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Finally HR does something right
Submitted 1 day ago by Mickey7@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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Phantaloons@piefed.zip 1 day ago
_stranger_@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I thought they meant the stuff growing behind the fridge.
Phantaloons@piefed.zip 1 day ago
I know what both words mean apart, together? It just doesn’t make sense. Like Microsoft Works.
prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I used to eat at my desk, until I read research that showed you are more productive when you take a real break, time away from the work context, etc. Now I’m in a position to exploit a team of people by making them take a real break, too. Same with vacation, I’ve had to chew people out for checking in on work when they’re meant to be optimizing their brains.
Research also shows that walking breaks, and 7 hour work days help total productivity, so I’m trying to make those happen… But corporate culture is strongly indoctrinated into the “I spent more time on it, there must be more accomplished” cult… Even though what we produce is code. Sigh.
Pacattack57@lemmy.world 1 day ago
For years I had asked people to reach out on my vacation because I thought it would keep things from piling up and give me a less stressful return. This past year they actually were calling me everyday and while it felt cool to feel needed when I came back I did not have the same energy I had when they wouldn’t call. Like I never took the vacation in the first place.
Take real time off people. Those moments of rejuvenation matter.
Zannsolo@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I work through lunch so I can get off earlier, but I also work from home
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 day ago
My boss and I always work through lunch and end up working after-hours.
We got a new, young person right out of college in the office, and my boss and I have been very clear that she is not expected to work extra or skip lunch, and not to use us as examples. And if other employees mention that she doesn’t work as much as we do, we correct them and explain that she’s the one doing things right and not us.
We want the next generation to be better than us when it comes to work-life balance.
mastertigurius@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s good what you’re doing, but I believe that if you want people to do better in work-life balance, the change will have to start with you. If it doesn’t, I’m fairly certain that young people will start to emulate your work habits either out of shame, guilt or a misguided image of what the path to success looks like.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Nobody is gonna see me at work and think “sucess”, lol.
abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Be the team leader you wish you had. Hell yes.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Had a boss with the same attitude. He loved his vacation ski trips and would make us stay “off the clock” and not work when off.
I carry the same attitude, I’ll figure it out of necessary if someone is off unless it’s a true emergency (almost never is).
Chozo@fedia.io 1 day ago
Based new-hire.
BioDriver@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Don’t get it twisted - they only intervened because it would be a bad look if word got out. HR exists to protect the company, not the individual employees
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Well, it exists to smooth over friction between staff in order to maximize profits.
Sometimes that means telling a middle-manager to stfu. Sometimes it means pulling up a bunch of bullshit to justify a firing “with cause”. Sometimes it just means putting down a notice of events in a registry that nobody will ever read, on the off chance it needs to be recalled in an employment lawsuit.
Aneb@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Boy did I learn that the hard way. My hr also was my manager and I discussed too many details of my life during shifts. She moved me to a different store.
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
Does this person know what a break is? Not keeping any momentum going is exactly the point of it. Resting regenerates your mental capacities. A lunch break is not just for calorie intake.
Obnomus@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
New hire knows what he is doing based.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 day ago
“I didn’t tell them they couldn’t eat! I just implied that them not eating at their desk will be punished!”
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 day ago
Is it a paid lunch? I’m willing to do a little work if it makes my life better. Is it unpaid? Not only am I not working, if you interrupt my lunch and cause my food to be one minute less fresh, you are replacing my lunch on your time and expense.
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
I used to do the eat at my desk thing too because I was so overloaded with tasks and I would just eat for 10 min and keep working. It took me far too long to realize I had been allowing myself to be taken advantage of, especially given that my salary was far lower than the market rate. Don’t be past me… take your lunch, it’s yours!
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 day ago
I ate at my desk because I didn’t want to interact with most of my coworkers in the breakroom. I had my PC locked so I was out of contact the whole time though.
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
There were some positive aspects of eating at my desk for sure. Not needing to talk to interact with the large amount of in the cafeteria as well as not losing my parking spot if I left to lunch in the middle of the day were some reasons.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Several months ago my manager wanted us to track our time throughout the day. Part of it was to assist with load balancing where if person A spends 80% of their time doing reports and doesn’t have time for other stuff while person B only does 25% reports then some can be shifted. But the bigger portion was because Person C pretty much did fuck-all all day and played on their phone, but that’s beside the point.
After about 7 months the manager started to phase it out and said we don’t need to. Overall I didn’t mind because it helped me track the day and keep me a little more engaged. But the biggest reason I do it is to better track and manage my true time. If I start the day a little early and don’t take a full 30 minute lunch, you bet your ass I’m slipping out a little early!
Tiral@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Good. I’m tired of these BS jobs that have rules to act like they’re in compliance. Then do the crap where they use peer pressure to have you give it up “voluntarily”.
termaxima@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
One hour ? In France it is customary for lunch break to be TWO hours, and I won’t stand for anything less.
TrippyHippyDan@lemmy.world 1 day ago
In the US, it is extremely common for people to only get a half an hour, and not even a full hour, and it’s usually unpaid.
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Yeah I take half an hour because it’s unpaid. Losing money on the already shit wage they give me
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Where does a break count towards work hours?
Seems completely unlogical to me.
Break is you-time not company-time.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Depends on the woekplace where I am.
I have a full hour, a relative only 45min or somwthing like that.Jankatarch@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You usually get half hour in US and like two 15-minute breaks for throughout the day.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s not really (hasn’t been since the 70s). But you are expected to take an hour, and eating at your desk is typically frowned upon (there are exceptions, we have toxic places too).
Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
I want to see part 2 OP. How could you do this to me?
Mac@mander.xyz 1 day ago
It’s the implication
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 1 day ago
So these workers are in danger?
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 day ago
first year i let my vacation time build up, the company told me not to do it again. guessing they arent real happy with the sudden large cash outlay
Jarix@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’ve been arguing with my HR department for 13 years. How can I accrue vacation each week, use my vacation in the same year I earn it? If my last earned vacation doesn’t stay until the last period expires I December, I can’t use my vacation…
It’s frustrating trying to explain the rules to them and not understand.
Much like that old clip about someone trying to explain their data charges to the ISP customer service rep
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 day ago
my company created the rule that if you didn’t use the year’s accrued vacation, come jan 1 of the following year it went away. no stacking
anon_8675309@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I work from home for past 12 years but prior when I was in the office I would bring in a large thick old navy hoody and a small travel pillow. I would put my headphones on, my hoody over that and lean my head down on the pillow and nap.
It’s my hour.
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I eat at my desk but that’s just because the stuff I bring in for lunch usually has a pretty powerful smell.
sickofit@lemmy.today 1 day ago
I used to lean back, put my feet on the desk and eat my lunch while I read a book for 45 minutes or an hour, my back to the door of my office.
ogy@fedia.io 1 day ago
HR is not your friend. Do not go complain to HR. It will almost always bite you in the ass. They are there to protect the upper management and don't give a fuck about doing the right thing
tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 1 day ago
Depends. I’ve thought of it as a way to document for a lawsuit, especially if they don’t fix a real problem.
Jiggle_Physics@quokk.au 1 day ago
Yeah, if shit is already sideways, HR can end up being a record keeper for you, and they are on the company’s side, so if they said it happened, it is in the best possible light for the company as is, and if that still looks bad… well
Paddzr@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Man, this isn’t always true.
At least not in civilised world… maybe US is such a shithole but HR can do a lot of good when the manager is shit at their job.
Lemmy is basically site wide antiwork subreddit so I’m not surprised.
tmyakal@infosec.pub 1 day ago
I can only speak from my US perspective, but here OP is correct. If you complain to HR, they will say whatever they legally can to placate you in the moment, but they will also start a file and collaborate with your manager to begin building a case for dismissal. In the US, you’re always better off applying for a new job than talking to HR about a problem.
Emptiness@lemmy.world 1 day ago
In northern Europe this is correct. HR is absolutely the employers/Companys/organisations tool. They may be helpful if they see a manager is actually harmful to the employer/company, but that is rarely the case unless the manager has done something actually forbidden and it is documented. As an employee you’re far better off contacting your union representative.
Source: Married to an HR specialist.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Unless said manager is either a friend of the higher up or banged the boss (which is only how they got the job to begin with)
tias@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
They are not your friend but they are also not your manager’s friend. They’re there to protect the corporation, the CEO and the board. If your manager is doing something that can get the company in legal trouble then HR can absolutely shed the manager. Especially if you demonstrate that you’re building a solid case (e.g. documenting each incident while memory is fresh).
fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
Basically you go to HR when you can show them that their interests and yours align against a common enemy, some guy who’s going to get the company Sued if they don’t step in
snoons@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Well, it really depends on how strong your areas labour laws are. HR will protect the company from violating labour laws and being sued/fined and the actualy people might be happy to help you, but in the end you don’t really matter. All they’re doing in protecting the company.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Protecting the company also means shielding it from predatory and abusive managers who generate massive class-action lawsuits, and bad PR.
Godort@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Correct. HR is not your friend and they are there to make sure that the company is not liable for any damages. If you are in the rare position where upper management is not your opponent and whatever shit is happening can float up to them, then HR can be used as a weapon.
CameronDev@programming.dev 1 day ago
Entirely dependant on the company culture. It isnt that simple.
Triumph@fedia.io 1 day ago
The only reason HR would ever protect you is if not protecting you would be more damaging to the company. HR protects the company.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Sometimes they are there to protect upper management from the liability of employing an idiot in lower management.
FenrirIII@lemmy.world 1 day ago
HR recorded my sexism complaint against an old manager. Got me moved to a better team at least
kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 1 day ago
But did your manager face any consequences?
Fmstrat@lemmy.world 1 day ago
HR is not your friend, or your bosses friend. HR doesn’t care about your manager, either. Documentation can be a way to stabilize things when other options won’t work.
abc@suppo.fi 1 day ago
HR is not your friend when you’re the asshole, that’s for sure.