cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/43181347
Clearly you don’t know the Deutsche Bahn
I'll take it to all 2 place it goes!
Submitted 2 days ago by FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works to [deleted]
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darkmogool@feddit.org 1 day ago
jxk@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Luckily the metro in Germany is not operated by Deutsche Bahn
synapse1278@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Where I live, the U-Bahn is by far the most dependable transit. I love it! Nowadays I mostly use the bicycle, plenty of bicycle lanes to go around. It’s nice to have options.
SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
clearly never been in a German train
python@lemmy.world 2 days ago
fuck DB man
eestileib@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Public services need to be publicly owned.
Politicians are corrupt, but business people are corruption embodied.
arrow74@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
As an American living in Germany ❤️ DB
I know it used to be better, and compared to neighboring nations its bad, but I’ve never had access to a better transit system.
Plus I do feel like DB is not given enough credit for its volume of trains. No other country in Europe is running so many trains so frequently. You have several hourly train routes that would be a bus ride every 3 hours in other European nations
franzbroetchen@feddit.org 2 days ago
No, fuck corrupt politicians - our rail network used to be great before it got privatized.
hOrni@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Poland here. We hear You. Not so long ago we used to have delays measured in hours.
f314@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Yeah… Japan might get you used to that kind of precision, but I can’t think of a European country with that punctual trains 😅
Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I’ve been in a German train. Was a while ago, though.
It seemed like the people running both the machine and system actually knew what they were doing and cared about doing it well.
As a latin american this was unfathomable to me and it broke my brain.
SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
the workers may care, the people who decide about the infrastructure however dont.
VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
I know a few people working there. Biggest train nerds I’ve ever met.
Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 day ago
No, that the train being only seconds late is a Japanese thing. In Europe we have anything between “No Train Today” to “Train passed through the station without stopping”
Randelung@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Or Swiss, but certainly nowhere else in Europe.
Redfox8@mander.xyz 1 day ago
Ooh look at that shiny metal track. I wonder if it is ever used. Fable has it that great carriages arrive, and distant rattling and horns can sometimes be heard, but no one knows for sure…
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I lived somewhere with good busses. When the bus drove by without stopping (after dark, an hour before service was supposed to end) I felt like choosing violence
Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I was early to the train station with my coworker. We met a lot of people still waiting for the train before ours on the same platform. Suddenly, that other train was dropped from the display and replaced by our train. Seconds later, their train simply rushed through on a different track.
stumu415@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Chinese train infrastructure is next level. Forget about Japan with their high speed railway and punctuality. For example just Hangzhou East railway station runs 800 trains a day, mostly high-speed trains.
Chinese rail has currently completed testing the CR450 which will be the latest fuxing version to run at operational speed of 400 km/h and will start carrying passengers by the end of year. The next project in development is a maglev running at 600 km/h but is only in prototype for now.
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Didn’t japan have like the first maglev train like 10 years ago?
LwL@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Japan has been building a long distance one for a while now. It got held up in one prefecture because of environmental and political reasons though. Currently running maglevs anywhere are all kinda gimmicky (really no point in going super fast when the distance is very short anyway, waste of money).
stumu415@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Shanghai also has a Maglev since 2001: 25 years ago, from the airport with a topspeed of 430 km/h.
But this new Maglev will be a proper commercial maglev to replace the older generation high-speed trains.
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 1 day ago
fake. i live in a big european city. i routinely miss my train but it doesn’t matter because the next one goes in 5 minutes anyways.
megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
It really depends on the part of the US. Amtrak is very reliable in the north east. Lot of the commuter train services are quite good as well. Subways and metros are pretty good in most of the north east as well.
Amtrak is much more limited in its coverage on the west coast, but still ok from what I’ve heard. BART in the SF area has good ridership although it needs some more investment, LA is doing some big expansions right now as well.
Chicago has a good but a bit old transit system as well. The Amtrak from NYC/DC to Chicago is a long but pleasant ride, about 18 hours; but this is to be expected given that the distance is 1146 Km (714 miles) which is about the same as Brussels to Warsaw, and most of the routes for that appear to be about 18 hours as well.
I’ve heard some rumblings about projects in the Pacific Northwest, but it’s not really something to write home about as it stands. Needs more investment and not to have the projects price gouged by contractors.
Some mid sized cities and towns all over the country will have decent bus services, some even a light rail or two, but it’s a coin toss.
The South West, Mountain west, South East and Midwest (outside of Chicago and the twin citiest) absolutely atrocious, like, you are basically screwed if you don’t own a car. Like there are a few example of decent local transit systems in particularly big cities but their ridership is just not even a drop in the bucket of trips taken by car, and there aren’t any plans for serious expansions on the scale that needs to be happening. Regional rail is just… hope you like a 2 week train ride where you’re spending half the time waiting for 40 mile long trains full of gravel to pass.
CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 2 days ago
This is why I moved to Massachusetts after growing up in the south: the trains here might be old, late, and apparently catch on fire once in a while from what ive heard, but we have trains.
stupe@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
My town doesn’t even have a bus let alone a train.
elgordino@fedia.io 2 days ago
Houston Texas. Population 2.3m. Number of inter city trains a day: 2. One in each direction.
mkwt@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The service only operates 3 days per week. That’s 6 trains per week, total. 3 in each direction.
VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Sounds like something from the wild West.
elgordino@fedia.io 1 day ago
Somehow even worse than i remembered!
Magnus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
UK train travel is abysmal, it’s often trained just get straight up canceled or delayed, I was stuck for 2 hours on a 30 minute journey last week it’s incredibly stupid
ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 day ago
This is wildly overstated. In the period Jan-Mar, 86% of station stops were made within 3min of the timetable, with a cancellation rate of only 3.2% of services.
However, extensive hot weather is playing havoc with everything, rail no exception. Heat affecting equipment, medical emergencies, buckling track, even the ground drying out so much the trackbed is becoming unstable in some places.
testaccount789@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Slovakians: “Our train was less than 2 hours late AND didn’t crash, awesome!”
AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social 1 day ago
Slovakia, are you okay?
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Idk it seems like they could use some training. Things are going off the rails over there.
farmgineer@nord.pub 1 day ago
That’s kinda horrifying. Signal system problems? Other equipment problems? Staff problems?
SalmiakDragon@feddit.nu 1 day ago
I saw an opportunity to share this: Where are America’s trains? by the very excellent edutainment channel Climate Town
luthis@lemmy.nz 1 day ago
Highly recommend, hilarious channel.
zerofk@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Wait wait wait, what happened to the woman at 4:11? Did she survive? Did President Cleveland swoop in to save her? We need to know!
ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 1 day ago
You obviously never been to France.
Mac@mander.xyz 1 day ago
Actual American transit users:
robocall@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Me! I also use the bus, and a bicycle, in addition to the train. Not all at once. I mix it up depending on a variety of factors.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
I was that European transit user years ago. I did buy a BMW because I hated the train system, but crashed it and then bought a Saab. I sold it 3 years ago and bought an electric bike. Only take the train like twice a year or so. When I go to Berlin for a weekend trip or something. But then I’m using DB which is way worse than the trains in my country, so I won’t use trains for a while after that.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Liberals privatised it away
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
They have a big house and 2 cars, why TF would they care about reliable trains. All the stock they own is in BMW and Mercedes.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 day ago
Someome has never been in Italy
tetris11@feddit.uk 1 day ago
TrenItalia is the same as DB. The meme is wrong
lyralycan@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Or London, England
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 day ago
Anywhere in europe pratically XD
linsenchip@piefed.zip 1 day ago
Or germany
makeshift0546@lemmy.today 1 day ago
I like trains and all I want more. But I’m 100% will never not own a car. Far too fun.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Interesting. For me, driving is only ever fun on a wide open, flat, straight road, with beautiful scenery, and where you can get away with speeding because there’s no one else around. Anything short of that and driving ranges from “unpleasant” to “hell on earth”.
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Hey, for some of us, knowing exactly what speed to maintain on a congested roadway in order to never touch the brakes and break the jam behind us is also having fun. Doubly so when the Karen behind you completely loses their shit and starts raging, even though your driving style is actually helping them out. Let’s just hope they’re not strapped…
spicytuna62@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I love driving cars as much as I love wrenching on them. That is to say it’s among my favorite things when I want to, and I want to stick a red hot poker in my eyes when I have to.
farmgineer@nord.pub 1 day ago
I used to think that way. I live in rural Japan now so basically have to have one to do anything useful (especially buying farm stuff). But I lived without one for like 6 years, had I not moved so rural and begun to farm, I probably would still not have one.
robocall@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’d like to hear more about this Japanese rural farm
REDACTED@infosec.pub 1 day ago
Far too fun.
Wait till you get a good mtb ebike. In summers, I don’t feel like using a car.
Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 2 days ago
South American transit user: “there’s a train?”
robocall@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s for tourists only and you can’t ride even if you could afford it
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 day ago
also the american ones are HSR and are very limited to a few regions.
Spezi@feddit.org 2 days ago
That Transrapid is located in china though, not europe. Germany developed it but never followed through and even China only uses it for one line. Would have been better to show a TGV or a Siemens Verlaro to represent EU
Buage_@piefed.social 1 day ago
Not so fast! My trains are very late (I’m in EU)
bema@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Thank you for traveling with deutsche Bahn?
AlteE@programming.dev 1 day ago
Japan…
qynruidaetkuuproon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
On the one hand I’m happy lemmy is gaining traction in the wider culture on the other hand it sucks to see Deutsche Bahn posting their propaganda here.
Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
And I didn’t see anyone pissing or masturbating!
GeekyOnion@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I can guess which seats are soaked with pee, too!
RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
In my experience the MARC is pretty reliable. And mostly empty.
Not that I disagree in general, but funny to me to choose that one specifically.
rofrex@szmer.info 1 day ago
So you didn’t visit e.g Poland lol
Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Orphan crushing machine ass post
AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 2 days ago
Americans IRL: (Standing in the TSA queue at the airport) “Train? What’s that?”
KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 2 days ago
I’ve had to take a train from Boston to NYC and back a few times. Round trip, it costs anywhere from $200 to $500 depending on whether you want to leave / arrive at a reasonable time or not, and it takes about 5 hours, which is slightly longer than driving takes. Incidentally I can fly from BOS to JFK round trip for about $200, assuming reasonably early booking, and the flight is about 1 hour. So this doesn’t surprise me at all.
FunnySalt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Had a similar comment in mind. The cost for a coach seat on a train to the nearest destination city that there’s actually a route to costs about 3x as much as a round trip flight (budget airline) and takes over 24 hours. I would prefer rail were it practical, but it’s not.
No secret that our rail systems suck though. I have taken trains in Europe and Japan, and those experiences were great!
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I’m not disagreeing with you but I think we all need to start including airport hassle time into our statements of flight times. In my limited experience train stations involve less of that bullshit, although obviously you can only go when the train is ready, as opposed to starting your car and hitting the highway. Neither Logan (Boston) nor LaGuardia (New York) is swift or easy, especially if you have any baggage, and there is also the travel time to actually get into the city, which can easily add another hour in traffic. Train stations tend to be in the heart of downtown.
(Tbf, I in Los Angeles live much closer to LAX than to Union Station so ymmv)
Dojan@pawb.social 1 day ago
This happens in Europe too.
A few years back I had to go to my company’s northernmost office. It took about 20 hours of travel, 19 hours of which was on trains, and I didn’t even reach my destination. The train couldn’t get far enough because of the snow, and was replaced with a bus. Only I couldn’t go on it, and so my company shelled out about another $170 for a taxi from one town to the other.
All in all, trip there and back costed ~$500, not counting the taxi.
Meanwhile, looking now, I could take a flight instead. I’d have to take a train or a bus to the airport, that’ll take about two hours of course, but it’ll cost me about $30. The flight will take 1½ hours, and will cost $150 including the trip back. So, about $210 for the entire trip.
adarza@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
flight time is actually closer to 80-90 minutes between the two cities. plus taxi time of 10-20+ minutes at each end… plus dealing with getting to and from the airport, maybe parking, and random tsa shenanigans inside.
compare that to the actual 3.5 hour acela route that starts at ~ $74, that directly connects midtown manhattan to south station or back bay.
OS2Warp@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Trains had their chance after 9/11 and blew it. If they were as cheap as the airlines it would’ve become the way to travel (especially considering no TSA).
Zwiebel@feddit.org 2 days ago
Damn in Germany that would be about 100€ if you book early, 200€ if you want to leave tomorrow at prime time
koella@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Chinatown bus ftw
debris_slide@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It really depends on where your starting and ending destinations are. Also, if you book Acela far enough in advance, which you’re assuming for the flight, it’ll usually be cheaper than flying, especially factoring in the cost of getting to the airport.
A reporter tried this back in 2021 and there was only a five minute difference between train and flying. Trains are also less affected by weather.
Every situation is unique, but I’ve found the train to be the better option on several occasions.
businessinsider.com/timing-myself-taking-the-trai…
stenAanden@feddit.dk 2 days ago
Same story with trains through Sweden. Takes too long and is somehow more expensive.
Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
It can and often is worse for the environment in the US too. Pretty much anywhere outside the NE corridor.
farmgineer@nord.pub 1 day ago
Flying pre-9/11 was a whole different ballgame. Flying domestically in Japan is pretty close, especially at the smaller regional ones. My closest airport doesn’t even fly to Tokyo because everyone just takes the shinkansen (bullet train)
NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Similar to IRL Canadians. If you’re anywhere between Montréal and Windsor then I don’t understand why you’d suffer an airport when the train is just a vastly nicer experience
Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Well it depends on needs too. I tried to explain this before is that if you’re 4 hours away in travel for something that could be done in 1 hour, that’s as important as your mom dying. Are you gonna take the 4hour train or the 1hour plane?