tomalley8342
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- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
Fair enough man, I don’t think I could resolve your internal contradictions either.
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
So in your mind, they are charging money for these things, but they do not intend to make money from these things.
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
It’s different, but it doesn’t make one coercion and one not coercion, if, again, going back to the original point, the goal is to get the consumers’ money. Not my goal. The goal of the creator of these works. These works are intended for commercial sale.
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
You are objecting when you are disengaging from these works, are you not? Unless, going back to a previous question, you are the type to disengage with works you are completely satisfied with?
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
If you don’t need to get the consumer’s money, then why would a boycott be a moral failure? You don’t need them.
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
To force (a person) to do something; drive or constrain
You are driven to meet the other party’s demand in both cases, please stay focused. We are talking about selling your work to consumers. The entire goal is to get the consumers’ money.
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
What do you mean burden of proof? It’s the dictionary definition. That I put literally right on top. To be compelled to act.
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
to compel to an act or choice
In both cases, if the person needs what the other person is witholding, he is compelled to meet their demands, no?
Ask direct complete questions
“Even if your boss simply ignores you, the assumption is that there is a reason underneath, no?” and “And if you need what your boss has bad enough to change your behavior, you are coerced into it, no matter if the demand was properly communicated (proposition) or not (ignoring), no?” are complete questions, in fact, they are straight up yes or no questions, the simplest of them all.
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
Which word in the above post are you having trouble with?
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
Even if your boss simply ignores you, the assumption is that there is a reason underneath, no? And if you need what your boss has bad enough to change your behavior, you are coerced into it, no matter if the demand was properly communicated (proposition) or not (ignoring), no?
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
Why is it not coercion when you disengage with a work? Obviously you disengage for a particular reason, and if that reason no longer applicable, you would no longer disengage right? Or do you just randomly disengage with works that you are completely satisfied with?
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
We’re not talking about my expectation, we’re talking about the hypothetical expectation of the boycotting gamers that you yourself brought up a couple of posts ago, and why you would consider them not buying video games a tragedy, while it is not a tragedy if you do not buy a video game.
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
A boycott, by definition is an attempt to punitively coerce others.
Punitively coerce by witholding your sale. The same sale that would have been witheld by your disengagement.
If your employer attempted to coerce you into physical relationship to “earn” a promotion, would that feel different to you than them simply overlooking you for said promotion?
The issue here is that the condition is unrelated to your employment. The end of life plans of the video game is directly relevant to whether you might want to purchase said game or not.
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
In your own words, what is the difference? Does it make a practical difference to the creator whose work is no longer being consumed?
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
I would see it as a moral failing of society to choose ongoing victimization of create workers for their own convenience.
Why? It’s not a failure for a consumer to want what they want. You even said yourself earlier:
If a thing stops being something I want to engage with, I stop engaging.
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
Then, going back to the original post, you would be okay with saying that there isn’t really a “necessity” in the “course correction”, and that if the 3,700,000,000 gamers wanted otherwise, they probably would get it, right?
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
Sorry, it took me for a surprise because I don’t believe I have expressed any preference for a type of video game here. No, I am not insinuating that developers won’t be able to make money if they don’t “comply” with some draconian corporate strategy they loath. Like I said earlier, it’s a hypothetical scenario.
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
I think you responded to the wrong post 😅
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
Yeah I mean I agree with you on the topic of video games in general. It’s cool. But like I said, this original article, movement, etc, is for video games that are sold to customers for money and for profit.
If YOU choose to engage with them commercially then you do so at the creators direction and on their terms.
Yes, and I said that the consumers in general can coerce creators by choosing which works to engage with. Again, If the creator of a for-profit work must (more or less) present their work in a specific way otherwise no-body will buy it, that is coercion and a slight to the creator’s authority, no? (Bolded for emphasis)
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
I appreciate that sentiment, but let’s stay on topic. This and the original article, movement, etc, are for commercial ventures no?
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
Because it establishes that the creator’s authority is not absolute and the consumer has quite a bit of sway in how products are created and commercialized. Unless you are one of such people who believe indirect coercion of the free market doesn’t count as coercion? If the creator (more or less) of a for-profit work must present their work in a specific way otherwise no-body will buy it, that is coercion and a slight to the creator’s authority, no?
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
then the solution is to not consume their art, not demand that they adapt their creative process to accommodate your preferences.
Then (hypothetically, bear with me here), if by the hand of the free market and general consumer sentiment, the only successful video games were the ones that had reasonable end of life plans, and the one that didn’t faded out into irrelevancy, couldn’t get money since nobody bought them, etc, that would be OK by you, right?
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
No, I should have clarified better. I was wondering about your term of the word “necessary” in this sentence.
It is a necessary course correction back to the historical norm of the amphitheater.
What makes you believe that returning to this historical norm is necessary?
SOLE DISCRETION of its creators and their appointed licensors.
It is up to the customer if they want to engage with such works and the terms they are bound by, right? A transaction is a two way street? An EULA is a two way street?
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
Who cares?
The customer I imagine. They are the other side of the equation right?
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
Why is it necessary?
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
I agree it is a lot easier to take his latest video more sympathetically if you haven’t seen his earlier video.
I think it comes off as oppositional instead of being helpful in the way you describe because SKG is already more flexible than he lets on in this new video. I mean he says in the video a couple of times over that this is how “he would do it”, and that “this isn’t the only way”. But that just means that the difficulties and scenarios he brings up isn’t really in the scope of SKG, and that the kind of preservation he wants to see isn’t the kind of preservation that SKG is aiming for. But by presenting these scenarios in the general case, he gives off the indirect impression that the preservation itself is more difficult than it needs to be.
Yes, the game corporations are presenting these more restrictive preservation scenarios because they want to paint this problem as being too difficult to solve, while Chet (I imagine, given his background) is presenting these scenarios because he believes it will be of genuine benefit to the consumer, but but ultimately they are both opponents of the more flexible requests laid out in the SKG movement.
Plus, he (like a lot of Valve employees) are pretty gung ho about the free market working itself out, and mentions that punitive restrictions don’t work and that the game publishers should be partners in the effort and not enemies, so I can’t imagine he would get along well with the lot of the people in the SKG movement just on an ideological basis.
- Comment on Former Valve writer says PlayStation killing physical discs is no conspiracy: "You, the consumer, have made your choice, and the choice is for digital" 1 week ago:
I don’t know why it wouldn’t be a practical conclusion to draw, considering that the points made on that video are basically in line with the points brought up by the video game corporations and trade associations, who as you might have guessed are very firm opponents of the movement.
- Comment on Is Denuvo's Dominance Finally Beginning to Crack? A New Linux-Based Breakthrough Suggests It Might Be 2 weeks ago:
all done in user space, you just have to disable this security feature preventing user space programs from calling these privileged cpu instructions 😅
- Comment on [deleted] 3 weeks ago:
If by installing you mean the data is received ready to play on the computer that you will be playing on, probably not. The rest of the computer will be too slow to receive such a bandwidth even if the Internet service could provide it to you.
- Comment on End of an era? 4 weeks ago:
