California just passed a law forcing mandatory DRM in 3D printers

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• stankmut@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  You’d think with a title that says “California just passed a law”, that it would actually be about California passing a law. It still has to go through the senate and then get signed by the governor.

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• DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  They’re using weapon printing as the wedge, but this is really about protecting all manufacturers.

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  • ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is the thing imo. Come in under “ban ghost guns” but 10 years from now you try to print a new battery door for your remote and get blocked because the design is the property of Samsung.

    Fuck Bambu and co, I’ll keep my voron around as long as humanly possible

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    • LilBobbyTables@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s more about protecting companies like Disney, Nintendo, etc replacement parts. 3D printing is rife with copyright infringement, and companies like those would absolutely love a way to block their IP from being printed, or to be able to sue those who do it.

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• LilBobbyTables@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’d love to know how they expect printer manufacturers to do this, given all they do is read gcode. Do the legislation makers even know what a slicer is?

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  • ramenshaman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I went to a CA committee hearing (and I got to meet Louis Rossmann in the process) and I guarantee you the people supporting this bill and the committee voting on it generally have no idea what the fuck they’re talking about.

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  • Whitebrow@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Of course they know what a slicer is. Most of these people existed long before pre-cut loaves were sold at the stores.

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  • enix@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Absolutely fuckin not

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• Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Good luck with that… 3D printers are not complicated and you could build one yourself if you wanted to.

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  • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Have a friend with one print you one.

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• DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Even more pointless than DRM on movies.

  all3dp.com/…/how-to-build-a-3d-printer-from-a-kit…

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  • pivot_root@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Don’t worry. It won’t be long before possession of an unregistered 3D printer becomes a crime, too.

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    • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I thought this bill did that, but it looks like they crossed out the consumer circumvention clauses.

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That seems like a nightmare to set up

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    • ricecake@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It more like mocking car registration because every neighborhood has a few people who can build you a car from scratch in a day, the city already has several thousand car factories that don’t require registration, there’s no mechanism to enforce registration, and the cost of building a new car is a few hundred dollars. The motivation for requiring registration is also to stop people from driving full speed into fast food restaurants is custom built murder buggys. Yeah, you don’t want people to do that but it’s not like it really happens all that often.

      Building a 3d printer from a kit is different from building one from scratch. It’s basically screwing parts together and plugging colored wires into matching slots.

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    • saltesc@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Same. Unfortunately I wasn’t born blessed with those levels of autism. I see a complex project that’d be awesome for my hobby and I change hobbies.

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• Godort@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  How would this even be enforced?

  Like, it seems like it would be a trivial process to just install a firmware package without the blocks.

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  • sharkteethsandwich@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s probably just an extra charge they can throw at you if your house ever gets searched. Fuck hobby enthusiasts I guess

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    • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Not true (yet). Could be later, but for now, there’s no crime for circumvention.

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    • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And small businesses.

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  • Bahnd@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    From Lewis Rossmans bit on this from this morning, an internet connection and third party AI scanning tools.

    So its a whole bucket of “fuck that noise”.

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  • False@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Digital signatures and closed firmware.

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  • grue@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It can’t. They want to destroy 3D printers entirely.

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  • dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    it’s enforced by stopping most people from trying to get into making 3d printer software. Imagine if california made browser drm required: no more open source browsers

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    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Don’t give them ideas

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• DaddleDew@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  They’ve just banned the sale of all 3D printers in California. Even if you lock down the firmware it’s impossible for an algorithm to tell what can be used as a gun part.

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  • ilinamorato@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Any such algorithm would be patched out of a jailbroken version of the firmware in minutes. 3D printers are already running on FOSS, so this is worse than useless. Anyone who wants to print a working gun will be able to do so trivially.

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    • chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      3D printers are already running on FOSS

      That’s what the bill is designed to stop.

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• bagsy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Are we even fucking free any more?

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  • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Image

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• electric_nan@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  California also wants firearms manufacturers to develop a system that stamps your serial number on bullet casings.

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  • CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Lmfao, as if machining gun parts isn’t alreafy so easy it’s problematic.

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  • chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And the primer. They want the firing pin to stamp the serial.

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    • electric_nan@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Haha yeah. I think they know it isn’t possible. Just trying to ban people from having guns one way or another. Disarm the cops and the other Nazis and then we can talk about mine.

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• apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Fuck this country.

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• ramenshaman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Just configured my router to block my new printer. Looking up how to set up Linux to block my slicer. Fuck this sucks.

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  • trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world ⁨35⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Airgapping is the way

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• ceenote@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Has a 3d printed gun been used in a crime? Ever?

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  • snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Ask Luigi Mangione

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    • obvs@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Did Luigi Mangione do anything wrong?

      News to me.

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    • pivot_root@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Very good point. Planting evidence of a crime is itself a crime. /joke

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  • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No because it isn’t possible to make a working gun with a 3D printer

    However it is possible to make a gun with a few supplies from a hardware store

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  • FurryMemesAccount@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Brian Thompson ?

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• thejml@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Soooooooo, go buy a new printer now is what I’m hearing.

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• ohulancutash@feddit.uk ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Its not like americans can be trusted not to make their own bang sticks so fair enough.

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  • arctanthrope@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    not much more difficult to make a much more effective gun out of stock metal (or so I’ve heard), but they don’t mandate government surveillance on the personal property of every person who owns a welding torch

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    • graycube@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Although metal working requires skill, but downloading and 3d printing stuff not so much.

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Getting a proper industrially manufactured firearm has never been easier.

    The paranoia around Ghost Guns is more an expression of the gun regulation movement’s impotence.

    If you want a gun in this country, and you’ve got more than a couple hundred dollars, you can get one.

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