Steam Machine pricing announced (from $1049-$1428 USD), reservation lists open

Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨ampersandrew@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steammachine

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demonsword@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

This item is not available for purchase in your region

I kinda expected that… same thing with the steamdeck, only way to get one is to go through a scalper

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- HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  i mean, do we need to set up a little lemmy dropshipping thing so we can make sure none of us get taken advantage of?
  
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  - echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I’m showing the fullness of time we could set something like that up. Currently they’re limiting it to one device per household so unless you aren’t really interested in getting one yourself that’s not really an option yet.
    
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Abyssian@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
No thanks. It was a bad deal at $700, it’s an awful deal now. Unless you live in such a small area you genuinely need to budget by the cubic inch this was never a great idea.

You’re either paying hundreds of dollars more for a computer with less power because it’s a few inches shorter, or paying the same price for something weaker and less flexible than a laptop.

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LemmyEntertainYou@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’m still tempted at this price. It’s about the same as a similarly specced custom build but will have much lower running costs.

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- FinalRemix@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  You try messing with HDR on the host computer? Could also try changing the codec.
  
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  - LemmyEntertainYou@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Yeah I’ve tried all supported codecs and messed around with HDR too but it’s always the same.
    
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- Rooster326@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Could it be the living room TV?
  
  Most have to be set to an explicit PC mode with game mode turned on.
  
  And what device is the client for sunshine? That is just as important.
  
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  - LemmyEntertainYou@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I don’t think so. It’s a very new flagship Samsung TV and it does put itself into TV mode.
    
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QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Valve can call me when it makes products I can actually afford on a janitor’s salary

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- Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Yeah, I’m on a similar salary. The only reason I could afford my steam deck is because I live in a van. Housing is most people’s biggest expense. Reducing that means I have a bit of disposable income, even a small savings account. But it’s not an ideal situation, and not feasible at all for some people.
  
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Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
This is gonna be a tough price point for the casual and non tech savvy crowd. I figure most of them would go with a PS5 or Switch at that point even if it’s a worse value proposition.

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- shinratdr@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  This is a tough price point for any crowd. The spec of a PS5 at twice the price? Enthusiasts want better specs, and console gamers want a better price.
  
  This is a swing & a miss. The initial order will sell out on speculation and because component prices are garbage so it will have a small run. I’m not so hopeful for future batches unless they can at least match the price of the PS5 Pro.
  
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  - Donjuanme@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Strange, it’s not at all a tough price point for me… Guess I’m not part of the crowd…
    
    My deck has performed brilliantly since the day I bought it, I expect my steam machine to do the same, and if it doesn’t I know exactly who will fix it (I’ve never had to fix my deck)
    
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Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I could build a better desktop for cheaper than this even with the current shit going on. What an absolute disappointment.

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- ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  How recently have you checked? Word I’ve gotten from elsewhere is that this is pretty competitive with what it would cost to build it yourself.
  
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  - Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    How recently have you checked
    
    The moment I read this article. There’s already plenty of other replies with parts lists posted in the crossposted threads, as well.
    
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- Jiral@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  A system with CPU+GPU TDP of 110W at comparable (or better) performance, at this size, at comparable silence under full load? This thing is designed for the living room so these things matter to more than a few.
  
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- graynk@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  with the same footprint and noise characteristics? please do
  
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Datz@szmer.info ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Base price seems fair for a PS5 form factor PC, if you want that (I do). But I was hoping to grab the 2TB model… that’s making me reconsider.

Apparently 2TB hard drives are already pricey anyway, but maybe I’ll try to be careful and uninstall games more, like with the Deck? 512GB is already mostly full with emulation and games I want available on hand though…

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- echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  My current PC has one terabyte drive that’s essentially full, and all it has on there is media and games, the OS loads of different drive, I sort of feel like in this day and age one terabyte is the minimum reasonable size.
  
  Especially considering that this only has one M.2 slot so if you want to upgrade in the future you have to throw away the current drive which is a bit annoying. Might as well just get a higher capacity drive now, not that 2 terabytes really is high capacity.
  
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  - Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    But that’s your PC. GabeCube is more of a console, so you wouldn’t necessarily keep that many media files on it.
    
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Flamekebab@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
That’s unfortunate. Expected, but unfortunate.

I like gaming. That like is not strong enough to extend to that price point.

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placebo@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
That’s not bad at all given the market. If I needed a PC, I’d definitely consider Steam Machine.

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robocall@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Am I the only one that has a computer hooked up to their tv?

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- QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I do as well
  
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garretble@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Welp, really glad I got that PS5 Pro before those went up in price.

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orenj@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Thats about what I figured, but it still hurts to see

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jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
First - THANK YOU for the heads up! I was hoping when I got the dBrand Companion Cube notification just after midnight.

dbrand.com/shop/limited-edition/companion-cube

Second - Anyone notice the controller bundles save you $20 over buying the controller individually? Not so sad my controller reservation is AWOL.

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farmgineer@nord.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Probably not interested for those specs at that price.

In Japan, the page also has a link that goes to some partner of theirs that’s just a maintenance page at 09:38 on a weekday which…. does not inspire confidence.

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- spacegoat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  To be fair that’s normal in Japan.
  
  And if you’re talking about Komodo Station, they’re pretty good
  
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  - farmgineer@nord.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I work in IT in Japan and we’d be in deep shit if that happened at any company I work for.
    
    I don’t think I’ve ever used Komodo station for anything before which is why I clicked to see.
    
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rabber@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
The surprising part is how they lied it can do 4k 60fps. Imagine paying this to get 16fps in cyberpunk on your TV. This is DOA.

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- PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  A PS5 pro is probably more powerful than this right?
  
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  - rabber@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Yes it is
    
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- KingKong33@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  The surprising part is how they lied it can do 4k 60fps.
  
  Was that before or after the AIpocalypse?
  
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  - rabber@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    It was literally advertised as its main selling point
    
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NOT_RICK@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I want the Frame but I just know I cannot justify it regardless of what it actually ends up costing because there is no shot it’s reasonable.

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- voytrekk@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I think the frame won’t be impacted as hard. Most of the costs will come from the VR components, which haven’t really gone up.
  
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  - NOT_RICK@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    It still has 16 gigs of ddr5 ram and a 256gb SSD though. I’m not optimistic.
    
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kandoh@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
And they’ll probably increase the price by next year.

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Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
This is overpriced for the hardware.

Building one is so easy guys, don’t fall for this sort of thing. The GPU is amazingly underpowered.

Build a computer - buy a cheap cpu, a 5700, and 16gb of ram. You’ll be fine with that.

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- CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  This is overpriced for the hardware.
  
  I challenge you to build out a parts list with comparable performance for cheaper. And it needs to be more than a 10% difference. You can’t just show a savings of $50 and claim victory, because there’s a lot you get in convenience and guarantees when you buy hardware from Valve.
  
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  - mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    You forgot the form factor
    
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  - black0ut@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Gamers Nexus released a parts list with better performance for cheaper. And it’s more upgradable than the Steam Machine. And it doesn’t suffer from high temps.
    
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    The sad reality is that this product is not competitive in today’s expensive market. The original leaked price range ($550-$750) would have been competitive, and a price hike to $850 would have been reasonable after the AI hardware price hikes. But Valve is a company that can make use of the economy of scale, and it shouldn’t have developed a PC that has issues and still turns out to be more expensive than a DIY PC with similar specs.
    
    And before anyone mentions it, yes, I wanted this product to succeed. Valve has been bringing a lot of gamers to the Linux world, and that could be good for us. If the price was good, I was even thinking about buying a steam machine myself, because my system is getting old. I’m still hyped for the steam frame, but the steam machine is not it. Not at this price, at least.
    
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  - nullspace@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Fair point. I’m biased to give Valve a pass, but if any other company released a similar product at a similar price point I’d be skewering them.
    
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  - TheOakTree@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Kind of impossible when a company like Valve has hardware purchasing power which means RAM and NVME are bought at a less absurd price.
    
    It’s also worth mentioning that you can’t really upgrade a Steam Machine down the line when it starts to feel underwhelming in a couple years, given its 8GB VRAM/RDNA3 architecture. I wouldn’t say it’s overpriced but I wouldn’t say it offers much value either. It just has quirks (software & formfactor).
    
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  - tomalley8342@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    You can’t really get cheaper for the same performance since with new parts, since you’re already looking at the lowest xx50 tier of gaming GPUs where you’re forced to accept unfortunately low price-to-performance ratios.
    
    If you fix the price to stay the same, a 5600x and a 9060xt 16gb will cost you around the base model’s MSRP and will give you ~60-120% more performance depending on game and performance. I imagine the 120% is when the 8gb VRAM on the steam machine runs out at 4k, lol.
    
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geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
RAM has become expensive but not THAT expensive. It’s only 16GB right?

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- Jiral@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  This isn’t really a mass product like a (subsidised) PS5. Have a look at what a Ryzen Max 385 with 32 GB board costs. RAM is only a part of that SSD is another one (both went through the roof). They aren’t doubling the price but they certainly pushed it beyond 1000 USD/ EUR. They are also probably the reason why much less of the thing will be available than planned. Before the madness started, maybe Valve targeted 700-800 USD or so.
  
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  - MashedTech@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    A valve rep talking to LTT said they can’t disclose the original price but the price increase is similar to the price increase of the steam deck. So from the video they conclude that the target was around 800USD.
    
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  - geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    If it wasn’t going to be mass produced Valve should have just made it with off-the-shelf components and mashed in an HDMI CEC controller over USB or something.
    
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- SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Gamers Nexus did a “DIY spec-equivalent comparison” for off the shelf atx parts, and it wasn’t that much more for this. Like $925 vs $1050.
  
  Also, you do get a little 25$ discount on the controller if you buy the bundle that includes a controller.
  
  But this is like the size of a toaster, custom, stable, and basically silent. It’s not a deal, but it’s not terrible either. If you can get a good deal on used parts, that’ll likely be better. Also, the Steam Machine is pretty low spec for 2026.
  
  So only get this if you really understand what it’s offering. Instead of a must-buy, unfortunately, this is more of a situational or even novelty item. Not terrible, but 100% not something for nothing.
  
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  - makeshift0546@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I’ll take this $850 machine from best buy 🤣
    
    https://share.google/hdkEtFc6NQO3kwJXa
    
    12g vram 3060 And 32gb
    
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- GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  +$200 for the Steam logo.
  
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DupaCycki@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Just like the Deck (after price increase) and the Controller. Great, but absurd at that price. Not necessarily blaming Valve, but the fact remains.

That much money for essentially a small PC with a Ryzen 5 5600 and a mini RTX 3060. Who would buy that? You can just build that yourself, for less than half the price.

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- SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Half the price? Nah, not with new parts. Not even close. GN did a spec equivalent comparison with atx parts and it was like 9xx. Not 1050, but definitely not half the price.
  
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  - DupaCycki@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    True. I was counting used parts, because brand new ones aren’t even available, so their hypothetical prices are meaningless.
    
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- ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Definitely not less than half the price. The build I see linked in this thread comes in around $950 with as close to equivalent specs as possible. The machines people on YouTube were building when the specs were announced, before the RAM and SSD prices spiked, were coming in a little under $700 at the time.
  
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  - DupaCycki@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I just checked my local marketplaces, and it is easily less than half the price. Of course, the parts are second hand, because they’re not even sold new anymore.
    
    Alternatively, you can also build a PC smaller than the Steam Machine, running a Ryzen 7 8700G. It’ll be even cheaper, but also considerably weaker on the GPU side.
    
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someguy3@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Brutal.

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- CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  Money grubbing monopolistic shit bags.
  
  Yes, those money grubbers making probably $50 on each unit. How dare they!
  
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- Soleos@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Sry, what exactly do they have a monopoly on?
  
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arin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
All this development time and they cant get unified memory with DRAM VRAM is kinda underwhelming.

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- grue@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I also would’ve been more interested if the thing had unified (but not soldered) memory, like a cut-down Strix Halo.
  
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_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
oof

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Amaterasu@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I wish they would have licensed it to use with Stream providers. That would replace Nvidia Shield and/or Apple TV devices in a few homes.

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- ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I suspect the DRM those streaming services rely on will start to budge on Linux in the near future, as it gains market share. In the meantime though, I’ve mostly been using Jellyfin lately, which ironically works on Steam Machine but not the other consoles. I’ve still got my PS4 from 10+ years ago for the regular streaming services, when I still have a subscription to any of them.
  
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  - Amaterasu@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I doubt, one of the reasons they kept this on a leash was the incredible amount of third party markets devices that flooded the market pushing malware and trackers. I don’t foresee in a near future the Stream providers flexing more the rules. They will probably keep that close to the small amount of licensed companies and TV manufactures.
    
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- jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  It will probably have a boot to desktop mode like the Steam Deck and then you can run any stream in a browser.
  
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  - Amaterasu@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Unless there is a workaround that I’m not aware this would only limit to stream 720p in most browsers and 1080p in some browsers. We can’t stream for example Netflix at 4k with this method that you described without a license for the device.
    
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_haha_oh_wow_@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
sigh

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BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Yes but when eill we get the frame’s price

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utopiah@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Wondering how it’d benchmark against tuxedocomputers.com/…/TUXEDO-Nano-Pro-Gen14-AMD.t… in an even smaller form factor and similar price range for specs.

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- tburkhol@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  The tux uses the AMD iGPU, where Steam machine has a dedicated GPU, so it’s going to be very different.
  
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  - 87Six@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Very different = not even close
    
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  - utopiah@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Yes, I didn’t try to suggest they were exactly the same. Since I don’t have a benchmark, can you please clarify for example which popular game would be playable with one but not with the other? That would help the rest of us better grasp how very different it will be.
    
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spacegoat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I see that the controller bundled already sold out in Japan.

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- robear@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  It doesn’t help that those of us in Asia are forced to use Valve’s shitty third party distributor Komodo Station. Famous for selling WinRAR licences.
  
  I have no idea what Valve gets out of this. Asian distribution isn’t that complicated anymore especially when Komodo doesn’t even provide customer support.
  
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Kaligalis@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
It’s a hipster PC. Even if there wasn’t the current hardware pricing bubble, you’d still pay the form factor tax.

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- imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  It is just impossible to get anything near this specs at this size with this price. And it hasn’t been like this for a long time. Speaking as an owner of HX99g.
  
  There are minis that are more powerful than Steam Machine, but they would start at $1200-$1500 and go as high as $2500. These machines wont run everything 4k@60 but due to how Valve manages their hardware, Steam Machine very likely will for a while.
  
  As an example, there are better gaming handhelds on the market judging by specs. They do be running games at better settings and fps. But Steam Deck is still is at the top of the list for its price and is still a benchmark in how it should be done.
  
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  - Kaligalis@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    It was always a bit more expensive to insist on arbitrary counter-intuitive requirements like an arbitrarily tiny non-standard form factor.
    
    There really is no actual benefit of that thing being that tiny. Obviously, there is space for a massive TV. That TV isn’t sitting on the floor. Logically there is a lot of space below that TV. Just put a desktop PC there.
    And people actually had office-desktop-PC-sized VCRs in their media racks below their CRT TVs for a long time. There was space for that. And the classic HIFI towers which dominated living rooms two to three decades ago are massive compared to a desktop PC.
    
    Handhelds are obviously a very different thing. It makes sense for them to be Steam-Deck-sized. The form factor actually makes sense for a mobile gaming device. It’s just the stationary mini PCs where the form factor is just the pain without any actual gain.
    
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