How did they get it to pose next to earth for this photo?
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Submitted 1 month ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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Agent641@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Kepler-452b was having a private conversation with Australia when the photographer snuck up and got the candid photo.
Unfortunately Kepler-452b was embarrassed by having the intimate moment interrupted and left in a hurry.
Though their conversation was pleasant, the photographer ruined the mood and numbers were not exchanged.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Yeah, figured it was something like that.
justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Asking the real questions
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 month ago
I know, they’re usually so uncooperative, like posing cats.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Either a classified SCP ot Doctor Who plot.
MoonMelon@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
* slaps sphere *
“You can fit so much Perlin noise on this baby.”
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Because the computer-generated images that symbolize said other planets are generally done with some shitty-shit stupid noise algorithm to generate the surface rather than anything decent, whislt the ones for planet Earth just existing map data for the surface.
As it so happens I’ve been working on a game that has planets, so here’s a example generated with better algorithms:
Venat0r@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I think it’s also that we choose the most photogenic angle for earth, if you pick a random angle of earth it sometimes doesn’t look as good.
e.g. 638
do you have an algorithm for picking a photogenic angle for your game?
grozzle@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
i love the Himalaya doing a creepy smile
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
do you have an algorithm for picking a photogenic angle for your game? Nah, the planets are just shown as 3D objects in the game.
The little icons as the one I linked were made by a special game mode for development which I call the PlanetPhotoStudio that just lets me manually rotate the planet 3D object and take a snapshot, since the planet surfaces is pre-generated using an external program (“Grand Designer”, highly recommended) and only some results are chosen. It’s actually less hassle to do make a “photo studio” and do it manually for each planet like that than to try and come up with an algorithm for “how photogenic a 2D view of a planet looks”.
texture@lemmy.world 1 month ago
looks like a baby elephant
NecroParagon@midwest.social 1 month ago
Good luck with the game! Sounds like it’ll be interesting
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Thanks!
It definitelly looks nice, though the game play is IMHO what makes it fun or not.
luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 month ago
A lot of choices in game making are mainly artistic freedom which at first people with a Science or Engineering background tend to shy away from “because it’s not how things are”.
This is a chorus I like to repeat: Entertainment doesn’t need to be realistic to be fun, and I wish publishers / marketers / reviewers / players would acknowledge that more often and stop slapping the label “realistic” and the like on things that aren’t.
There are sims that are grounded in careful study and attempt to model some part of reality as accurately as possible, but even they need to compromise, both to run on contemporary hardware and to balance it against playability. But they’re often complex, by virtue of modeling a complex reality, and not everyone’s cup of tea.
But then you have things like Assassin’s Creed that regularly and heavily fudge history, not always in a bad way, but convey an impression of past societies that seems accurate, but glosses over things like the Spartan inequality and slavery or Viking brutality, painting a more “noble” and “heroic” picture than they each deserve.
Again, there’s nothing wrong with making up interesting stuff, but people should be honest about it (as you are). Pointing out those artistic choices is an opportunity for learning things. Though the scale of an atmosphere is probably less significant than the scale of Viking slave trade, I still find it curious just how thin it actually is.
grozzle@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Fermi paradox solution: aliens approach from a direction where the first part they see is the Philippines and Indonesia, and just say “nah I’m not learning all those names of islands”, and leave.
CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
They dodged a bullet!
mimavox@piefed.social 1 month ago
Lazy Aliens.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
…because Slartibartfast didn’t hand design them like he did for earth?
not_so_handsome_jack@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
There are not enough fidly-bits on this new planet
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Here, go nuts:
Best freely available, scientifically based planet generator I’ve been able to find.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Supports linux yay :3
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Its also built in Godot and thus thanks to the power of Godot not really having any decompilation protection, is effectively open source, lol.
lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 month ago
Weird. And cool.
RustyNova@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Wow this app stinks. Did it spoil or something?
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Are we landmass shaming now?
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 month ago
We’ve always done that. Everybody knows our hemisphere is prettier and sexier than theirs. We’ve got the hottest hemisphere on the planet, and that includes whether you break it up North/South, or East/West. We own it, baby.
ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org 1 month ago
Am I the only one around here who doesn’t think it looks like shit?
Geoscentific and ecological implications aside, they have a huge ass continent with multiple giant lakes and small peninsulas all around. With a comparable vegetation to earth, this would look amazing in person, I believe.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Yeah, very geo-centric view. It just looks different than literally the only planet humanity has ever known
rumba@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
What I’d actually like to know is how it was chosen. At that distance, we can’t see anything from position and luminosity, and even the luminosity is rough to bake out of other bias. We’re better at telling that there’s a moon. Is this an artists rendition? It is a reasonable calculation due to age and plate tectonics?
I don’t hate it, but if it’s just art for the sake of art, why not go earth-like?
agingelderly@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Well, if Americans settled on that planet, travel would suck to get around. But if a modern country developed it, it would be great - high speed rail all around!
Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Thats how I feel too
RedSnt@feddit.dk 1 month ago
Don’t worry. If us humans showed up on Kepler-452b tomorrow and it had a breathable atmosphere, those lakes would probably be gone in a few hundred years.
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
Yeah. Those astronauts would be super thirsty after that trip
Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
So would the breathable atmosphere.
melfie@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
They’d probably like to come colonize our planet, but with 2x the gravity of Earth, I bet it’s hard to build a rocket that can actually get them into space, much less travel 1800 light years.
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Artists rendering
AppleTea@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Documentaries and science communication in general has always been waaaay too fucking lax on properly disclosing artists’ renderings. Every field suffers from it, but I have to say astrophysics and astronomy are the absolute worst about it.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 month ago
As someone who used mapmaking software for decades I agree they all look randomly generated.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 month ago
They got a lot more land on that planet. The people who live there don’t appreciate what they’ve got like we will, so we deserve it more. Let’s go kill them and take it from them.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 month ago
They seem really peaceful and content just living off the land. This will be so easy.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 month ago
It will be over in ours, and they welcome us as liberators.
SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
So thats where rimworld got the shitty planet generation from. Seriously, I want big contiguous oceans. Not like I can use the vast majority of the planet anyway.
Baggie@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
How dare you shit talk Pangea like that
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Maybe if they make a seafaring DLC (though that is kind of a step back after doing literal space ships).
Unless I’m mistaken, you can really do anything in the water tiles in Rimworld
SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
Yeah, I want it purely for aesthetics. I like generating 100% of the planet, and sending colonies to far-flung places via dev mode instant travel to settle in isolation, so I spend a decent amount of time looking at the world map. It just bothers me when it’s mostly land. It’s ugly, imo, and you get fewer interesting land/climate combos, even with expanded biomes. Also one of my mods adds things washing up on the beach, like organs, so I’m a big fan of ocean-adjacent tiles.
Honestly I haven’t gotten the new DLC, and probably wont, so I don’t really know anything about the space stuff. I have way too much time and energy invested in my collection of mods and don’t have any interest in doing it again (I manage them manually because I don’t use steam, so updating/replacing a thousand mods is a big project)
I’ve been playing whiskerwood on and off, its in early access and runs for shit on my crap windows computer, but it’s all islands and it seems they’ll be adding more to water navigation (last patch I installed added ferries and boat docks, and that was a few months ago). I enjoy that sort of thing too, but I don’t think rimworld really needs it.
Deme@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
I think the point is that they aren’t assuming the planet in question isn’t tectonically activie, as that’s one of the unlikely steps needed for life as we know it.
lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
That’s where they land in Raised By Wolves, right?
CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That show had so much potential as true high sci-fi and it was completely wasted
DirtMcGirt@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That show was legit incredible, and cancelling it was a massive fuckup.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 month ago
high
wasted
Sounds like you enjoyed the show a lot, I’ll look it up, thanks.
someguy3@lemmy.world 1 month ago
1800 light years away.
sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
No but seriously, why DO continents/landmasses on other planets give a sense of unease/uncanny valley (at least to me)? Is it just the lack of familiarity?
Szewek@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
It looks so shit cause they’ve already nuked themselves to planetary death. And because of climate change and rising sea level. Also ecosystem degradation and subsequent soil erosion. I’ve heard you need to prevent these to keep Earth beautiful. Just for the aesthetics. Think about the astronauts, what if they had to look at an ugly Earth?
Draconic_NEO@mander.xyz 1 month ago
Because one of them (Earth) is based on reality, and the other is a poorly done conceptual render because no human actually knows the shape of the landmasses on that planet on account of having never been there.
kablez@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Since it’s just perlin noise anyway… They should use gag landmasses for fun. See if anyone recognises Middle Earth or the Seven Kingdoms.
Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Another earth, but it is all australia
thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Bro that’s a PRIME sailing planet if I’ve ever seen on.
Earths oceans shores are largely extremely boring linear beaches. Especially along the Atlantic.
This plant would be prime for small cheap hobby costal sailing
libre_warrior@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
We cant get a new planet if we cant take care of the one we got.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I wonder if it has plate tectonics. A big part of why our continents look like this is them. That said, yeah that’s a lot of mid continent seas/great lakes
Gates9@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Anybody by chance know if there’s a Kepler-452b map for Civ V?
inari@piefed.zip 1 month ago
Kinda looks like Eurasia but with more holes
redbrick@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Will housing be cheaper there? Will taxes be lower? Will Trump be there? What about groceries?
copandballtorture@hexbear.net 1 month ago
Dibs
Bazell@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
It also bigger, what means stronger gravity. And stronger creatures.
Eiri@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
There’s no way in hell we have the resolution to see continents in another star system.
REDACTED@infosec.pub 1 month ago
These are always illustrations based on whatever data we could gather. We almost never “see” the planets themselves.
themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Considering we only know it’s there because it slightly dims the light from its star as it crosses during its orbit, you would be correct. At that distance, we would never see light bouncing off the actual planet. Even the star is basically a single pixel. We can estimate its size and orbit based on how quickly it crosses in front of the star and how much the light dims, and using those two numbers we can estimate its distance from Kepler 452.
PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I thought they could also see atmospheric composition as it passes in front of the star, no? Having that info and the data you’ve just mentioned they postulate if it’s habitable or not. Obviously not seeing any detail at all about land mass shapes, but perhaps composition? I’m not a spaceologist, so I’m only musing.
wraekscadu@vargar.org 1 month ago
We can build a telescope to see this by the way. The lens being the gravitational warping of spacetime by the sun. We go waaaay past the orbit of Pluto (I forgot the exact distance) and send probes there. We can have quite nice pictures of planets up to pretty nice distances.
saltesc@lemmy.world 1 month ago
lol. All those flyby probes we’ve sent to other planets in the system and we could’ve just pointed our interstellar telescope instead and looked for puddles.
Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 1 month ago
Soon, though, using gravitational lensing of the sun. Sometime around 2035 maybe.
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
You know that picture we have of the milky way?
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It’s called Project Hail Mary you ding dong! We sent someone there in a last ditch effort to save the Earth!