll look into those
dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 2 days ago
Yeah these are great. I’ve had one for years now without issue and they’re accurate.
OwOarchist@pawb.social 3 days ago
Also what’s the hate on the tire gauge? Does another kind exist other than a slide stick? Does another fancier kind even need to exist?
Allow me to present this abomination:
cannedtuna@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Why make a tire pressure gauge that needs batteries? Oh just what I want, to pull my bulky ass tire gauge out of my glove compartment and find it’s got corroded dead ass batteries cause it’s been sitting in there for a year untouched.
jownz@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The battery died in mine.
pHr34kY@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I have one of those in my glovebox. I think I bought it in 2003. My 2003 manual jap econobox has no need for TPMS. If a tyre is 30kPa too low, you can feel it.
Gerudo@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
Found a compact dial gauge version and it’s so much better than those stupid sticks.
bus_factor@lemmy.world 3 days ago
They exist with a round dial as well. Personally I don’t measure my tire pressure, ever. My car will tell me if one is low, and I’d go to a gas station to fill them to spec. Although lately I got a little compressor which goes in the cigarette lighter, which just lets you enter the desired pressure. I use that for the car, bikes, footballs and whatever else needs to be pumped to a given pressure.
the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
Pic needs a Glock 19
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
I have damn near everything in this photo except it’s a 91 Honda accord and I don’t have a PS2, I have an original Wii. I feel suspiciously called out.
spicytuna62@lemmy.world 3 days ago
My real car is a 97 Honda Prelude, and yes, it is a manual. When my 2012 Civic had a dead starter motor, that Prelude was my daily driver for six months until the weather cooled off enough to actually do the job.
The Prelude is definitely more of a project/weekend car. Every car guy knows you never project your daily, but I feel pretty comfy dailying my project lol
mursejoy@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
Prelude is a sick car. Always fond of them and CRXs. 90s Honda/Nissan,Toyota were something else man.
RIP couch level comfort.
anime_ted@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I feel targeted by this. Also how did you get into my house?
mbp@slrpnk.net 3 days ago
Y’all seem cool as hell, you should leave your basement so we can meet sometime.
Zink@programming.dev 3 days ago
I feel at home in this photo. My beard has turned 1% more gray this blessed night.
The key differences I have come from the fact that I am drawn to the “chief engineer turned goose farmer” future even more than the “greybeard recluse inventor” one. I
get to use a Debian machine at work all day anyway, plus of course the home PC runs it. With KDE there is nothing that feels old about it unless I check when the kernel was released.
My car isn’t THAT old but it’s on its way. I drive an almost 15 year old mazda3, which we have owned for all of those years. I just did my biggest-yet DIY maintenance/repair when I had to replace some disintegrated-yet-seized brake hoses in addition to pads and rotors and flushing the fluid. In my driveway, no garage. I got a bunch of new wrenches and vise grips!
The mazda is an automatic since we originally bought it for my wife. But it was right after the company debuted the Skyactiv stuff. Among other things like great fuel efficiency, that means the transmission locks up the torque converter as often as possible. And it has manual shift mode. So when you’re in gear holding some mid-range RPM, you do still feel that direct powertrain connection between engine and wheels.
Part of me is casually keeping tabs on the “fun” new car models out there that still offer a manual transmission or DCT. But another part of me is constantly noting to self how I already have a nearly perfect old familiar car that is fun and practical for the whole family. It has low mileage for the age and a good maintenance history. And it is $FREE versus $30,000+.
Aside from the car difference, I have cast off a bunch of little devices and accessories thanks to my conscious efforts to be less connected and more about experiencing life at my natural pace. I no longer wear a watch, ever, even though I definitely have the chunky leather wallet. Also no glowing visible clocks in the bedroom or family room. And no big stereo because 95% of my music listening is via headphones at work or working outside in my yard.
spicytuna62@lemmy.world 3 days ago
My man.
Most of my listening is also done over headphones, and I admit that my library is all in mp3 format. As much as I love optical media, it’s because I can rip my discs to my machine in whatever quality and format I want, then never have to handle them again unless all my copies are deleted. This preserves the discs.
I have a portable CD player from, and I use the term portalble liberally because while it can accept six AA batteries for a power source, it also has no anti-skip because it was made in 1991.
But what I love about this thing is how much of an occasion it makes the listening experience. Handling the discs carefully so as not to smudge or scratch them. Waiting for it to spin up and start playing. And just sitting there and intentionally listening to it. It’s kind of magical. Even more so with a decent set of cans and a dark room.
Mazda3 is an excellent car to have. My brother used to have an '08 Mazda3 hatch until it was totaled by a drunk driver. He wasn’t in the car. It was parked on the side of the road. Really cool car, and the 2.3 is probably one of the most underrated engines out there. They really pack a punch.
I don’t necessarily have a thing against automatics. My beef is more with the fact that manuals aren’t really an option anymore. I said in another comment that my real cars are a '97 Honda Prelude and a '12 Civic. I did daily the Prelude for six months when the starter died in my Civic, but the Prelude is really only a weekend car because it does maybe 25 mpg and takes premium fuel. My Civic does 40 without trying and E10 costs about $1.40 less per gallon where I am. My Civic is an auto, and I’m fine with it. Automatic just feels boring to me. I really enjoy having something to do with all four limbs at once.
If I ever feel like dropping money on a newer car, I’ve always loved the idea of a manual midsize sedan. I know the Accord could be had with a six speed manual all the way until like 2021, which is bonkers to me since Toyota stopped making the manual Camry in 2006. I think my only other option in this very specific segment is a BMW 3-series, and I just can’t picture myself in a Bimmer.
Anything brakes is always so stressful. If anything else fails, you can probably still get the 3,000 pound metal death box to stop. But if your BRAKES fail? Yeah, just pull the hand brake and try not to cry too much. I basically rebuilt the rear brakes on my Civic last month. It has 147,000 miles on it and was running on original brake shoes. And because I’d waited until they started grinding, the drums couldn’t be resurfaced, either. So I went all in and got new hardware and cylinders, too. I’d so much rather do disc brakes than drum brakes. Those springs are such a pain, and Honda made them really weird. Not to mention my hammer was entirely too small for the job of literally beating the brakes off the thing lol 2012 was the last year the Civic LX had drum brakes of any kind. I’m fine with drums. They really do last forever if you’re not a monster on the brake pedal. I’m just glad I won’t be doing brake shoes again for at least another 7-10 years.
My wife points out every new gray hair in my beard. One day, there will be so many new ones at once that she’ll have to stop counting. For now, it’s really cute. I love it.
Zink@programming.dev 1 day ago
MY man!
First, I appreciate that your comment is even longer than mine AND came with the multimedia.
I totally get what you mean about it being an occasion to listen to music with the old equipment. I had at least one portable CD player with no anti-skip. So not only can I feel some of that experience just through nostalgia, but then I start thinking about nerdy little kid me getting a player with anti-skip. It had a clear window on the lid, so I could see how the disc spun at 2x speed for while when starting a song or causing skips. I started to understand how it was filling a buffer and must have had a bit of extra RAM in there. And now middle aged me monitors and controls engine RPM all the time in my automatic car, lol.
On listening to MP3s, I see no issue there, but I have always been more of a videophile and less of an audiophile. However, I have also transitioned away from locally stored music, to just streaming from my Jellyfin server. Thanks to that practically eliminating audio size concerns, I just use FLACs of everything.
As high tech as that sounds, the server capacity also helps me discover music in the old-fashioned & natural way rather than algorithmically. When I realize I am missing some song I want, I will add as much of that band’s entire discography as I have available. Then it’s just a question of whether I listen to albums or random songs. Any songs that noticeably stroke my neurons the right way gets added to my single playlist of bangers, for when I don’t want random or albums.
Finally, a manual transmission midsize sedan can still be had in a few non-BMW forms. I have actually been researching current fun-transmission new cars even though I don’t plan to buy anything any time soon. Most of them will be performance oriented models that recommend premium, but most seem to be able to run regular these days with just reduced max hp. So just going off memory for now:
Civic Si - This might be your best bet. High fuel economy, great 6-speed, well equipped, well priced. I think it’s in the Car & Driver top 10, with a 10/10 score, alongside the Type R which is like $20K more.
Mazda3 hatchback - ok it’s not a sedan, but for some reason you can get a specific premium trim level of the hatchback with a really good 6-speed. It’s also a FWD 2.5L that recommends regular unleaded.
Elantra N: 6-speed manual and 8-speed DCT available. Seems like an extremely fun performance bargain. Lots of tech and adjustability, including fancy LSD.
WRX: 6-speed AND full time AWD. I had one long ago and loved it. It isn’t regarded as being quite as aggressive and refined as the Si and the N these days I think, but it’s definitely a great all around vehicle and you aren’t stuck with FWD if that matters to you.
Bluewing@lemmy.world 1 day ago
As a person old enough to have driven manuals from 3 on the tree to 4 and 5 speeds, to 4x2, 5x2, 5x3 and 5x4 double sticks, 10 speeds and 13 speeds. Rowing your own gears is highly over rated. And even worse in stop and go driving.
CalypsoGirl@lemmy.today 2 days ago
Is that tire pressure gauge archaic? It’s handy & effective & requires no electricity. I keep one in my glove box.
BillMurray@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
No shit, do people not check their tire pressure? WTF?
Bluewing@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Many cars these days have built in tire pressure monitors and will light your dash with a warning light when it is low. Both my vehicles do that. I still carry a tire gauge in my glove box though.
beejboytyson@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Nah air pumps at the store usually come with them.
CalypsoGirl@lemmy.today 1 day ago
I choose to believe that you’re the authentic Bill Murray from OG Ghostbusters.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
If somebody can still fully operate with this stuff, I’m jealous.
It means they’ve figured it out and they’re immune to almost all of the bullshit.
There’s bound to be some bridge, somewhere, but even then, that only needs to be minimal. These people are heroes and have a special power.
xavier666@lemmy.umucat.day 3 days ago
I am in this picture and I feel awesome
Shifted to Debian from Ubuntu a few weeks back for my core infra. It could be a placebo but Debian feels way more snappy.
0x0@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Debian feels way more snappy.
I see what you did there.
No advertisements in the CLI, you say?
Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Please regale me with more debian factoids. The only linux distro ive ever stuck with was ubuntu but ive been on it steadily for some time now. Your comment was the first time ive considered changing distro.
xavier666@lemmy.umucat.day 2 days ago
I have spent very less time on Debian compared to others on this thread. So I’m not very qualified to speak about this topic.
My silly observations
- No snap/Canonical nonsense. I don’t hate snap, but it’s not compatible with my workflow.
- Overall lesser number of processes OOTB compared to Ubuntu. So I can quickly find out if there is a stray process running via htop.
- Terminal operation/reboot seems way faster
- Slower update frequency, so no random feature changes
- Less RAM/disk requirement (Important in the post AI world)
Some quirks when coming from Ubuntu
- No sudo! You either have to install sudo/sudo-rs/doas. I went with doas
- Debian manages network differently (Not netplan)
- Lack of support from Nvidia if you work with AI. I don’t, so not a problem.
If you need to deploy a server with mainly docker workloads, just go with Debian. I have one last remaining Ubuntu server which I’ll replace one day.
tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
after all the snap package nonsense ubuntu is basically just ‘debian but worse and less stable’ Definitely check out debian. Imo the golden years of ubuntu are well done and buried at this point. Tho, i will never forget installing the first beta of the unity desktop on my school laptop way back when, this is all said with love
Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 3 days ago
The Toyota XV10 Camry is the best car ever produced and that’s a hill I’m willing to die on.
WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
Name something I can’t do with Debian stable.
MarcomachtKuchen@feddit.org 3 days ago
Get laid?
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
I’m sure it could run VRchat lol
Randelung@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Run my camera driver. ISP4 is in kernel 7.2 I think. ;_;
Oh well, it’s a matter of time.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Pretty much any experimental Nvidia feature. By the time you have it working you aren’t on debian anymore and have basically butchered the distro beyond reasoning.
xavier666@lemmy.umucat.day 3 days ago
Run AI models with the latest Nvidia drivers.
But, that’s a small sacrifice for me. I ain’t giving up Debian for that.
rbos@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
Well… use certbot’s new dns persistence mode. That may be a few years before it gets in. May be in backports.
0x0@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
It’s a '96 manual transmission for sure, wallet’s maybe 10yo, never cared for consoles and have some manuals laying around.
I’ve replaced some stuff with my smartphone though and prefer Devuan, Slackware and Gentoo. Of course Thinkpads.CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 2 days ago
I feel called out
Bluewing@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Hey, I’ve got the Vostok “Scuba Dude” Amphibia self winder dive watch and the Komandirskie army version manual wind. Rugged and reliable after all these years!
Thrydwulf@lemmy.today 3 days ago
As I grow older, I began relating to this list more and more. But as one who is born closer to the 2000’s and raised by a sheltered, buys-only-brand-names parent; I find myself paralyzed when attempting to buy from used goods vendors that these things are only found at these days.
flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Hey, those old school Craftsman ratchets and wrenches last forever. My dad bought a set in the 70s, he died in 2023 and they were one of the things I kept in the aftermath and they are way better than the ones I have bought for myself over the years that are much newer.
My advice to anyone these days is if you want it to last get the version of that thing that was being sold in the 1950s-1970s. Maybe the 80’s/90’s depending on what it is. If it was made in the last 20 years it is almost always made to be thrown away in a decade or less.
LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Wait. Are you my Dad?
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 days ago
It’s missing daily medication for old age related illnesses and glasses.
I’m in this picture based on vibes, but don’t possess the goods listed there.
blaggle42@lemmy.today 2 days ago
Omg, I loved that calculator.
nickiwest@lemmy.world 2 days ago
It saw me through five years of math classes. I think I ultimately stored it improperly and something heavy broke the display.
It deserved better.
idealotus@lemmy.world 3 days ago
No Nokia 3310?
pHr34kY@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I tick most of these boxes and still have a rotary landline phone in service.
TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 3 days ago
Judging by this posi I should probably start using Debian stable
muzzle@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
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rozodru@piefed.world 3 days ago
honestly man…it’s not a bad decision. I for a long time didn’t give Debian the time of day. Now i’m daily driving OpenBSD and I use a Debian VM on it for certain dev work (mainly builds and deploys) and then on my second NVME I first went with Bazzite to do gaming but then I changed my mind and was like “meh, debian” and it’s solid. it’s good. it stays out of my way for what I want to do on it which isn’t much.
It’s a decent distro that’s just kinda there and you don’t have to worry about it.
Dadifer@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Except the NVIDIA drivers are 40 versions behind and break every time the kernel updates.
pmk@piefed.ca 3 days ago
Wait, openbsd can run debian vms?