Submitted 2 weeks ago by possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
So much for the constitution
The bill requires manufacturers to embed a “firearm blueprint detection algorithm” in every model by July 2028.
by July 2028?? Welp that gives DIY gun-making enthisiasts plenty of time & advance notice to crank out as many guns possible 🤦🏼♀️
Not that is matters as this law has zero impact on guns
What? This entire issue is about guns 🤔
Show me your not suggesting update the firmware on that already purchased and perfectly functional 3D printer.
This feels idiotic?
So now you can be a cyberpunk black market tech peddler for real?
Let’s get rid of, or use less, plastic! No, says coffee pods and 3d printers.
While I get what your saying, I do think 3D printers reduce waste as they allow people to fix there own stuff
Yup, plastic parts on headset broke. Could not wear it in a useable manner anymore, taping did not hold.
Printed replacement parts (which I could not buy anywhere), still using it today. Good as new.
3D printing is a blessing if you’re not just using it to print flex-dragons.
It wont be about the guns. Its about control.
Yes, stopping gun crime is how they sell it; protecting corporate profits by forbidding home-made repairs is how they will use it.
It’s more that identifying a gun from a million other vaguely gun-like shapes, as well as completely non-gunlike shapes that are in fact guns… It’s an insane question to expect any software to solve, even an AI with a whole datacenter devoted to this one problem wouldn’t even begin to approach solving it.
Pop tarts may need to be banned
With that logic you should have mandatory reporting of anyone entering a hardware store. Neither of these is a real problem.
You can’t 100% 3D print a working gun that won’t be as dangerous to the user as it is to the target.
You still need some actual metal gun parts to make it do gun things properly.
No, most people realize that it’s a nonsense argument based off a couple action movies. Same reason they banned butterfly knives and nunchucks in many states despite the fact that you can have any other knife and say a lock in a sock. It’s hype based pearl clutching. Why sneak a pos plastic gun through a metal detector when the better option that is already used is to wait for the target outside, or to just run in guns blazing? The whole concept of “ghost guns” is the same way. Criminals already are not getting tracked down by serial numbers. Even without the 2A arguments though, this is a stupid thing to put on 3d printers.
3D printed guns do not “get past metal detectors.” This is not nuance. It’s not a matter of techicalities. You just told a bold faced lie, and you did it speficially to try ro fear monger.
Printed guns still require metal springs, metal pins, metal bolts, metal barrels, and metal ammunition.
I don’t think Tetsuya Yamagami used 3d printed parts. This has nothing to do with making things safe.
Printing a gun without a license can be and likely is currently illegal. You can just use traditional manufacturing methods to do the same thing anyways. It’s not rocket science. The issue is the control over people to maybe prevent them from doing what you’re saying. We could install cameras in everyone’s house to make super sure they’re not breaking any laws. I think you now see the problem. More control, more safety, less freedom.
Printing a gun without a license can be and likely is currently illegal*
*Highly dependant on location, in much of the US it is completely legal, you just can’t sell it.
Oh no, don’t. Firmware can’t be flashed /s
smh
There are devices now that have a SoC that’s completely locked down at the factory. It deserves more attention as the massive threat to digital freedom that it is.
There are devices now that have a SoC that’s completely locked down at the factory, although maybe none are 3D printers.
That has been around for decades. I mean one time programmable microcontrollers has been around since at least the 90s, and probably earlier IDK I didn’t start doing embedded development until the 2000s. I guess devices with readout disabled has been around for about as long. I have no idea how much it is used in 3d printers though.
If you just don’t buy something locked down on a hw level, then because of the tinker tradition in 3d printing, you can relatively easy flash the firmware.
It deserves more attention as the massive threat to digital freedom that it is.
Yes, agreed. My point was on the futility of the law. But the fact of the matter is that the law exists and it shouldn’t from a freedom perspective. This is presented as a DRM issue, not a gun control issue. Should we ban printers because you may print a news article without buying the rights? Should we ban pen and paper because you could use it to infringe on a trademark by drawing it?
Good, means less lunatics waving around guns. No objection here.
This is stupid easy to bypass plus you still need metal parts to make it work
Guns are actually really easy to make and can be assembled from parts found at a local hardware store. If you want something fancier you could even mill a gun out of metal
Yeah but a right wing incel maniac trying to get a gun to go blow away a high school isn’t going to know how to mill his own gun. He might download on and use his father’s 3D printer to make one.
guess i should be happy mine predates that shit. although its currently bugged enough to fuck up basic prints available online right now.
Professorozone@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Guess Californians need to grab an old printer real quick and hang on to it.
floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
It won’t just affect Californians. Printer manufacturers will make one model for everyone, and it will comply with this law.
Professorozone@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I friggin hate this authoritarian shit. And California no less. Sounds like some civil disobedience is called for.
Like what if I want to print a play gun for cosplay? Sorry, you live in a free country. Go buy a real one instead. And worse, someone might want to print a shape very similar to a gun but completely unrelated. Nope.